well that sucked. the two favorites.
i should have targeted the other races on the card instead.
i should have targeted the other races on the card instead.
Horse Racing: Flavien Prat nearing records for stakes and graded wins
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Oaks WHICH almost turned into a mudbath.... but luckily the weather held off congrats to those connections
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I have an Oaks-Derby Double existing. I played 3-5-8-11/3-17-19. Not much value, if any, unless the 19 can pull it off.
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Friday, May 3, 2024
- Steve Asmussen, and his massive stable, is just 22 1-3-2 this month. Looking at his stable on major race days and Saturdays is almost a requirement as the winningest conditioner in history.
- Eric Cancel rode three winners.
- Race 3: Royalty Interest (Eric Cancel/Chad Brown) was the longest shot on the board yet won the $200,000 Grade 3 Sheepshead Bay Stakes.
- Race 8: Messier (Jose Gomez/Richie Dutrow) won the Grade 3 $175,000 Westchester Stakes. Post Time (Sheldon Russell/Brittany Russell) placed and now has a lifetime mark of 10 8-1-1.
- Attendance: 107,236.
- Handle: Roughly $75 million. Churchill usually doesn't release precise figures through Equibase. UPDATE: A new record at $73 million.
- Card: 13 races of which each was $100,000+ and two $1 million or more. The card had seven graded stakes which included a pair of Grade 1, three Grade 2 and two Grade 3.
- Brad Cox trained three winners including both Grade 1 races.
- Flavien Prat (10 1-0-0) and Tyler Gaffalione (12 1-1-2) rode the final two winners. The duo, among America's many elite riders, had zero victories combined heading into the 12th race.
- Race 1: Sundance Feature (Luis Saez/Tom Drury) won a $120,000 MSW by more than 12 lengths. The 3-year-old daughter to Speightstown was out for the second time.
- Race 5: Idiomatic (Florent Geroux/Cox) won the Grade 1 $1 million La Troienne Stakes.
- Race 6: Ova Charged (Florent Geroux/Shane Wilson) won a 3-way humdinger to win the Grade 3 $400,000 Unbridled Sidney Stakes.
- Race 9: The $1 Super High Five paid over $272,000. If your numbers are 11-1-6-9-8, go collect it is the whole pool!
- Race 11: Thorpedo Anna (Brian Hernandez. Jr./Kenny McPeek) won the Grade 1 $1.5 million 150th Kentucky Oaks. She opened it up in the stretch to win by more than four lengths. Anna is 5 4-1-0 lifetime.
Oaklawn (Arkansas):- Handle: $7.1 million.
- Race 11: The $.50 Pick 5 returned more than $71,000.
- Race 10: One of the most staggering payouts of the year: The $.10 super returned more than $15,000. There was $95,000 in the pool which means multiple winners somehow had 37-to-1, 19-1, 18-1 and 24-1.
- Race 6: A 74-to-1 shot placed while the even-money favorite finished well behind the field.
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SATURDAY, MAY 4
Much is made about post positions in Kentucky Derby history but some of that data is misleading. There are higher numbers that have not been established as much as inside posts. Sierra Leone (2) and Fierceness (17) are vying for race-time favorite status yet are in historically bad posts.
Owners: 1 - West Paces Racing (Larry Connolly), R. A. Hill Stable (Raymond A. Hill, III), Belmar Racing and Breeding, LLC (Vito Cucci), Two Eight Racing (Jayson Werth) and Pine Racing Stables (Mark Pine) ; 2 - Peter M. Brant, Mrs. John Magnier, Michael B. Tabor, Derrick Smith, Westerberg Limited (Michael Kuessner) and Brook T. Smith ; 3 - 4 G Racing, LLC (Brent Gasaway), Lance Gasaway, Daniel Hamby, III and Valley View Farm, LLC (Scott Hamby) ; 4 - Albaugh Family Stables, LLC (Dennis Albaugh) ; 5 - Tami Bobo, Julie Davies and George G. Isaacs ; 6 - BC Stables, LLC (John Bellinger and Brian Coelho) ; 7 - Ribble Farms, LLC (Alan Ribble), Michael H. Eiserman, Earl I. Silver, Kenneth E. Fishbein and David Fishbein ; 8 - Qatar Racing, LLC (Sheikh Fahad Al Thani), Resolute Racing (John Stewart) and Marc Detampel ; 9 - Godolphin, LLC (Mohammed Al Maktoum, et al.) ; 10 - Tomoya Ozasa ; 11 - Susumu Fujita ; 12 - L and N Racing, LLC (Lee Levinson), Clark O. Brewster, Jerry Caroom and Breeze Easy, LLC (Mike Hall) ; 13 - Harry L. Veruchi ; 14 - Amerman Racing Stables, LLC (Mr. and Mrs. John Amerman) ; 15 - Klaravich Stables, Inc. (Seth Klarman) ; 16 - Granpollo Stables, LLC (David Geofroy) ; 17 - Repole Stable (Mike Repole) ; 18 - Sharon and Rick Waller ; 19 - Emily Bushnell and Ric Waldman ; 20 - Reeves Thoroughbred Racing (Dean Reeves), West Paces Racing, LLC (Larry Connolly), GMP Stables, LLC (Anthony Melfi), and Carl F. and Yurie Pascarella ; 21 - Welch Racing, LLC (George Hough) ; 22 - Average Joe Racing Stables, Ltd. (Christopher T. Britton) and Dan Wells
Breeders: 1 - Grandview Equine; 2 - Debby M. Oxley; 3 - Lance Gasaway, Daniel Hamby & 4GRacing, LLC; 4 - WinStar Farm, LLC; 5 - Fred W. Hertrich III; 6 - Summerhill Farm; 7 - Royce Pulliam; 8 - Don Alberto Corporation; 9 - Godolphin; 10 - Yanagawa Bokujo; 11 - Northern Racing; 12 - Breeze Easy, LLC; 13 - Two Hearts Farm II LLC; 14 - Mrs. Jerry Amerman; 15 - Klaravich Stables; 16 - John D. Gunther; 17 - Repole Stable, Inc.; 18 - Eric Waller & Sharon Waller; 19 - Pam & Martin Wygod; 20 - SF Bloodstock LLC; 21 - Fred W. Hertrich III; 22 - JSM Equine, LLC
Pedigrees (Sire - Dam, by Dam Sire): 1 - Good Magic - Puca , by Big Brown ; 2 - Gun Runner - Heavenly Love , by Malibu Moon ; 3 - Goldencents - Ma'am , by Colonel John ; 4 - Constitution - Catch My Drift , by Pioneerof the Nile ; 5 - Catalina Cruiser - One Show Only , by Distorted Humor ; 6 - Justify - Irish Lights (AUS) , by Fastnet Rock (AUS) ; 7 - Honor Code - Dame Marie , by Smart Strike ; 8 - Justify - Touching Beauty , by Tapit ; 9 - Nyquist - Glittering Jewel , by Bernardini ; 10 - Copano Rickey (JPN) - T O Rachel (JPN) , by King Kamehameha (JPN) ; 11 - Real Steel (JPN) - Forever Darling , by Congrats ; 12 - Quality Road - Miss Sunset , by Into Mischief ; 13 - Exaggerator - Mo Wicked , by Uncle Mo ; 14 - Oscar Performance - Dream Fuhrever , by Langfuhr ; 15 - Practical Joke - Goods and Services , by Paynter ; 16 - Uncle Mo - Lilies So Fair , by Giant's Causeway ; 17 - City of Light - Nonna Bella , by Stay Thirsty ; 18 - Ghostzapper - Spectator , by Jimmy Creed ; 19 - Into Mischief - Meadowsweet , by Smart Strike ; 20 - Good Magic - You Cheated , by Colonel John ; 21 - Blame - Pick a Time , by Gio Ponti ; 22 - Blofeld - Union Way , by Union Rags ;
Saturday's card:
- Kentucky Derby (Saturday) broadcast information is posted below. That is in addition to the traditional methods on FanDuel (TVG) and through simulcast parlors.
- Saturday's card is posted below.
| Date | Time (ET) | Event | Platform(s) |
| Sat., May 4 | Noon | Kentucky Derby Prep races | USA Network, Peacock |
| 2:30 p.m. | 150th Kentucky Derby | NBC, Peacock |
Much is made about post positions in Kentucky Derby history but some of that data is misleading. There are higher numbers that have not been established as much as inside posts. Sierra Leone (2) and Fierceness (17) are vying for race-time favorite status yet are in historically bad posts.
- Number 1: Ferdinand in 1986 will be mentioned as the most recent #1 winner.
- Number 2: Often overlooked is the #2 has not produced a winner since Affirmed -- arguably the greatest Florida-bred of them all -- in 1978.
- Number 5: The winningest post with 10 wins.
- Number 6: The abysmal plight of #6 (2 wins in 94 starts).
- Number 9: 4 wins in 90 starts has been dormant from the winner's circle since Riva Ridge in 1972.
- Number 17: This year's favorite is entering from the #17 which is the only number not to win (44 starts) from 1 through 20.
Owners: 1 - West Paces Racing (Larry Connolly), R. A. Hill Stable (Raymond A. Hill, III), Belmar Racing and Breeding, LLC (Vito Cucci), Two Eight Racing (Jayson Werth) and Pine Racing Stables (Mark Pine) ; 2 - Peter M. Brant, Mrs. John Magnier, Michael B. Tabor, Derrick Smith, Westerberg Limited (Michael Kuessner) and Brook T. Smith ; 3 - 4 G Racing, LLC (Brent Gasaway), Lance Gasaway, Daniel Hamby, III and Valley View Farm, LLC (Scott Hamby) ; 4 - Albaugh Family Stables, LLC (Dennis Albaugh) ; 5 - Tami Bobo, Julie Davies and George G. Isaacs ; 6 - BC Stables, LLC (John Bellinger and Brian Coelho) ; 7 - Ribble Farms, LLC (Alan Ribble), Michael H. Eiserman, Earl I. Silver, Kenneth E. Fishbein and David Fishbein ; 8 - Qatar Racing, LLC (Sheikh Fahad Al Thani), Resolute Racing (John Stewart) and Marc Detampel ; 9 - Godolphin, LLC (Mohammed Al Maktoum, et al.) ; 10 - Tomoya Ozasa ; 11 - Susumu Fujita ; 12 - L and N Racing, LLC (Lee Levinson), Clark O. Brewster, Jerry Caroom and Breeze Easy, LLC (Mike Hall) ; 13 - Harry L. Veruchi ; 14 - Amerman Racing Stables, LLC (Mr. and Mrs. John Amerman) ; 15 - Klaravich Stables, Inc. (Seth Klarman) ; 16 - Granpollo Stables, LLC (David Geofroy) ; 17 - Repole Stable (Mike Repole) ; 18 - Sharon and Rick Waller ; 19 - Emily Bushnell and Ric Waldman ; 20 - Reeves Thoroughbred Racing (Dean Reeves), West Paces Racing, LLC (Larry Connolly), GMP Stables, LLC (Anthony Melfi), and Carl F. and Yurie Pascarella ; 21 - Welch Racing, LLC (George Hough) ; 22 - Average Joe Racing Stables, Ltd. (Christopher T. Britton) and Dan Wells
Breeders: 1 - Grandview Equine; 2 - Debby M. Oxley; 3 - Lance Gasaway, Daniel Hamby & 4GRacing, LLC; 4 - WinStar Farm, LLC; 5 - Fred W. Hertrich III; 6 - Summerhill Farm; 7 - Royce Pulliam; 8 - Don Alberto Corporation; 9 - Godolphin; 10 - Yanagawa Bokujo; 11 - Northern Racing; 12 - Breeze Easy, LLC; 13 - Two Hearts Farm II LLC; 14 - Mrs. Jerry Amerman; 15 - Klaravich Stables; 16 - John D. Gunther; 17 - Repole Stable, Inc.; 18 - Eric Waller & Sharon Waller; 19 - Pam & Martin Wygod; 20 - SF Bloodstock LLC; 21 - Fred W. Hertrich III; 22 - JSM Equine, LLC
Pedigrees (Sire - Dam, by Dam Sire): 1 - Good Magic - Puca , by Big Brown ; 2 - Gun Runner - Heavenly Love , by Malibu Moon ; 3 - Goldencents - Ma'am , by Colonel John ; 4 - Constitution - Catch My Drift , by Pioneerof the Nile ; 5 - Catalina Cruiser - One Show Only , by Distorted Humor ; 6 - Justify - Irish Lights (AUS) , by Fastnet Rock (AUS) ; 7 - Honor Code - Dame Marie , by Smart Strike ; 8 - Justify - Touching Beauty , by Tapit ; 9 - Nyquist - Glittering Jewel , by Bernardini ; 10 - Copano Rickey (JPN) - T O Rachel (JPN) , by King Kamehameha (JPN) ; 11 - Real Steel (JPN) - Forever Darling , by Congrats ; 12 - Quality Road - Miss Sunset , by Into Mischief ; 13 - Exaggerator - Mo Wicked , by Uncle Mo ; 14 - Oscar Performance - Dream Fuhrever , by Langfuhr ; 15 - Practical Joke - Goods and Services , by Paynter ; 16 - Uncle Mo - Lilies So Fair , by Giant's Causeway ; 17 - City of Light - Nonna Bella , by Stay Thirsty ; 18 - Ghostzapper - Spectator , by Jimmy Creed ; 19 - Into Mischief - Meadowsweet , by Smart Strike ; 20 - Good Magic - You Cheated , by Colonel John ; 21 - Blame - Pick a Time , by Gio Ponti ; 22 - Blofeld - Union Way , by Union Rags ;
Saturday's card:
| Race | Purse | Race Type | Distance | Surface | Starters | Est. Post |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | $120,000 | Maiden Special Weight | 6 1/2 F | Dirt | 8 | 10:30 AM ET |
| 2 | $134,000 | Allowance Optional Claiming | 1 M | Dirt | 11 | 11:01 AM ET |
| 3 | $127,000 | Allowance Optional Claiming | 1 1/16 M | Dirt | 11 | 11:31 AM ET |
| 4 | $200,000 | Knicks Go Overnight S. presented by L&N Federal Credit Union | 1 M | Dirt | 11 | 12:04 PM ET |
| 5 | $600,000 | Twin Spires Turf Sprint S. presented by Sentient Jet | 5 1/2 F | Turf | 17 | 12:36 PM ET |
| 6 | $1,000,000 | Derby City Distaff S. presented by Kendall-Jackson Winery | 7 F | Dirt | 10 | 1:14 PM ET |
| 7 | $750,000 | Longines Churchill Distaff Turf Mile S. | 1 M | Turf | 12 | 1:56 PM ET |
| 8 | $600,000 | Pat Day Mile S. presented by SAP | 1 M | Dirt | 12 | 2:46 PM ET |
| 9 | $600,000 | American Turf S. presented by TwinSpires | 1 1/16 M | Turf | 17 | 3:40 PM ET |
| 10 | $1,000,000 | Churchill Downs S. presented by Ford | 7 F | Dirt | 11 | 4:31 PM ET |
| 11 | $1,000,000 | Old Forester Bourbon Turf Classic S. | 1 1/8 M | Turf | 11 | 5:27 PM ET |
| 12 | $5,000,000 | Kentucky Derby presented by Woodford Reserve | 1 1/4 M | Dirt | 22 | 6:57 PM ET |
| 13 | $127,000 | Allowance Optional Claiming | 7 F | Dirt | 16 | 8:00 PM ET |
| 14 | $120,000 | Maiden Special Weight | 1 M | Dirt | 12 | 8:35 PM ET |
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It appears that midday precipitation is likely for Louisville on Saturday (today). Otherwise, nothing heavy.
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Happy Derby May the 4th be w/ the horses today and no injuries....
1st 2 undercard races have been run (USA/US)
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1st 2 undercard races have been run (USA/US)
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Is it just me or does the Kentucky Derby seem to happen later and later each year. Just saw the post time for today's race and I could swear it started an hour earlier 3 years ago. I hope this race doesn't become a night race. It should happen still in the middle of the day.
Unless rain is the reason for the late start.
Unless rain is the reason for the late start.
TV like the Oaks yesterday is the reasoning... USA had the traditional NBC Sports racing crew until the Oaks coverage in the 5 pm timeslot.... that's when Tirico WAS ADDED TO THE new set @ Churchill.... it's also why you're seeing split coverage today w/ USA going to 2:30 THEN NBC takes it through the Derby.... same likely w/ the Preakness and the Belmont in June , which Fox.... it has always been in the 6 pm timeslot.
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It is run on the first saturday every May.
Oh you are talking about the race time.
It's mostly been 7 pm every time I've followed.
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