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Or maybe Im a fan of professional and not random 20 year oldMaybe he’s a Jason Blaha fan lol
Or maybe Im a fan of professional and not random 20 year oldMaybe he’s a Jason Blaha fan lol
It's more of the same. You're making progress right now, there's no reasons to change.I have been thinking a lot about the discussion from earlier today and I'd like your opinion.
It was suggested before that I consider Starting Strength as it is a linear progression routine to build strength. Currently I am following Stronglifts 5x5 which is the same thing.
Both programs focus on the same lifts and the progression is the same as well. SS has much lower volume, with 3x5 instead of 5x5 like I am doing now.
What is the advantage of SS over SL5x5? I am doing more volume and progressing at the same speed so why would it be better? It would certainly be easier to do 3x5 instead of 5x5 but at this weight there is no real need for that, I am not held back by doing the extra 2 sets.
It's more of the same. You're making progress right now, there's no reasons to change.
Also, you're already used to the volume of stronglifts, going down in volume rarely works, but at the same time you seem to have less than ideal recovery standards.
If you have half an hour, I'd advise you take a peek into your MRV and decide from there, my guess is that you'd score low-ish because of poor sleep/eating/stress, which would lower your maximum recoverable volume by quite a bit.
The usual range for hypertrophy is about 20 sets a week/exercise and for strength its about 16 sets a week for exercise. Just going by your description of you :
Being a beginner (More or less, lets not get caught up on terms.)
Having less than ideal sleep
Having less than ideal nutrition
Having less than ideal stress levels
Having lower class level strength (No offense, again.)
Being an average person in size and weight
I'd say you'd need to stay under 15 sets for strength and the usual 20 for hypertrophy.
Looking into periodization would be key too, if you care about that.
But, if you want to stay simple, SL or Madcow works great, until it doesn't anymore. If, and thats a big if, it stops working, then come back here and we can look at periodization, but again, to top off on Madcow/SL, you'll likely be in the 1000 range total without OHPs.
TLDR: SL puts you right in your MRV wheelhouse, SS puts you a bit under it. If you feel that SL takes a toll on your body, move to SS, but I doubt it will.
FYI I only heard of the dude from @Andrei79 in this very thread, then was impressed when he broke that Canadian junior bench record after getting called out by that dork Jason Blaha, started his program and enjoyed it, so I don’t really care. Just not sure why you randomly hate the guy especially because he’s a Montrealer...Or maybe Im a fan of professional and not random 20 year old
Theres just better information around. Ill never take advice from a guy that both lifts less than me and doesnt have any professional coaching experience.FYI I only heard of the dude from @Andrei79 in this very thread, then was impressed when he broke that Canadian junior bench record after getting called out by that dork Jason Blaha, started his program and enjoyed it, so I don’t really care. Just not sure why you randomly hate the guy especially because he’s a Montrealer...
It could be a plethora of factors but its usually poor recovery... Anyway, no point in changing what works... but when you see your progress stagnating, dont wait too long IMO. I wasted valuable time because I stuck with 531 for so, so long. At the end of the day the volume was just not good enough.For me I found 5 x5 or SL to be less effective than SS. I've done both and found that my recovery hit a wall doing 5 x 5 and it was just too much volume when Squatting 3 x per week once getting into to higher weights, at the beginning it was fine, but I believe he will plateau quicker doing SL vs 3x5. Seems to be the consensus when researching too that others experiences are similar to mine. SS is just a superior program imo.
Great post!!! Everyone is different, 5 x 5 was killing me tbh and 3 x 5 was allowing me to progress more easily, to me the extra volume for a beginner is completely unnecessary and hindering progress more than it was helping.
Lifts less than you? Well that is relative since you are bigger than he is, but the fact he has his name in the record books means he’s not someone who can just be dismissed.Theres just better information around. Ill never take advice from a guy that both lifts less than me and doesnt have any professional coaching experience.
Stopped the SS program and I have moved onto a different push/pull routine now that focuses still on compound movements.
I topped out at 335 squat, 205 bench, 335 deadlift, 120 OHP. I could still make progress by upping my calories, but really not what I am looking for. I feel those are great numbers coming from where I started. Now I'm trying to focus more on my diet and to fit into order clothes.
Those numbers are just my 1 rpm values, so in all likelihood you have already surpassed me. I was doing 275 3 x 5 on squat and deadlifts, 180 on bench 3 x 5 and my overhead has always been a sore spot for me, but I was doing 105 3 x 5. I feel like my squat was comfortable enough at 335 that I could have gone higher, but I just added weight until I was too zonked to add more, at the time I didn't know if I could go that high so I was adding 5 lbs per side from 300 until I couldn't add anymore. If I had have jumped to 335 from my 275 I prolly could have done more. My squat/deadlift were pretty were close in weight, so I just used my squat numbers to gauge what to put on for the deadlift. Not a very scientific approach.If you don't mind saying, what weight are you pulling those numbers at? Asking because I have similar numbers (except for squat where I'm way below you) but I got there with a year of training with only linear progression and would like to see a comparison of results with a better structured plan.
Craigslist ?Is it possible to buy a cardio machine without paying a fortune? I'd like one in my apartment.
Athlean-X / Jeff Cavaliere is by far the most scientific I've seen on Youtube. I'm actually tempted to buy one his programs.There probably isn't a more science based strength guy on youtube honestly...
Jeff is great, but he's more about athletics than pure strength, so it's a bit apples vs oranges....Athlean-X / Jeff Cavaliere is by far the most scientific I've seen on Youtube. I'm actually tempted to buy one his programs.
I was just talking in terms of explaining movements, muscle targeting, injury prevention, proper form, etc... I haven't seen anyone explain it in such detail.Jeff is great, but he's more about athletics than pure strength, so it's a bit apples vs oranges....
Is it possible to buy a cardio machine without paying a fortune? I'd like one in my apartment.
You are welcome to post here, its probably the best thread on the board, when its active.Kettlebell swings supersetted with burpees is a hell of a workout too.
Don't mind me, I just started getting back into fitness and saw this pop up in the 'new posts' section.
If it helps the Habs are probably my favourite Canadian team. You did give us a borderline dynasty after all.You are welcome to post here, its probably the best thread on the board, when its active.
Minus points for the uncalled for chirp :If it helps the Habs are probably my favourite Canadian team. You did give us a borderline dynasty after all.
I meant for giving us Sven Andrighetto. Who else??Minus points for the uncalled for chirp :
Oh, I thought it was linked to "Hey Habs fans, guess who's been playing top four for us because we suck" BarberioI meant for giving us Sven Andrighetto. Who else??
naaah.. He's been assigned to nacho duty for awhile. Especially with Makar in the lineup.Oh, I thought it was linked to "Hey Habs fans, guess who's been playing top four for us because we suck" Barberio