Lmao, Pettersson hasn't scored 70 yet and Barkov has a 95pt season under his belt and played way over PPG this season with some of the best defencive stats in the league on a team like Panthers, not to mention he has just reached his prime and doesn litterally everything Pettersson does but better and has way more size, your point is not valid because while you got good depth you don't have enough high end forwards to compare, Zibanejad being the only one established at Barkov tier but only offensively.
Finland is a serious contender in Olympics next year
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Eye of Ra
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if you actually watched the highlighets of the game you would see that salo let in 4 soft goals
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Any of the 5 BIG teams can win...
* Canada has the best team.
* Americans are second best.
* Russia has weaknesses in the middle but they will me motived to ensure Ovi and Malkin go out on a high note.
* Swedes are always talented.
* The Fins are always underestimated but, at the end of the day, they are often still standing.
Has it even been assured the NHL will play at the Olympics?
* Canada has the best team.
* Americans are second best.
* Russia has weaknesses in the middle but they will me motived to ensure Ovi and Malkin go out on a high note.
* Swedes are always talented.
* The Fins are always underestimated but, at the end of the day, they are often still standing.
Has it even been assured the NHL will play at the Olympics?
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well, he's part of the team. Why didn't the Swedish team who had pushed away all comers score 4 or 5 then and make the point moot?
Again.............the TEAM failed, bottom line. Anytime a powerhouse team loses to a vastly inferior opponent it's a team failure right across the board.
Eye of Ra
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u mean finnish guys like mattiasnall and icehockeydude? saying that sweden chocked in og 2014 and that our d is so bad they cant even stop liiga players IS trolling.
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I don't think so. Finland is an awesome country.
5,500,000 people and they produce great hockey players.
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Yes, and they play one game eliminations in the Olympics as well. The point of the argument clearly was that it is ridiculous to claim that any D can "easily" shut down the Finnish D in a single elimination game.
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Aside from Barkov Sweden have more high end talent than Finland man I don’t think that is arguable. Sweden have four lines of top quality offensive players, Finland have two. Also, the Pettersson not scoring 70 is incredibly misleading since he has been about 1 PPG every single season and you know that.
Eye of Ra
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true. but what is it that make finns always bashing sweden in the most absurd ways like saying sweden chocked in og 2014 or that our d is so bad its not even good enough for liiga. its childish. you dont see swedes writing crap like that about finland.
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finnish top 6 is better than swedens, but its not huge difference. sweden have better bottom 6, but not big difference there either. finns have better goalies. we have better d.
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Eye of Ra
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so hedman, ekholm, oel, brodin, klingberg and dahlin are not good enough to play in liiga?
Im Swedish lmao, i have never bashed the Swedish d-core but claiming that they can ”easily” shut down Finland is just wrong.
Finland has 2? Lmao, aside from Barkov we have Rantanen and Aho both who are established superstars in the league, you only have Zibanejad who is at this tier, Then we got Hintz, also a PPG 1c and Teravainen almost PPG player with some of the best defensive capabilites in the game. Your arguments are laughable, not to mention Laine who yes had a downyear, still would dominate on a finnish stacked roster with big ice. Our top 6 is clearly better than yours, and your bottom 6 is more even with ours, but then again you beat us at D by a long shot.
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Barkov, Rantanen and Aho are just a statistical outlier/anomaly. In a given season top 13 Swedish forwards outscore top 13 finnish forwards including this season. We have better depth and typically more edge as well. If you then add dmen it’s not even close.
Eye of Ra
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hmm your posts are mostly about finland but ok.
yes finns have great offence so it will be hard shutting down them. and there is no denying that karlsson, dahlin and klingberg are not good in their own zone but hedman is, he really made big strides. when it comes to finlands d i think all of them are good in their own zone, perhaps not vatanen.
you did say that swedish d can not even shut down liiga players in 1 post. the 2019 game was just 1 game, if you look objectivly at swedish d there is no doubt it should be good enough to be able to shut down liiga players. that 2019 team was missing our best stay at home d btw in lindholm and brodin.
Eye of Ra
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the d part is tricky. if garpenlöv goes with dahlin + karlsson + klingberg + oel then we will be too bad in our own zone. all of finnish d are 2way or shutdown, aside of vatanen.
and finland have a great coach, we dont.
