Proposal: For Blackhawks fans: Debrincat for NJD 1st rounder.

[COHawk]

NJ odds are currently 8.5% to win the #1 overall pick.

Chicago's odds are 6.7%.

Why on earth would we trade Debrincat for an extra 1.8%...

 

[oconnor9sean]

NJ odds are currently 8.5% to win the #1 overall pick.

Chicago's odds are 6.7%.

Why on earth would we trade Debrincat for an extra 1.8%...

That's not how math/odds work (disregarding, of course, the ramifications of the Seth Jones trade).

 

[Stephen Gionta]

NJ odds are currently 8.5% to win the #1 overall pick.

Chicago's odds are 6.7%.

Why on earth would we trade Debrincat for an extra 1.8%...

Oh boy...

 

[HugeInTheShire]

NJ odds are currently 8.5% to win the #1 overall pick.

Chicago's odds are 6.7%.

Why on earth would we trade Debrincat for an extra 1.8%...

Funny, math in this scenario you wouldn't be trading for an extra 1.8% you'd be trading to get an additional 8.5% in addition to your as your 6.7%
Chicago doesn't even consider this trade though

 

[Blackjack]

NJ odds are currently 8.5% to win the #1 overall pick.

Chicago's odds are 6.7%.

Why on earth would we trade Debrincat for an extra 1.8%...

 

[TBF1972]

blind side hit by scotty

 

[Taylorst]

Cats cost would be 2 first round picks plus a 2nd

Or a 1st
Elite level prospect
Plus a 2nd
OR 1ST
PLUS nhl level promising player and high level prospect

Cat is a bona-fide 40 to 50 goal scorer any team pursuing him will have to come up with one of those packages

 

[Esq]

Bad proposal from both sides.

 

[Taylorst]

NJ odds are currently 8.5% to win the #1 overall pick.

Chicago's odds are 6.7%.

Why on earth would we trade Debrincat for an extra 1.8%...

Cat would bring back multiple high draft picks plus prospects, the team is heading into a full rebuild, why hang onto him ? Chicago is many years away from thinking of m competing hence you move cat to help with gaining young elite prospects or multiple high draft picks

 

[dj Mahoney]

For Blackhawks fans: (other fans can chime in too!)

New Jersey currently has the 4th worst points percentage in the league, ahead of only Seattle, Arizona, and Montreal. With both Bernier and Blackwood out for the rest of the season, and third string goaltender Wedgewood lost to waivers to Arizona earlier this year, it's possible they continue to fall in the standings.

As of now, NJ has these percent chances in the draft:
1st overall - 9.7%
2nd overall - 9.9%
4th overall - 13.7%
5th overall - 43.6%
6th overall - 23.1%

Would you trade Alex DeBrincat to NJ for our unprotected 2022 1st round pick + Pavel Zacha + Jesper Boqvist?

Not even close for the Cat.

 

[COHawk]

Funny, math in this scenario you wouldn't be trading for an extra 1.8% you'd be trading to get an additional 8.5% in addition to your as your 6.7%
Chicago doesn't even consider this trade though

Right. Not sure why I was thinking they'd be swapping picks rather than adding. My mistake.

 

[HugeInTheShire]

Right. Not sure I was thinking they'd be swapping picks rather than adding. My mistake.

No bid deal, I assumed that is what happened. Still a terrible deal for everyone involved lol

 

[Dr Danglefest]

Cat would bring back multiple high draft picks plus prospects, the team is heading into a full rebuild, why hang onto him ? Chicago is many years away from thinking of m competing hence you move cat to help with gaining young elite prospects or multiple high draft picks

Isn’t Debrincat only 24 and would be considered entering his Prime when this supposed rebuild would be theoretically ending?

 

[Rabid Ranger]

DeBrincat/Kane works so why not DeBrincat/Hughes! The only problem is the price New Jersey would have to pay in a hypothetical trade would be exorbitant.

 

[SoftDumpNtheCorner88]

This smells a lot like the Boston/Kessel trade to the leafs. Accept worse.

 

[TLEH]

DeBrincat scores goals but he also PKs and is not at all soft. He is way closer to Marchand than Kessel in play style. He really isn't like either player, but he REALLY isn't like Kessel.

 

[Taylorst]

Isn’t Debrincat only 24 and would be considered entering his Prime when this supposed rebuild would be theoretically ending?

Yes he is 24 so looking at a full rebuild cat would be wasting his prime years if he decides to stay , but than again why would chicago put themselves in a position to overpay him and get no benefits from a guy at 28 or 30 by the time chicago might be ready to compete.

Crawford was drafted in 03 but didn't come up until 2010 and right now chicago has to many spots to address.

 

[Mrfenn92]

Yes he is 24 so looking at a full rebuild cat would be wasting his prime years if he decides to stay , but than again why would chicago put themselves in a position to overpay him and get no benefits from a guy at 28 or 30 by the time chicago might be ready to compete.

Crawford was drafted in 03 but didn't come up until 2010 and right now chicago has to many spots to address.

Crawford is a goalie.

 

[Taylorst]

Crawford is a goalie.

Correct I was merely using him as a example as to the length of time it takes to get these kids ready especially defenseman and goalies.

Right now all they really have is Reichel and a few defenseman.

 

[Dr Danglefest]

Yes he is 24 so looking at a full rebuild cat would be wasting his prime years if he decides to stay , but than again why would chicago put themselves in a position to overpay him and get no benefits from a guy at 28 or 30 by the time chicago might be ready to compete.

Crawford was drafted in 03 but didn't come up until 2010 and right now chicago has to many spots to address.

28 would be entering his prime, so if that’s his age when they exit the rebuild why wouldn’t that be a perfect fit?

 

[Billdo]

For Blackhawks fans: (other fans can chime in too!)

New Jersey currently has the 4th worst points percentage in the league, ahead of only Seattle, Arizona, and Montreal. With both Bernier and Blackwood out for the rest of the season, and third string goaltender Wedgewood lost to waivers to Arizona earlier this year, it's possible they continue to fall in the standings.

As of now, NJ has these percent chances in the draft:
1st overall - 9.7%
2nd overall - 9.9%
4th overall - 13.7%
5th overall - 43.6%
6th overall - 23.1%

Would you trade Alex DeBrincat to NJ for our unprotected 2022 1st round pick + Pavel Zacha + Jesper Boqvist?

I wouldn't do this and I'm a Devils fan, obviously.

 

[Billdo]

NJ odds are currently 8.5% to win the #1 overall pick.

Chicago's odds are 6.7%.

Why on earth would we trade Debrincat for an extra 1.8%...

Bruh... it's in addition to your 6.7...

 

[TBF1972]

Right. Not sure why I was thinking they'd be swapping picks rather than adding. My mistake.

i actually went back to see, if i missed chicago's first in the op.

 

[The Red Line]

I don't really follow the Hawks but with them extending Jones and keeping Kane and Toews I can't see them trying to rebuild yet.

The GM that made those moves isn't in the organization anymore.

They are nowhere near a playoff team, let alone attempting to contend for a cup or in any kind of "win now" mode, lol come on.

 

[Taylorst]

28 would be entering his prime, so if that’s his age when they exit the rebuild why wouldn’t that be a perfect fit?

Actually that's not true most hockey players are in their prime in their early 20's to mid 20's by 28 to 30 most players especially forwards their productivity drops significantly.

Very few players keep excelling into their early 30's. Hossa , kane , ovie as examples of players who play or played at a higher level.

Sharp tailored off around 30 .

A full rebuild has no time table that any team can say for sure will be completed.
Cat I believe has 1 more year so any team if acquired would be getting a huge bargain in terms of salary for a 40 to 50 goal scorer.