Football thread (2024 season)

The Broncos are going to pay more money for Russell Wilson this season than the Giants will pay for him and both Jameis years combined lol
and thank goodness they made that decision to get rid of Wilson cap implications and all vs keeping him like some Bronco fans/Writers wanted. They would have been stuck in the mediocrity with Wilson rather than changing direction and drafting an exciting QB in Nix.
Wilson is a great QB to go 5-12 or 6-11 with.
 
NFL doesn't circumvent the cap so much as they are permitted to use the old phrase of "Borrow from Peter to pay Paul", in that they utilize cap space in future years to pay for the player for the current year. The NFL allows teams to re-classify a payment to a player as a "Bonus" which can be allocated against the cap over multiple years to lower the cap charge for the current year, but adds future cap charges for the team to absorb later. Because their salary cap always (outside of the Covid year) goes up by a good amount. When the better players leave a team, they will have a lot of Dead Cap remaining. Brady was over $30 mill for TB to absorb when he was done, Cousins was $28 mill for Minny, Kelce/Cox for Phil was like $50 mill combined, etc. NHL fans are not accustomed to dead cap. They freak out about buying out a player or retaining on a contract for multiple seasons. NFL, there are more than a few teams with $50 mill plus of dead cap heading into 2025 season. SF/PHI for example.

NFL offers teams flexibility in adjusting the cap charges, but at the end of the day, each dollar they pay to the player has to hit their salary cap. NHL operates on the money that a player gets paid, has to hit the salary cap of a NHL team over the life of the contract. It's not based on who pays the player, thus rich teams can front load a contract and dump that higher cap charge onto a smaller market team later and actually end up having taken lower cap charges than the money they paid to the player. In the NFL, trading a player, like Seattle just did with Metcalf/Geno Smith, triggered Dead Cap for what remained unallocated for them for 2025.

I don't foresee the NHL adjusting how they do cap charges on the next CBA. Seems like they are not going to rock the boat in terms of most of the current CBA details. Will be some changes, but how they account for salary cap charges doesn't appear to be one of their main issues in negotiations.
The other big difference between the NFL an most other spots is that contracts are not usually guaranteed. NFL teams would be a lot more restricted in the moves they make otherwise.
 
The other big difference between the NFL an most other spots is that contracts are not usually guaranteed. NFL teams would be a lot more restricted in the moves they make otherwise.
Yeah, I mean an NFL contract is really between 1-3 years in real length with the "Extra years" being the team option to pick up or not. Basically, have to take the amount of Guaranteed money and divide by the AAV of the contract. That basically gives you the real term of that player's contract.

Player gets the "Guaranteed portion", be it in Signing bonus, and whatever option, roster, or base salaries are guaranteed. Elite players, that's going to be 3 years, very good players like 2 years, and everyone else like 1 year.

Diggs got 3 years at $69 mill from NE, but it is really a 1 year deal for $26 mill. The final $43 mill is at NE's option to pick up or not.

The team benefits by having the extra years to allocate the bonus money over to reduce the cap charge. Player still gets their money. But, unless you have the clout to demand a new deal once the guaranteed money is up, like Crosby/Garrett who just finished their guaranteed money, but had 1 or 2 years left, these are the types of guys to get new guaranteed money.

If you are worth it, the team will figure out a way to get you your money to accommodate the cap charge. Otherwise, team will cut you.
 
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It's not violent but it's dumb and gross so I'm good with the ban.


What a punk.
 
Man, the Giants really overpaid for Wilson, after already signing Winston... Makes no sense to me. I told my wife, a Giants fan, that she doesn't have to worry about Rodgers signing there anymore at least lol. Definitely looks like the Giants are drafting Hunter, if the Browns don't take him.

As a Jets fan, I actually like the Fields signing. Low risk signing, he's excited to redeem himself, and probably fits the mold of what Glenn is looking for.
How on earth is it an overpay for Wilson? The contract is great. Very little guaranteed cash.
 
How on earth is it an overpay for Wilson? The contract is great. Very little guaranteed cash.
Wilson is 1 year at $10.5 mill. Winston, 2 years at $4 mill AAV but it’s likely just a 1 year deal in reality.
They are eating like $22 mill for Jones. So QB costs would be $36.5 mill for the giants vs the cap this season.
 

Hunter may be gone by pick 3.
Then you draft Carter and run.

In the end, most likely to be the most impactful player in five years.
 
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ESPN does an all-trade NFL mock draft every year. Barnwell's annual all-trades NFL mock draft: Proposing 32 deals to transform Round 1

"3. Giants get: 1-8, 2-57, 2026 second-round pick
Panthers get: 1-3, 2026 fifth-round pick

If Ward and Sanders come off the board with the top two picks, the Giants would find themselves in a difficult predicament. The clear top player available would be Abdul Carter"

"7. Jets get: 1-15, 2026 third-round pick, TE Kyle Pitts
Falcons get: 1-7

Outside of the offensive linemen, this is a potential landing spot for front-seven defenders Mason Graham, Jalon Walker (Georgia), Jihaad Campbell (Alabama) and Mike Green (Marshall)"
 

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