He’s underachieving since the draft, would not be astonished at all…
Prospect Info: Filip Mesar
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Nobody is saying they know anything for sure. We are saying he’s not progressing as well as he should be and it doesn’t look good.
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No, no — you see, the Montreal Canadiens are a charity and they should just keep prospects on the books even if the prospect has been been lapped by other players and has no clear pathway to relevancy or the needs of the team.
AHL Top6 TOI is plentiful and infinite. Every prospect will get it. We can’t let go of any undersized, injury prone, behind-the-curve top6 prospect… we need to hoard them all on the off chance the Habs with Caufield in the top6 will find room for him or the famously shrimp loving NHL pay good value to trade for him…
It would be absurd for the Habs to be strategic about their contract distribution and their overall prospect development… he’s only 21, after all, he needs until like 27 or something.
Highly doubt he gets moved this summer.
His value would be likely at its lowest point since the draft, and when healthy he has shown glimpses of the talent that made him a first round pick.
He's got two more years in Laval to put it together before he team either moves him on this make room for younger top 6 prospects or he puts it together and forces his way into the NHL.
His value would be likely at its lowest point since the draft, and when healthy he has shown glimpses of the talent that made him a first round pick.
He's got two more years in Laval to put it together before he team either moves him on this make room for younger top 6 prospects or he puts it together and forces his way into the NHL.
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Crazy how his D+1 reflect how he is currently playing right now. I remember to read many poster back in the days. : " he is playing in Kitchener, this is a bad team. "He is not playing with the right teammates". ". He needs to adapt since pro league in slovakia". I also read. "he is playing too intelligent for his linemates".
I hope we understand now. A bad D+1 in junior league is a really really bad sign. This is not true that every prospect with good pedigree in junior like Kidney/Roy will succeed. But having a bad D+1 is really bad. Like another exemple, I would say Colby Barlow is a next flop.
I hope we understand now. A bad D+1 in junior league is a really really bad sign. This is not true that every prospect with good pedigree in junior like Kidney/Roy will succeed. But having a bad D+1 is really bad. Like another exemple, I would say Colby Barlow is a next flop.
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If there is a deal out there to get us a 2c and he is the prospect that needs to be moved to get it done, I won't lose sleep over it..
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I mean, who really knows? All that stuff could have been true. He's had how many injuries since being drafted? His development is behind due to the injuries.
He started this year on absolute fire. Then got hurt long-term. The interruption usually hurts most players.
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Reinbacher is always injured and I still believe he is going to be a stud. Injury isnt an excuse to everything. He played and his production was clearly below what we expected. You cannot to be only a Point per game in junior. This make no sense.
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Mesar had 50 pts in 51 games with kitchener in his first season and
The best player kitchener that year was Francesco Pinelli who had 90 pts in 60 games.
Pinelli's first AHL year he produced 20 pts in 67 games. Mesar is at 15 in 37 games.
Many said he was bad in kitchener. But how come hes doing better than his best teammate? Mesar got relegated to the third line in kitchener that year mid way through.
The best player kitchener that year was Francesco Pinelli who had 90 pts in 60 games.
Pinelli's first AHL year he produced 20 pts in 67 games. Mesar is at 15 in 37 games.
Many said he was bad in kitchener. But how come hes doing better than his best teammate? Mesar got relegated to the third line in kitchener that year mid way through.
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Hins77
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Pinnelli
D1 he was PPG in the OHL
d2 he got 90 pts
I am more concern about D1 than D2, cause this is a normal thing to produce that much.
Most of the time. Top 6 player in the NHL are oustanding at D1
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There's players who have scored less than a PPG in juniors and end up good.
And Reinbacher is a fantastic prospect, but his injuries have no doubt slowed him down. I don't believe they haven't.
Regardless, I'm not ready to give up on a prospect so quickly.
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Europeans dont always have good D1s
My point though is that kitchener had relegated Mesar to the third line. They dint even try to develop him. Thry were focusing on Pinelli the whole time he was there.
Mesar’s problems were mental.
Like montreal has said some figure it out some dont.
We’ll see if he does.
Yeah, they overwhelmingly end up as stay-at-home D and bottom-six role players. Mesar is obviously not the former, and doesn’t have the skillset, size, or tendencies to be the latter.
So Kitchener did that, Laval is also doing that, and I and others on here hate him, according to you. Wow, the world really must have it out for the poor kid.
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Like who? I am not talking about stay at home Dman, but top 6 forward in the NHL..
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How did Hudon get brought into this? They don't compare at all imo, Hudon crushed it in his first pro season, he started out among the top scorers in the league and had the rookie scoring lead until later in the season as he faded over time. He was a 5th round pick that played over 100 NHL games and had over 40 points, when you look at the success rate of 5th round picks, how can anyone complain about Hudon.
Mesar as a 1st round will get much more hype but he has similar problems to that of Ylonen when he turned pro, soft, weak physically, inconsistent efforts. He's clearly shown improvement from his D+1 as you just need to go back to my vids of his games and you will see him half ass plays, not try, look disinterested at times, then watch my Laval vids this year and you will see him blocking shots, throwing hits (he's terrible at it) so while he's still not consistently doing those things, the fact that he is doing those things at least some of the time is a step in the right direction.
No one can say what will happen, which is why I always say that too many around here are too quick to start throwing out the bust word. Take Hudon, if you want to compare him to a current Laval player, Riley Kidney comes to mind. Clearly Kidney has had a much worse go of it then Hudon did as all prospects that lack height, mass, strength, skating and speed have a massive hill to climb. If you just bet against all of them you would look smart most of the time but again it's impossible to know how these kids will develop over time. They could hire a skating coach that just happens to figure out how to help them or they hit the gym way harder then anyone thought possible, etc...
Mesar as a 1st round will get much more hype but he has similar problems to that of Ylonen when he turned pro, soft, weak physically, inconsistent efforts. He's clearly shown improvement from his D+1 as you just need to go back to my vids of his games and you will see him half ass plays, not try, look disinterested at times, then watch my Laval vids this year and you will see him blocking shots, throwing hits (he's terrible at it) so while he's still not consistently doing those things, the fact that he is doing those things at least some of the time is a step in the right direction.
No one can say what will happen, which is why I always say that too many around here are too quick to start throwing out the bust word. Take Hudon, if you want to compare him to a current Laval player, Riley Kidney comes to mind. Clearly Kidney has had a much worse go of it then Hudon did as all prospects that lack height, mass, strength, skating and speed have a massive hill to climb. If you just bet against all of them you would look smart most of the time but again it's impossible to know how these kids will develop over time. They could hire a skating coach that just happens to figure out how to help them or they hit the gym way harder then anyone thought possible, etc...
Gotta give it to the guy for standing his position lmfao. He’s all in on not wanting to admit he was wrong, respect.
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Without thinking... James Neal. He was over a PPG in his D+2 year but Mesar was also over a PPG in his final year. Overall Neal was under a PPG.
He's scored the 240th most goals in NHL history and ranks #461 all-time in NHL points. So I'd classify him as a pretty solid Top-6 player in most of his career.
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You found the exceptions of the rule. Congrats. Im gonna make an homework. Im gonna find every top 6 players in the NHL and look at their junior stats. I will come back with how many was under PPG. I would say Powerforward or big players are sometimes different species cause they trend to developp slowly over small player like Mesar. But overall, they explose their junior stats at the beginning of their D1
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Edmonton should trade for him, I bet he would do much better riding shotgun for McDavid. The superstar in him would certainly be unleashed on the league.
I think it's fair to say it was a back pick. Still has a chance to make it to the NHL but the chance is slim.
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He's the only player who could keep up offensively with Demidov, make plays plays with him and feed him pucks on the second line.
Its like DD, came straight from the ECHL to play Center with Max in the NHL
But hey, i bet you don't believe me ?
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