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Former OHL player Eric Guest speaks out about the abuse he endured

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Every person gets to decide what trauma is for themselves. It can mean a lot of different things to a lot of different people. This young man obviously had a painful experience and I'm glad he feels able to talk about it. I'm sure there's many people who can relate.

That being said I'm not sure a white boy being pressured to use drugs is #1 on the social injustice docket at the moment.
 
Well I guess we will see if this person ever decided to go out and party on his own with others his story will backfire badly

Or it could easily be blamed on his 20 year old teammate getting a 16 year old addicted to coke.

So he did a line of blow and thats it?

A 20 year old player, probably Bracco, who's now signed with an NHL team, probably the Leafs, forced two 16 year olds to do cocaine against their will and detained them in a bathroom until they did it.

Oh what a poor guy. Everyone else lives through their lives with no issues ever.

Everybody has issues, some are more serious than others. Detaining underage kids and forcing them to take addictive and illegal substances is pretty high on the list of messed up things you could do, especially since the player doing it was 20.
 
Was this a bad situation resulting from peer pressure and messed up power dynamics? Sure. Was the guy who "made" him do coke a dirt bag? Yes. Is this some serious tragedy involving a vulnerable teen who was preyed upon and who's life is now in shambles? No.

Chad's upset cause his big bro "made" him try drugs at a party...boo-f***ing-hoo. This kid is not a victim of abuse, calling him such is a disservice to real victims. It's not like the older kid mixed gun powder with the coke then turned him into a child soldier to help cleanse Tutsis.

1) the existence of greater suffering does not eliminate or negate what someone has been through.
2) A random person thinking they get to decide what is or isn’t abuse seems way more harmful. People go through shit that they struggle to get off their chest- and if they think discussing that will help themselves and potentially others, having someone say “psh that isn’t abuse” is not in any way helpful.
 
The responses in this thread are the reason that players don't speak out.

Good job on supporting mental health and change.......


You have to admit with his over the top "sorry this is really hard to talk about" and his "I was at a party and they were making me drink"
It seems like a gag parody type thing no?
 
You have to admit with his over the top "sorry this is really hard to talk about" and his "I was at a party and they were making me drink"
It seems like a gag parody type thing no?

No, because its probably really hard for him to talk about. Especially because of people like you who don't take player's accusations seriously.

For the record, making him drink isn't giving him his first beer and telling him they'll look after him. Its forcing rookies to keep drinking until they pass out in their own vomit. Its hazing and its disgusting.
 
Awesome. More people to cancel. I use to hate cancel culture but over time I grew to accept it and now really enjoy it. It's a really good hobby and serves a good purpose.

#JeremyBraccoisoverparty
 
No, because its probably really hard for him to talk about. Especially because of people like you who don't take player's accusations seriously.

For the record, making him drink isn't giving him his first beer and telling him they'll look after him. Its forcing rookies to keep drinking until they pass out in their own vomit. Its hazing and its disgusting.

I just don't see this as something that would be hard to talk about, and as far as abuse goes? There are people in this world that have hard lives and bad things happen. if you think this guy has had a bad hand in life and is some sort of victim that needs support go right ahead support away. This is what would be called "uptown" or firstworld problems.
And you just made up what drinking is in your head on your own and called it disgusting, I don't think thats rational
 
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I just don't see this as something that would be hard to talk about, and as far as abuse goes? There are people in this world that have hard lives and bad things happen. if you think this guy has had a bad hand in life and is some sort of victim that needs support go right ahead support away. This is what would be called "uptown" or firstworld problems.
And you just made up what drinking is in your head on your own and called it disgusting, I don't think thats rational

Just because others have it just as bad or worse doesn't mean he wasn't abused. Just because you wouldn't find hazing hard to talk about doesn't mean others won't. Try caring for other people for a change, no wonder people don't talk about abuse when this is the reactions they get.

I didn't make up the definition, he was hazed, I know people who have been hazed the same way in youth hockey and in post secondary. Hazing is messed up. He doesn't have to lay it all out, what he meant is clear to people who have endured or are familiar with hazing.
 
Awesome. More people to cancel. I use to hate cancel culture but over time I grew to accept it and now really enjoy it. It's a really good hobby and serves a good purpose.

#JeremyBraccoisoverparty

I mean... is it really controversial to not want to support players who forced highly addictive and illegal substances on kids as an adult?
 
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I mean... is it really controversial to not want to support players who forced highly addictive and illegal substances on kids as an adult?

It is when no player was named and the story is no proven to be true.
But cancel culture feeds the ego and makes being the bully cool so it's the best thing ever, truth and or proof means nothing as long as the do gooders can exert power over others.
 
It is when no player was named and the story is no proven to be true.
But cancel culture feeds the ego and makes being the bully cool so it's the best thing ever, truth and or proof means nothing as long as the do gooders can exert power over others.

I genuinely can't imagine what must go on in your head when you hear about a 16 year old getting abused by an adult in a position of power and think the people who support him are the bullies.

Since you're so concerned with people exerting power over others it must really bother you how this poor kid got abused by an adult.
 
I genuinely can't imagine what must go on in your head when you hear about a 16 year old getting abused by an adult in a position of power and think the people who support him are the bullies.

Since you're so concerned with people exerting power over others it must really bother you how this poor kid got abused by an adult.

I can't imagine what goes through yours where you think you have the power to be judge jury and executioner and your brain thinks the things that one person you don't know said are 100% true.
 
Hazing is apart of hockey (and many other sports) .... there are arseholes in this world who take it way too far but there is a reason the vast majority of players have not spoken out about it. Hockey is a tough sport, hazing is all about earning your stripes and proving to the guys you battle with that you will be able to withstand the pain that comes with playing the game.
 
Hazing is apart of hockey (and many other sports) .... there are arseholes in this world who take it way too far but there is a reason the vast majority of players have not spoken out about it. Hockey is a tough sport, hazing is all about earning your stripes and proving to the guys you battle with that you will be able to withstand the pain that comes with playing the game.
Hazing like making rookies wear a pink backpack to the bullpen is a harmless way to joke around with the younger guys.

Making guys do cocaine and/or physically/mentally abusing them is not harmless at all.
 
Hazing is apart of hockey (and many other sports) .... there are arseholes in this world who take it way too far but there is a reason the vast majority of players have not spoken out about it. Hockey is a tough sport, hazing is all about earning your stripes and proving to the guys you battle with that you will be able to withstand the pain that comes with playing the game.

Whether the hazing is done by 'arseholes' or not, the fact that the power dynamic in junior hockey perpetuates the young players to feel powerless is not okay.
 
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I genuinely can't imagine what must go on in your head when you hear about a 16 year old getting abused by an adult in a position of power and think the people who support him are the bullies.

Since you're so concerned with people exerting power over others it must really bother you how this poor kid got abused by an adult.

He didn't say people who support Guest are bullies. He said the people condemning Bracco are bullies.

I think you misread him. He said it's not right to condemn Bracco, and that's fine. We don't know if Bracco was involved at all. Someone merely suggested it based on fact the fact that Guest doesn't follow him on Twitter.
 
The only way to ascertain a kid is tough enough to go to battle with on the ice to earn those stripes to prove to the beautiful boys he's in the trenches with, is to lock him in the bathroom and force him to do cocaine.
 
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