OT: Former Pred Talk

[Soundgarden]

Sam Girard and the 2nd couldve been much better spent. He didnt really hit injury issues until after his ELC was up so wouldve had time to build trade value and flip him for something that wasnt a longterm 2M per year buyout

Girard would never have played a minute over Josi and Ekholm and at the time Turris was 2nd center for a team that made the Eastern finals. Sucks that it turned out the way it did, but I've got no hate for that deal.

 

[herzausstein]

Girard would never have played a minute over Josi and Ekholm and at the time Turris was 2nd center for a team that made the Eastern finals. Sucks that it turned out the way it did, but I've got no hate for that deal.

Nah i understand in its context.

We cant draft and develop centers making Turris a necessity
We got a surplus on defense making Girard expendable

Just disagree that none of what we sent were a big loss. Girard is the best dman we have drafted in a several years.

 

[Armourboy]

Nah i understand in its context.

We cant draft and develop centers making Turris a necessity
We got a surplus on defense making Girard expendable

Just disagree that none of what we sent were a big loss. Girard is the best dman we have drafted in a several years.

Which says something cause Girard ain't that great.

 

[Soundgarden]

Nah i understand in its context.

We cant draft and develop centers making Turris a necessity
We got a surplus on defense making Girard expendable

Just disagree that none of what we sent were a big loss. Girard is the best dman we have drafted in a several years.

I don't think we would have gotten much more for Girard than what we did, we traded him at the right time.

 

[triggrman]

Which says something cause Girard ain't that great.

Seth Jones was that same year.

 

[Armourboy]

Seth Jones was that same year.

Yeah and I wouldn't really call him anything super either. He certainly didn't turn into what a lot of people thought he would be and would have been behind Josi and Ekholm his entire career here.

 

[triggrman]

Yeah and I wouldn't really call him anything super either. He certainly didn't turn into what a lot of people thought he would be and would have been behind Josi and Ekholm his entire career here.

But better than Girard. Plus he’s getting bank

 

[Armourboy]

But better than Girard. Plus he’s getting bank

No doubt on that. Girard is way overrated around here. If I remember correctly he barely even played in their cup run.

 

[Predsanddead24]

No doubt on that. Girard is way overrated around here. If I remember correctly he barely even played in their cup run.

Wasn’t that when he got hurt? Either way I agree Girard is nothing special. He came out super strongly and then just never really seemed to improve much. I personally prefer Carrier over him and I’m not even a huge Carrier fan.

 

[PredsV82]

Jones was at one point an All Star 1D. Crapping on him now because of his contract isn't really fair. He's still a lower echelon top pair Dman.

 

[triggrman]

Jones was at one point an All Star 1D. Crapping on him now because of his contract isn't really fair. He's still a lower echelon top pair Dman.

He did what he needed to do to cash in

 

[herzausstein]

No doubt on that. Girard is way overrated around here. If I remember correctly he barely even played in their cup run.

2nd pairing minutes until he got injured is an odd way of barely playing. Even this playoffs he was 3rd in TOI for their dmen getting 23 mins a game. We may think he is overrated but Colorado trust him on the ice. Due to his injury history, id rather pay Carrier than him but that doesnt make Carrier the better player when healthy

 

[Armourboy]

2nd pairing minutes until he got injured is an odd way of barely playing. Even this playoffs he was 3rd in TOI for their dmen getting 23 mins a game. We may think he is overrated but Colorado trust him on the ice. Due to his injury history, id rather pay Carrier than him but that doesnt make Carrier the better player when healthy

Yeah but my point is he got injured and no one even noticed. Heck I remember Colorado fans being happy he wasn't playing.

 

[King Weber]

NHL veteran, former Nashville Predators captain Greg Johnson diagnosed with CTE

NHL veteran, former Nashville Predators captain Greg Johnson diagnosed with CTE | Concussion Legacy Foundation

concussionfoundation.org

 

[hockey diva]

NHL veteran, former Nashville Predators captain Greg Johnson diagnosed with CTE

NHL veteran, former Nashville Predators captain Greg Johnson diagnosed with CTE | Concussion Legacy Foundation

concussionfoundation.org

So sad.

 

[hido]

If you have an NYT/Athletic subscription, brutal Shea Weber content. Guy's body is completely wrecked. Very sad.

 

[Predsanddead24]

If you have an NYT/Athletic subscription, brutal Shea Weber content. Guy's body is completely wrecked. Very sad.

It's just insane what these guys decide to play through. From the article:

"The sequence of events is important to remember here. During the opening game of the 2017-18 season, Weber took a Jack Eichel slap shot off the top of his left foot. It broke his foot near his ankle, a very sensitive spot. He continued playing regardless because, as he said at the time, he had played through foot fractures before. Playing on the foot resulted in significant tendon damage in his ankle, and it ultimately needed a very rare and delicate surgery."

The worst part is the Canadiens went 29-40-13 that year so he destroyed his ankle to contribute to a losing season. I really do think the play through injury mindset does more harm than good. I totally get it when you're deep in a playoff run but if he'd just decided to take a couple months off after the foot fracture he'd likely have avoided the chronic ankle injury.

 

[Scoresberg]

Where's Lankinen going by the way?

 

[PredsV82]

Where's Lankinen going by the way?

Hasn't signed anywhere yet unless he did today

 

[herzausstein]

It's just insane what these guys decide to play through. From the article:

"The sequence of events is important to remember here. During the opening game of the 2017-18 season, Weber took a Jack Eichel slap shot off the top of his left foot. It broke his foot near his ankle, a very sensitive spot. He continued playing regardless because, as he said at the time, he had played through foot fractures before. Playing on the foot resulted in significant tendon damage in his ankle, and it ultimately needed a very rare and delicate surgery."

The worst part is the Canadiens went 29-40-13 that year so he destroyed his ankle to contribute to a losing season. I really do think the play through injury mindset does more harm than good. I totally get it when you're deep in a playoff run but if he'd just decided to take a couple months off after the foot fracture he'd likely have avoided the chronic ankle injury.

Agreed. Some guys have absolutely destroyed their bodies. It isnt just their professional careers either. Itll limit them for the rest of their lives and make life painful doing basic family things like playing a softball game. At some point, the NHL and players need to recalibrate themselves on what is important

 

[Armourboy]

It's just insane what these guys decide to play through. From the article:

"The sequence of events is important to remember here. During the opening game of the 2017-18 season, Weber took a Jack Eichel slap shot off the top of his left foot. It broke his foot near his ankle, a very sensitive spot. He continued playing regardless because, as he said at the time, he had played through foot fractures before. Playing on the foot resulted in significant tendon damage in his ankle, and it ultimately needed a very rare and delicate surgery."

The worst part is the Canadiens went 29-40-13 that year so he destroyed his ankle to contribute to a losing season. I really do think the play through injury mindset does more harm than good. I totally get it when you're deep in a playoff run but if he'd just decided to take a couple months off after the foot fracture he'd likely have avoided the chronic ankle injury.

If that had been the playoffs I might could see it, but for the first game of the season if I'm the team I'm not even giving him the option. Frankly I put that on Montreal management as much as I do the player. Someone should be trying to save the player from themselves at some point.

 

[PredsV82]

Probably wouldn't have made a difference but I'm sure he wishes he had been fully healthy the year the Habs made the SC finals during COVID.

 

[Armourboy]

Probably wouldn't have made a difference but I'm sure he wishes he had been fully healthy the year the Habs made the SC finals during COVID.

Oh I'm sure he is looking back at it now and regretting it. Not only would he have been in better shape for that, he probably plays a couple of more years as well. I kind of think he would have still ended up on LTIR eventually but he might have gotten another year or two out of it if he wanted.