GDT: Flames @ Leafs | Nov 10; 7pm EST

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I mean...it wasn't even a scoring chance honestly. It was a nothing shot that Woll put back on a tee for Zary. I really do understand that the 4th line has been a complete disaster....that doesn't mean everything bad that happens while they are out there is on them either though.
This, it's just lazy to blame them for that tire fire goaltending. I suppose Kampf wiffing on the shot to cause the break back, but he has to save that muffin, and to give up that pad rebound is atrocious.
 
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That goal not being on them doesn't mean they aren't terrible lol it was a complete nothing play where Woll put the puck on a tee for the other team. There can be nuance here I know it can be tough.
Last year that shift is played entirely in the offensive zone and they don’t give up that kinda chance.
 
4th line obviously sucks but people will blame that one on them when it wasn't their fault even a little bit lol

The problem is it's construction. Kampf is a good 4th line center, not going to score much but you can play him him against the other teams top 6 without it being a crisis.

Now that he's paired with Reaves, you still aren't going to get any offense and now if he gets trapped vs the other team's top 6 it's a disaster.

Reaves has basically ruined any value that Kampf had.
 
Calgary Flames always remind me of medium McDonalds French Fries. They need to get the Golden Arches on there as a sponsor.
 
Last year that shift is played entirely in the offensive zone and they don’t give up that kinda chance.
Man who knew we had the most dominant fourth line ever last year. It's almost mythical how they were always in their end, I missed that. Bring back ZAR!
 
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I mean...it wasn't even a scoring chance honestly. It was a nothing shot that Woll put back on a tee for Zary. I really do understand that the 4th line has been a complete disaster....that doesn't mean everything bad that happens while they are out there is on them either though.
I agree that wasn't a good move on Woll at all, no doubt. He usually is very good at controlling his rebound but in general, the transition game of the team is in the shitter and 4th line is also susceptible to it. Regardless of it, they will get an earful, any of the coaches I've played under will throw blame and then immediately point it out later on :laugh:
 
I’m sure all of those goals weren’t just their fault but it seems to keep happening
That's a more correct take.

That one wasn't their fault, but it doesn't mean Reaves should be playing
 
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