NoNecksCurse
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- Oct 19, 2011
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Even when the team starts like 2010-11, people want Trotz gone. The fire Trotz threads don't even wait for the season to start.
if the team wins 1 more game this month, what do you do?
Even when the team starts like 2010-11, people want Trotz gone. The fire Trotz threads don't even wait for the season to start.
Until you remember Suter never moves anyone from out in front of the goalie, consistantly gets beat and manhandled down low, in the corners or on the boards or pound your head when another of his "shots" get blocked easily.im not saying we had a choice obviously... but if we did, $uter just may be who i choose. weber isn't worth his money
Until you remember Suter never moves anyone from out in front of the goalie, consistantly gets beat and manhandled down low, in the corners or on the boards or pound your head when another of his "shots" get blocked easily.
if the team wins 1 more game this month, what do you do?
Trotz is gone if the team goes 2-11-0 for October. If the team is 2-3-8, who the hell knows what happens.
The same questions apply to the Rangers right now as well ... what happens to the new guy if they are 2-10-0 for October?
he gone...
just hard to see trotz gone... talk is one thing... we are getting way ahead right now. we start slow but its no excuse. a good effort and win saturday will quiet the noise till tuesday
In 4 games with the icetime he's getting he has 1 assist and he's getting killed at the dots. Also he's not that good defensively.
War, the flip side to that limited data argument is if the slow starts continually happen is that an issue even if we finish strong? How about starting strong and being ready to play from day 1 and playing strong all season long.
I think expectations need to be raised around here. We have owners that are above obviously willing to spend money so with that comes the expectation of winning games with the roster they're paying for. If Trotz and Poile felt the new signings were guys that would help this team achieve wins and they don't then the owners will have two choices, let it ride and see if the team develop or replace the coach and/or GM. If I'm an owner coming off last season and then dropping serious cash on free agents I want to see results. These guys are businessmen and results and money are the bottom line. We will see how this plays out and to be honest if they were just skating around with no purpose I'd be worried but the guys are buying in to what Trotz is selling.
Just to give people an idea, here's what our lines look like based on even-strength ice time:
13:24-13:59-12:14
12:10-11:58-12:09
12:03-11:20-11:31
11:07-10:55-9:43
Nystrom-Fisher-Forsberg
Spaling-Cullen-Smith
Wilson-Gaustad-Hornqvist
Bourque-Legwand-Hendricks
Clune clocks in at 7:43.
There will be no debate from me that Fisher has been our best all-around forward, but the rest of this is completely out of whack. The players who are expected to produce big offense for us aren't getting the ice time they need to produce that offense. It seems like we're trying to focus more on match-ups than putting our best players on the ice, and it isn't working.
Cullen has tried alot of backhand passes from behind the opponent's goal alot. You'd have to put a guy like Hornqvist on his line to put some of those in.
Speaking of those passes, it's really funny how much guys like Smith and Wilson are called out for turnovers, but where is the callout for Cullen's? Those have lead to turnovers and lead to one of the Islanders' goals on Saturday. I don't have a problem with it per say, as thats what you want your offensive guy's doing, but its another double standard when you look at the younger guys.
No truer words have ever been spoken. Our system limits those risk but also limits scoring chances., but sometimes you gotta risk it......
Cullen has tried alot of backhand passes from behind the opponent's goal alot. You'd have to put a guy like Hornqvist on his line to put some of those in.
Speaking of those passes, it's really funny how much guys like Smith and Wilson are called out for turnovers, but where is the callout for Cullen's? Those have lead to turnovers and lead to one of the Islanders' goals on Saturday. I don't have a problem with it per say, as thats what you want your offensive guy's doing, but its another double standard when you look at the younger guys.
Not only are we simply rolling four lines at this point. We are playing the grinders more than our offensive players. It's .... Baffling.
The grinder line is cycling better and generating more chances than our alleged 2nd and 3rd lines. Gaustad and Hendricks with as many shots as Legwand and more shots per game than Forsberg, Bourque, or Spaling.
So you are inferring that Gaustad and Hendricks should continue to get more ice time than our scoring forwards?
Hendricks had more TOI than Hornqvist, Wilson, Stalberg, Forsberg, Bourque, and Cullen.
He had 4 less seconds than Legwand. This is mind-numbingly against the grain.
Nystrom lead our forwards in TOI by over 2 minutes. Asinine.