Fire Knoblauch

[Jimmi McJenkins]

I am not too young. Slats was unbelievably smart, intuitive, a great motivator and evaluator......with panache.

This guy Knobs....he's pretty good too.

One point, is we have had other good coaches, but the lineup was super stinky when we had them.

I just don't know you're going to see a coach with Slat's swagger anymore, but I like Knoblauch's calmness on the bench.

 

[NeverForget06]

I am not too young. Slats was unbelievably smart, intuitive, a great motivator and evaluator......with panache.

This guy Knobs....he's pretty good too.

One point, is we have had other good coaches, but the lineup was super stinky when we had them.

I always thought Todd Nelson was a great coach but that roster was pitiful - that was the Fasth/Scrivens combo. Perhaps the darkest goaltender duo in a decade where the net has been a constant source of embarrassment.

 

[Draiskull]

I am not too young. Slats was unbelievably smart, intuitive, a great motivator and evaluator......with panache.

This guy Knobs....he's pretty good too.

One point, is we have had other good coaches, but the lineup was super stinky when we had them.

Our lineup was pretty stinky when Knob got it. One can argue that its pretty stinky right now as well.

Guys like Kulak and Klingberg are playing top 4 mins, Skinner\Pickard tandem is pretty average or well below average as well. Guys like Podz, Kapanen, Perry playing key minutes.

Knob has found a way to make it work.

 

[Slats432]

This has got to be trolling.... you watch the games? Puts in Kapanen - scores the OT winner. Line matches Draisaitl and Eichel - Eichel doesn't score a single goal.

What woodcroft/tippett team could beat VGK on the road three times? What woodcroft/tippett team could PLAY DEFENCE??

This is moronic stuff

Got to be sarcasm.

 

[oXo Cube]

I am not too young. Slats was unbelievably smart, intuitive, a great motivator and evaluator......with panache.

This guy Knobs....he's pretty good too.

One point, is we have had other good coaches, but the lineup was super stinky when we had them.

Thing is I don't think we have really except for maybe Todd McLellan depending on what you think about him.

Other than that it was a carousel of over the hill dinosaurs(Hitchcock, Renney, Tippett) and full on frauds(Eakins, Kreuger, Woodcroft).

 

[Slats432]

Our lineup was pretty stinky when Knob got it. One can argue that its pretty stinky right now as well.

Guys like Kulak and Klingberg are playing top 4 mins, Skinner\Pickard tandem is pretty average or well below average as well. Guys like Podz, Kapanen, Perry playing key minutes.

Knob has found a way to make it work.

This is the best lineup since the 80s. One major loss in Ekholm. Lucky with Klingberg but otherwise pretty good stuff.

 

[Draiskull]

This is the best lineup since the 80s. One major loss in Ekholm. Lucky with Klingberg but otherwise pretty good stuff.

Dont agree. we really loaded up the year we had Pronger. Our defense and goaltending was much better then. Even in early 90s we were pretty good all around in Ranford, Cujo era. Mario\Jagr and co stopped us in early 90s.

This lineup is hardly an improvement over the earlier days with McDrai. (Hall, Ebs, Yak, Klefbom, Talbot , Sekera, Jultz)

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Dont agree. we really loaded up the year we had Pronger. Our defense and goaltending was much better then. Even in early 90s we were pretty good all around in Ranford, Cujo era. Mario\Jagr and co stopped us in early 90s.

This lineup is hardly an improvement over the earlier days with McDrai. (Hall, Ebs, Yak, Klefbom, Talbot , Sekera, Jultz)

Yeah that's just not true. I watched those decade of darkness teams, Henrique would have been a top line center on those teams. This team's roster isn't as bad as you suggest.

 

[Bumblebee Man]

Wrong to the bolded. Woodcroft was fired because he failed to make adjustment during the playoffs and then ultimately sealed his fate with a poor start the next season. Knob has shown the willingness to make changes, and so far, mostly the correct ones.

Wrong. When you make changes and win...it's called "adjustments"

When you do and lose...it's called " moronic and desperate "

Let's be real here. It's nothing more than hindsight arguments.

This can be proven by, and i won't name names, a poster on here defended Knob early when he was line juggling and I pointed out it was just that....line juggling. The EXACT same thing ppl on here complained about.
The reply was" but he does it more strategically"

Then during the 2 months of suck, you see the same person blasting Knob for the EXACT same decisions.

It's nothing more than goal post shuffling.

Just like the narrative that Woodcroft didn't make adjustments lolol. Sure he did. We just lost so it became that notion

 

[94 Oil Drops]

@Oilhawks no offense but I find this thread rather amusing now.

He went toe to toe with Cassidy, arguably the best coach in the league and owned him!

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Wrong. When you make changes and win...it's called "adjustments"

When you do and lose...it's called " moronic and desperate "

Let's be real here. It's nothing more than hindsight arguments.

This can be proven by, and i won't name names, a poster on here defended Knob early when he was line juggling and I pointed out it was just that....line juggling. The EXACT same thing ppl on here complained about.
The reply was" but he does it more strategically"

Then during the 2 months of suck, you see the same person blasting Knob for the EXACT same decisions.

It's nothing more than goal post shuffling.

Just like the narrative that Woodcroft didn't make adjustments lolol. Sure he did. We just lost so it became that notion

You probably need to break, you're sort of losing it. If you just want the team to lose to satisfy your outrage, then just say that. It makes things simpler.

But seriously, take a break.

 

[Draiskull]

Yeah that's just not true. I watched those decade of darkness teams, Henrique would have been a top line center on those teams. This team's roster isn't as bad as you suggest.

pretty sure the Oilers won a cup in 90s and went deep in 91-92.
Darkenss started afterwards where we had David Oliver and Marchant leading the way.

 

[Draiskull]

@Oilhawks no offense but I find this thread rather amusing now.

He went toe to toe with Cassidy, arguably the best coach in the league and owned him!

He did the same last year going up against supposedly the best set of NHL coaches

 

[Bumblebee Man]

its called in game adjustments. Maybe Vegas shouldve made more of those.

stealing good from other coaches and changing what isnt working makes you a smart coach.

Check his regular season and playoffs records and re-think fire Knob idea.

Knobloch is the best NHL coach this year. And has been the best Oilers coach in the past 30 years.

You realize everything he's doing now he did 2 months ago and was sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
criticized for it a Fire Knoblauch thread started.

The coach isnt making adjustments...the fans are...to their opinion

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

pretty sure the Oilers won a cup in 90s and went deep in 91-92.
Darkenss started afterwards where we had David Oliver and Marchant leading the way.

Not really, the middle 90s were bad for a lot of reason. the early 90s they were still decent with the hang over of the glory years. It was tougher to find players, drafting was atrocious.

This team is very good, this team is very deep, this team's coach understands his players and has a system they play to a tee.

 

[Bumblebee Man]

You probably need to break, you're sort of losing it. If you just want the team to lose to satisfy your outrage, then just say that. It makes things simpler.

But seriously, take a break.

Lol. This makes no sense

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Lol. This makes no sense

I'm telling you to take a break from the message board because you're spiraling to the point of absurdity. If you want the team to lose because you're mad about something, be straight up and say that.

Because that's how all your posts read.

Take a break, this f***ing team just beat the breaks off the Golden Knights and you're complaining that the coach isn't good. You've lost the plot, take a break.

 

[bone]

He did the same last year going up against supposedly the best set of NHL coaches

DeBoer and Maurice, sure. But Hiller wasn't much and Tocchet is the most overrated coach in the NHL right now.

Speaking of Tocchet, I can't believe the hype over a guy who has coached 9 seasons and only made playoffs twice, and only one real playoff series win.

Those two playoff season years were supported once by a Vezina runner up, and the other by a trio of Kuemper/Raanta/Hill putting up a team save percentage of .923.

And even in that year with that amazinng goaltending, they were well on their way to missing the playoffs prior to the Covid shutdown due to an 8-13-4 stretch dropping them from 1st in the Pacific down to 5th in the Pacific and 11th overall in the West.

Furthermore, the one season he has a team that carries their PDO luck into a "successful" run within 1 game of a Conference Final, the team completely implodes the next year with major dressing room divisions and likely is going to fall into a rebuild one year removed from success unless the next coach works some miracles to rebuild the room.

I can't believe teams were falling all over themselves to throw massive money at this guy.

 

[oobga]

First coach of the McDrai era we’ve had that can make adjustments in playoffs. He may need to refresh his special teams coaches but I believe in the Knob.

 

[Bumblebee Man]

I'm telling you to take a break from the message board because you're spiraling to the point of absurdity. If you want the team to lose because you're mad about something, be straight up and say that.

Because that's how all your posts read.

Take a break, this f***ing team just beat the breaks off the Golden Knights and you're complaining that the coach isn't good. You've lost the plot, take a break.

You read wrong then.

My posts are mere repeating what is said on here most of the time, minus the ironic emoji

The only thing changed is the timing of the posts.

That's the point

We're also having this discussion in the Fire Knobauch thread. Which started when? You see what you're missing here?

 

[Drivesaitl]

Lol. This makes no sense

Like almost all of your posts.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Wrong. When you make changes and win...it's called "adjustments"

When you do and lose...it's called " moronic and desperate "

Let's be real here. It's nothing more than hindsight arguments.

This can be proven by, and i won't name names, a poster on here defended Knob early when he was line juggling and I pointed out it was just that....line juggling. The EXACT same thing ppl on here complained about.
The reply was" but he does it more strategically"

Then during the 2 months of suck, you see the same person blasting Knob for the EXACT same decisions.

It's nothing more than goal post shuffling.

Just like the narrative that Woodcroft didn't make adjustments lolol. Sure he did. We just lost so it became that notion

These specific critiques were happening here, in realtime, by several posters seeing through Woody/Manson.

Its not hindsight.

KK/Coffey are quality. No comparison.

 

[LTIR]

I think some posters are just trolling here.
Not sure why this thread even exists now that we are in final 4 yet again.

 

[Bumblebee Man]

These specific critiques were happening here, in realtime, by several posters seeing through Woody/Manson.

Its not hindsight.

KK/Coffey are quality. No comparison.

Things that are true.

1. Drai has been good defensively all year
2. When Drai is not with McD, Podz has been on his line most of the time
3. Drai plays the best players ALWAYS. When he's on McD's or when not

Now it's hilarious to see fans and media suddenly act like none of this happened before the last few games. Even more so, it's hilarious to see ppl saying this is brilliant coaching by Knob

2 months ago when Drai was saddled to these 4th line wingers it was "what did Drai do to piss Knobby off?"

As of today...it's "what amazing adjustments by Knobby"

 

[Drivesaitl]

Things that are true.

1. Drai has been good defensively all year
2. When Drai is not with McD, Podz has been on his line most of the time
3. Drai plays the best players ALWAYS. When he's on McD's or when not

Now it's hilarious to see fans and media suddenly act like none of this happened before the last few games. Even more so, it's hilarious to see ppl saying this is brilliant coaching by Knob

2 months ago when Drai was saddled to these 4th line wingers it was "what did Drai do to piss Knobby off?"

As of today...it's "what amazing adjustments by Knobby"

Yes, I'm actually agreed. Because regular season is much of nothng. You want your star players to have an opportunity to produce have some fun, To me its a bit off to play your top players with Arvid or Pods in regular season and If you've been following me I would not even have Arvid on the team period. Keep your stars happy in regular season making some noise.

Its only in playoffs that I default to specific line arrangements like having a shutdown line makes sense. Playofs is about winning it all, the ultimate everything. Regular season is only about punching ticket.

So what you see as double standard isn't necessarily the case. Its just that throug an 82 game slog give the paying fans and TV audience what they want, production, seeing stars shine etc. The season seems like forever. In the playoffs draw up lines through Strategy.

I've had no complaint about the Pods and Kap wingers for Drai in playoffs. Provided people understand Drai offense is being sacrificed to the greater good of the club winning it all.