Flyers fire John Tortorella, name Brad Shaw interim head coach

[Nikolajs Sillers]

 

[Divine]

Torts seemed like he was begging to get fired

He watched the Flyers score the first 3 goals last game only to be down 2-1 and had enough

 

[majormajor]

I guess those comments he made last game didn't sit well.
If your coach is not fully committed, he shouldn't be coaching,

probably a save face way of the org firing him.

Those comments were unacceptable, but probably gave him the option of getting fired or stepping down. Guy with his ego probably took the saving face over the money.

You got it precisely backwards.

Torts didn't want to do it anymore and his public comments were part of his way of getting fired so he could keep getting paid.

He tried to do the same thing in Columbus, and asked to get fired, and they wouldn't do it. They made him coach the last year of his deal, which was the wrong decision.

I can't believe he's only coached 5 teams. I swear it seems like double that honestly.

He's only had two full years off from being a head coach in the NHL since the year 2000. 5 teams. And despite the common myth out there that he has a short shelf life, on average he lasts longer than most coaches.

 

[LTIR]

I'm not reading this entire thread.

Not sure where the confusion lies, either with Tortorella or the Flyers organization.

No objective observer would have projected this team to have any more than four points more than it currently does at this point in the season.

That's all this team is capable of. They aren't good.

Maybe not the team but I'm sure Michkov would have more than 51pts if there was another coach and Kuzmenko would've played more than 7 games for them.

They may have been able to keep Frost, Laughton and Farabee if the coach was different.

 

[The Hockey Tonk Man]

Boston players have the heart and grind. I could see him doing well with your bunch.

Yeah that have like 3 3rd-4th lines right now
Torts dream hahaha

 

[Voight]

Im at a loss how this guy has been hired over and over. He's Toxic!

He really isn't. His former players speak highly of him. The media likes to demonize him but hes a great person outside of the rink and ive never seen a former player say anything bad about him.

He has a shelf life sure and is best suited for a contending team but he isn't toxic at all.

 

[Naych_PHX]

Reminds me of that Mike Silngleltary post game.
"Can not play with them. Can not win with them. Cannot coach with them. Can't do it."

 

[Winston Wolf]

He really isn't. His former players speak highly of him. The media likes to demonize him but hes a great person outside of the rink and ive never seen a former player say anything bad about him.

He has a shelf life sure and is best suited for a contending team but he isn't toxic at all.

NHL Players Take a Shot at John Tortorella and Mike Babcock in Recent Player Poll

 

[rielledup]

Michkov certainly looks like he has a jump in his step tonight...

 

[Naych_PHX]

NHL Players Take a Shot at John Tortorella and Mike Babcock in Recent Player Poll

Do you think Torts cares about the pictures on a players phone?

 

[the valiant effort]

So uh what’s the deal with Cam York?

 

[Winston Wolf]

Do you think Torts cares about the pictures on a players phone?

What does that have to do with the link I posted?

The players don't like Tortorella or his mind games or the pointless drama he demands on a consistent basis.

 

[Bowski]

Can he call his BFF and convince him to go F himself as well?
Maybe they can rekindle their wonderful multi-cup winning relationship in Mongolia or somewhere just as nice. What's Mike Keenan up to these days?

The glasses do nothing other than mimic his loser nerd clueless boss.

 

[johnnyonthspot]

Paul Maurice did it in Winnipeg

Winnipeg coach Maurice resigns in 9th season

Jets coach Paul Maurice has resigned after over eight seasons with Winnipeg and five playoff appearances.

www.espn.com

Paul Maurice was burnt out but had a hand in creating problems in the Jets locker room. I do not think Torts created the same atmosphere as Maurice did but he is as old school as they come. He has made other comments alluding to players being much different today than in past years. It is not easy to hold players accountable these days as it once was and I think that was one of his good coaching traits. I think he was asking for the axe with that rant and basically threw in the towel. It is a bad look for the players in that room.
I will miss his interviews but good luck to him in his future endeavors!

 

[Rich Nixon]

So uh what’s the deal with Cam York?

Torts is still coach.

I dunno. Dunno what to tell people. They screwed up the Gauthier situation, have an open grievance with Ryan Johansen, are rumored to have skipped Buium because he shares their agent, have had players refuse to waive for them, traded multiple players at the behest of the coach they just fired, had Kolosov nearly refuse to report less than 6 months after leaving Belarus for them, and can't get players coming from Canada a visa in less than two weeks...

...Briere doesn't know what he's doing. For whatever reason they are mad at York--must have come to practice too happy this morning after Torts was fired. But he is on the bench when they really wanted to healthy scratch him because be has to be. They literally need to dress him to have 18 skaters. Because they used their last callup over the weekend on Kolosov, so they could inexplicably carry 3 bad goalies for the final 9 games rather than 2, and they only have 18 healthy skaters.

Torts was a symptom, not the problem. They're a trashcan organization at the moment.

 

[SoupNazi]

I think he’s done coaching

I think that every time and he keeps returning.

 

[SmoggyTwinkles]

probably a save face way of the org firing him.

Those comments were unacceptable, but probably gave him the option of getting fired or stepping down. Guy with his ego probably took the saving face over the money.

At least he was honest.

Didn't want to coach a crap team, too old for that crap, and "that's on me"

I respect that type of honesty. If you're not happy, you can do something about it or keep on keeping on.

Tort's had enough and I'm sure his team did too.

 

[SmoggyTwinkles]

He was basically begging to get fired

I wish I was in a postion to beg to be fired.

I mean anyone of us could do it:

"What's up upper management? I really hate my job can you fire me? Please?"

Nah,

"I'd rather be homeless, but I have to much pride to quit........seriously can you please fire me?"

No,

Torts goes to media "I'm begging to be fired because I'm just not into this situation, and that's on me, I'm not doing my job well, and that's on me"

Next day gets fired.

Torts knows what he's doing and I appreciate him in that way.

In no WAY would I, or probably any other fan of an NHL team, want this guy to be their coach.

 

[GeeoffBrown]

I'm suprised Tortorella has so many haters praying on his demise...


Maybe it's cuz he never coached my team that I can't relate

I think it's mainly because Torts is mouthy

 

[Hint1k]

It was obvious he should be fired right when he benched Michkov and not because Michkov was bad, it because Torts is a coach with authoritarian leadership style.

Which is completely unfit for the team that is focused on a long term success. Moreover the fact he was hired in the first place says that the people who hired him were completely incompetent. They don't know well known scientific facts.

Fun fact about that leadership style - if anyone hires Torts to win right now - this playoff - it is going to be the right decision.

 

[ViD]

It was obvious he should be fired right when he benched Michkov and not because Michkov was bad, it because Torts is a coach with authoritarian leadership style which is completely unfit for the team that is focused on a long term success. Moreover the fact he was hired in the first place says that the people who hired him were completely incompetent.

To his defense, he made play offs with absolutely weak rosters by implementing this style

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

Brad who?

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

 

[Naych_PHX]

What does that have to do with the link I posted?

The players don't like Tortorella or his mind games or the pointless drama he demands on a consistent basis.

Well it's good he realizes players don't like him and he needs to go away.
What does it have to do with the link? It's about Babcock and Torts. It's not like I was talking about Pat Burns or something.

 

[Hint1k]

To his defense, he made play offs with absolutely weak rosters by implementing this style

That is the difference between authoritarian leadership and democratic leadership. Former is good for short term, latter is good for long term success. It is basic science. But nhl managers are dinosaurs who do not trust science.