Former Senators and how you perceived them

[Big Papi]

Trying words bud...

3 games is hardly a career defining series. If that is your measure of Jason Spezza's merits as a playoff performer, your thoughts could clean boots!

Sure Spezza CO-led the playoffs with scoring in 2007 but I attribute that to the team as a whole rather than just Jason Spezza.
He never even came close to the Smythe that year, or even the Smythe on our team on that run!
Yes he played quite well, but Spezza never carried the team entirely on his back EVER. He would show up in a series, get a point a game, then let the team just walk out.

Spezza never walked out on the team, infact, the exact opposite. case in point comeing back when clearly his back was still bugging him in 2012-13...

 

[jason9090spezza]

Trying words bud...

3 games is hardly a career defining series. If that is your measure of Jason Spezza's merits as a playoff performer, your thoughts could clean boots!

Sure Spezza CO-led the playoffs with scoring in 2007 but I attribute that to the team as a whole rather than just Jason Spezza.
He never even came close to the Smythe that year, or even the Smythe on our team on that run!
Yes he played quite well, but Spezza never carried the team entirely on his back EVER. He would show up in a series, get a point a game, then let the team just walk out.

Spezza was easily top 3 options for the Smythe from the Senators. Alfie was the best (no question), but Heatley and Spezza really pushed that 07 team hardcore.

And I find your comment kind of one-sided (maybe I shouldn't be the one talking but lol). He was definitely one of the better players in the playoffs when it comes to generating offense.

 

[Rumcajs]

Most points in the playoffs is pretty good...You can't knock a guy cause he played on a sound team, largely due to his ability to set up those who played with him (i.e. Alfie, Heatley, Michalek, Greening, etc)...how many players had career years playing with Spezza?

I didn't mean to knock him, he had three great series that took us close to the grail. But if you look at the pecking order for Smythe in that series, Spezza is maybe 5-6 on the list including ANH.

If that is a career defining series to some fine, but I am referring to a Williams series, Toews series, Zetterberg series, Doughty series etc.

Maybe a simple translation to my meaning is "He never took us to a series that we didn't belong to be in at the expense of his own skill and effort". And don't confuse failure to do so as a failure of effort. He always tried but couldn't do it, many can't, that is why the game is tough but the simple answer that he never did and I will still wear my Spezza jersey proudly.

 

[Vipers31]

So, I hope this is a somewhat fitting thread to bump, as I'm looking for opinions on a former Senator...

My local team in the German top league is alledegly making Cory Clouston headcoach. I know, it has been a while, and wasn't exactly a memorable time success-wise, but can anyone give me a few hints on what to expect from him, or just a general impression of his from those days? Thanks in advance.

 

[Ralph Malfredsson]

Bob Kudelski - the first lesson I ever learned in the "bad players on bad teams sometimes look better than they actually are" category. Looked like we got a premium goal scoring winger out of nowhere, I thought as a kid that he would be our own version of Roenick, and then we traded him to Florida and he... completely dissappeared. Like, gone. I was SO ANGRY that we gave him up and got such an awful return for him, but apparently, 14 year old BonkTastic had lessons to learn still.

I had the same epiphany (at the same age) with Kudelski. I thought we found a diamond in the rough and was disenchanted with the trade.

 

[Vesa Awesaka]

So, I hope this is a somewhat fitting thread to bump, as I'm looking for opinions on a former Senator...

My local team in the German top league is alledegly making Cory Clouston headcoach. I know, it has been a while, and wasn't exactly a memorable time success-wise, but can anyone give me a few hints on what to expect from him, or just a general impression of his from those days? Thanks in advance.

Drill sergeant who lacks people skills. Wears out players both physical and mentally. Players have allegedly thrown parties after clouston has been fired. He was a decent coach at getting results initially and probably would have gotten more wins if it wasnt for bad goaltending.

 

[Cat Dad Sixty Nine]

I miss the endless cycling of the puck that led to nothing.

 

[Caeldan]

Joe Corvo - 'defenseman' who really really wished he was actually playing wing.
Saprykin - one of my favourite 4th liners we ever had.
Dean McAmmond - the other energy forward who made things happen when it counted, who unfortunately had his career cut shorter by a combination of Pronger's playoff elbow and Downie's pre-season rocket jump

 

[Ralph Malfredsson]

Steve Duchesne: dat goal

 

[chipsens]

I enjoyed watching Andre Benoit playing tonight for Blues...he seemed solid enough. I always wondered why Sens let him walk to Colorado

 

[Pierre from Orleans]

Dont see Fisher as an Alfie lite at all. Like at all. He had mediocre play making abilities and never really slowed the game down like Alfie did.

Maybe off the ice there are comparables but not on it

 

[BonkTastic]

I enjoyed watching Andre Benoit playing tonight for Blues...he seemed solid enough. I always wondered why Sens let him walk to Colorado

The Avs offered him more money than we did, plus a guaranteed one-way contract.

 

[Xspyrit]

During most of their time how did you perceive these players. Comment based on skill set, two way play, atheltic ability ect ect.


Volchenkov- Great defensive defensemen. ok skater, big hit thrower and SHOT BLOCKING

Fisher- Alfredsson with less skill. Like alfredsson he would hit the ice at times and lay everything on the line to try to change momentum. Ok two way player with decnt skill. When i think of fisher i think of a hard slap shot right into the chest of a goalie.

Redden- two way defensemen at it finest. Not the best puck mover and not the best defender but still good at both

Heatley- one timer off spezza pass. Didnt play up to his physical potential. His skating wasnt his best attribute but his shot was deadly accurate. His hands werent special. I remember he was never used in the shootout because he couldnt deke well.

Campoli- low end pmd good skater

il list a few other later...

Quoting an old post but Redden actually had the best first pass in hockey for a while...

 

[Vesa Awesaka]

Quoting an old post but Redden actually had the best first pass in hockey for a while...

I became a sens fans the year before the SCF. I saw him during his decline as a senator i suppose

 

[Xspyrit]

I became a sens fans the year before the SCF. I saw him during his decline as a senator i suppose

Yeah he really started to decline at around that time and by 2008, he was a shadow of himself.

In reality, Redden was never the same after his mother died, I think it was April 2006

I can testify that it's hard thing to do, recover from such a loss, and at any age.

 

[SensMonkey19]

Phillips - useless pointing

Heatley - All Star

 

[KarlssonMarx]

A few players that I barely remember because I was really young when they were on the Sens, but here's what I remember

Shawn Van Allen: The ORIGINAL #22. Kelly and Condra were always living in his shadow.

Shawn McEachern: really fast, good goal scorer. Maybe our best forward for a few seasons. Don't remember much about him but he seemed cool.

Jason York: pretty good two-way dman. He didn't do anything to stand out, but he was really solid all-around. I believe he wore an 'A' for us at one point?

Lance Pitlick: Huge slap shot and perpetually broken nose

Magnus Arvedson: THE MACHINE. Worked so hard every night, until his body broke down from it.

Andreas Dackell: I'll always remember him for the time Eric Lindros nailed him from behind with the dirtiest, jumping hit. Dackell went off on a stretcher and his face looked very messed up. It was pretty horrifying.

Denis Lambert: The dancing bear. Literally just a caveman that they put on skates and told to fight.

 

[dumbdick]

Just off the top of my head, here are the one's that come to mind.

Vyacheslav Butsayev - Enigmatic
Nikita Filatov - Enigmatic
Dmitri Filimonov - Enigmatic
Sergei Gonchar - Enigmatic
Alexei Kaigorodov - Enigmatic
Alexei Kovalev - Enigmatic
Igor Kravchuk - Enigmatic
Alexander Nikulin - Enigmatic
Oleg Saprykin - Enigmatic
Petr Schastlivy - Enigmatic
Anton Volchenkov - Enigmatic
Alexei Yashin - Enigmatic
Ilya Zubov - Enigmatic

 

[HispanicAtTheDisco]

Just off the top of my head, here are the one's that come to mind.

Vyacheslav Butsayev - Enigmatic
Nikita Filatov - Enigmatic
Dmitri Filimonov - Enigmatic
Sergei Gonchar - Enigmatic
Alexei Kaigorodov - Enigmatic
Alexei Kovalev - Enigmatic
Igor Kravchuk - Enigmatic
Alexander Nikulin - Enigmatic
Oleg Saprykin - Enigmatic
Petr Schastlivy - Enigmatic
Anton Volchenkov - Enigmatic
Alexei Yashin - Enigmatic
Ilya Zubov - Enigmatic

I think there may be a bit of a pattern here...

 

[Babych Moustache]

Daigle - I remember who went #2... and #4 for that matter, Alex.

 

[Bileur]

Daigle - I remember who went #2... and #4 for that matter, Alex.

Paul Kariya looked the same at 18 as he did at 36.