Player Discussion Filip Chytil

[PuckMunchkin]

@JT Milker

Yes.

That would make him a low end 2nd line centre.

Like... what do you think you just accomplished?


Also. The likelyhood of his production going up with our system and inability to move the puck on the D end is low.

 

[WetcoastOrca]

I’d be astounded if he started dropping 60 point seasons. That would be a huge win.

Agreed. It would be a bit like the JT Miller trade when we acquired him but Miller was a legitimate first line guy just not getting the minutes and PP time because of a really deep team. The Rangers aren’t nearly as deep and Chytil is unlikely to get PP1 time.

 

[shotvalley]

Just looked up so speed stats.
Mancini and M.Pettersson are below 50 percentile.
Deharnais was at 62 percentile
Chytil at 92
O'Connor at 90 percentile

Pettersson (C) - under 50

I guess with the system and more defensive type play is should be expected that the team as a whole is below 50 percentile. Slower than half the teams in the league but that ranking is the lowest they give so where they would rank out of all the teams is a guess just tied with 17 to 32.

Where i can see these speed stats?

 

[PuckMunchkin]

Where i can see these speed stats?

NHL Edge tracks a lot of this stuff

 

[bobbyb2009]

Looks like both of his eyes are lazy

Yeah- kind of an awkward looking dude. Maybe its is like his eyes are scrambled as much as huis brains have been said to have been.

Crossing my fingers that he has the upside that lots of people thinks he does and he can stay healthy here, but that face.... Yikes

 

[God]

i know they're both from czechia but it's really funny how he sounds exactly like hronek

 

[AlainVigneaultsGum]

Insane debut. Coulda had two or three more points. If this is what we get from him going forward he's a good 2C.

 

[docbenton]

Size, speed, skill, even won a lot of faceoffs tonight. Pretty dominant debut. Everything you'd want in a top 6 center. I always thought he's not far off from someone like Necas, just needed health and opportunity.

 

[Ernie]

Insane debut. Coulda had two or three more points. If this is what we get from him going forward he's a good 2C.

I can just imagine Hughes hitting with him with passes at speed.

 

[Knight53]

He makes the games much more fun to watch that’s for sure. Fantastic transition speed and skill with size.

 

[ephmrl]

Given his history it's wild to see how fearless he is at skating through the middle of the ice with the puck at high speed.

 

[SillyRabbit]

He looked better than I expected.

I think the issue with him will be less about his play, but rather more about whether he can stay healthy.

 

[Grifter3511]

I agree that a 60 point player would be a decent 2C.
And I know that the assumption of this thread is that he improves to 60 points.
But it should be noted that so far his best on pace for season is around 50 points.
A lot will depend on his linemates and PP and of course health. Realistically I expect 50 points unless we can acquire another top 6 player to play with him.

His 50 pt pace he averaged under 15 minutes of ice time per game. I'd like to think a full time 2nd line C gets him at least 3 more minutes of ice time?

Is 3 minutes across 82 games enought for a 10-15 pt bump?

 

[LordBacon]

Looks like both of his eyes are lazy

Explains his on ice vision

 

[LordBacon]

I can understand why some NYR fans said he’s on the cusp of breakout.

Looked pretty good to me.

 

[Raspewtin]

Given his history it's wild to see how fearless he is at skating through the middle of the ice with the puck at high speed.

that's just who he is. a CVS receipt load of injuries but he has never changed his game to avoid contact or dirty areas.

love u Fil

 

[smoneil]

He looked better than I expected.

I think the issue with him will be less about his play, but rather more about whether he can stay healthy.

This is Chytil in a nut shell.

He made the team in his draft year as a late 1st rounder--only 17 years old.
Early on, he tried to dangle his way through too many players and coughed up the puck way too much. He was sent to the AHL and embraced it. There were several times where--after seeming to earn a bigger role, the Rangers went out and brought in an outside player to keep him in the bottom 6 (re-signing Strome and then bringing in Trocheck). Chytil never complained. Kid's a workhorse, always trying to improve. The last news we had on him before the trade was about how he planned to work with his trainers over the all star break.

Over the last 8 seasons, he's learned to pick his moments on the dangling, uses his teammates much more effectively, and can make plays in tight spaces better than most in the league.

The downside to all of that basically comes down to two things:

1- He's never really been good at winning faceoffs.
2- The concussion history is the elephant in the room.

On the concussion history, he seems to always get hurt right when he's got some momentum going. It's tantalizing and frustrating all rolled into one.

That said, if he can stay healthy, even after 8 seasons, there's still room for the kid to grow. He was barely on the PP in NY (second unit got scrap minutes) and he was never tried on the PK (with his speed, I really think he could be deadly on a PK unit). You got a good one in Chytil.

I hope he has a long and amazing career. The kid deserves it.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

He looked better than I expected.

I think the issue with him will be less about his play, but rather more about whether he can stay healthy.

Yeah thats basically it. There was a point last year where it looked like his career was in jeopardy and the truth is he's one moderate knock away from that becoming a reality.

But he always generated chances in NY no matter who he played with. He's streaky AF, bordering on infuriatingly so but he doesn't really go long stretches with out playing well but he does have a tendency to go ice cold despite being in the middle of a ton of scoring chances. I'd rather that than someone who scores a bunch over 7 games and then completely f***s off for the next 10.

But he's good and is only really being held back from being very good because of the concussion history. Hope he is able to have a long career and a normal life once he's done playing.

 

[F A N]

I think he has come as advertised. Reading Rangers’ fans comments prior to the trade it sounds like he has come into this season better than ever but the issue with him is that one injury setback and he can either take time to get his game back to where it was or worse he’s out for an indefinite period of time.

I think if Chytil stays healthy he’s a 2C most of us like. If not, he’s a liability who we can’t count on playing.

 

[David71]

reminds me of a power forward once upon a time. david booth lots of speed and hands but injuries riddled him especially concussions. hopefully thats all behind chytil now, he can absolutey fly down the middle.

 

[F A N]

reminds me of a power forward once upon a time. david booth lots of speed and hands but injuries riddled him especially concussions. hopefully thats all behind chytil now, he can absolutey fly down the middle.

I think there's a difference. Booth was never the same after a violent concussion but I don't think he was prone to concussion symptoms as a Canuck and after. Chytil it seems can be out with innocent looking hits (like Ferland).

I think Booth is more of a north south powerforward than Chytil. Skill wise, I think Chytil has better hands and the better puck carrier.

I think another issue with Booth is that he prefers lifting weights and hunting to hockey specific training. Chytil works hard at improving his game.

 

[pld459666]

Happy that he scored. Happy that he put forth a good effort.

As I said in the trade thread, I think you guys are gonna be happy with the player.

Hes solid

 

[theguardianII]

Where i can see these speed stats?

NHL EDGE