Proposal: Fiala to Anaheim

[Digitalbooya]

You consider Addison a "top defensive prospect"?

He was our top defensive prospect prior to the 2021 NHL draft.

 

[Crazy8oooo]

I'd really question Verbeek's competence if he acquires Fiala and signs him to an expensive long-term deal after letting go of Lindholm, Manson, and Rakell for not wanting to sign them to expensive long-term deals.

Not only that, but by trading off those players it essentially indicated his intention to rebuild rather than try to contented in the immediate. A move like this would put them right back to being too good for a top pick but not good enough to contend.

 

[flyerslducks]

I don’t know that that is actually the case. The last lockout there were a number of teams wanting to limit all contracts to a 5 year max. Granted, I wanted Rakell gone 3 years ago.

Time will tell. There’s a lot of weirdness right now between the rumors of Verbeek not even talking to several of the player’s agents and the massive coaching purge.

Ah I didnt know those rumors. Tbh I follow flyers a lot more but instill like the ducks a lot haha. But ya I don’t think ducks even need to sign anyone to a 8yr deal unless it’s for zegras or a young stud like fiala.

 

[Crazy8oooo]

Rakell is a 29 yo who had a 41 pt year
Manson is a 30 yo defensive dman
Lindholm is a 28 yo with injury problems - vg player though

Fiala is a 25 yo who just had an 85 pt. season, even though he was playing with garbage for half the year.

Do you not see the difference?


I agree.

This is the Eichel thread all over again. Why would the Ducks, who are not a Kevin Fiala away from being a contender, trade away a top pick and players who project to be top 6 forwards for said player? They need multiple pieces to be a contender again and trading what could amount to be 3 of those needed pieces for one doesn’t seem very smart.

Regarding those 3 being older or not as good, they were still top players on this team and by trading them off, indicates Verbeeks vision of rebuilding rather than trying to contend.

Getting Fiala does nothing for them except prolong the rebuild. They’d still be missing multiple pieces.

 

[BuiumSaveUs]

You consider Addison a "top defensive prospect"?

A defense prospect with Top 4 potential

 

[57special]

This is the Eichel thread all over again. Why would the Ducks, who are not a Kevin Fiala away from being a contender, trade away a top pick and players who project to be top 6 forwards for said player? They need multiple pieces to be a contender again and trading what could amount to be 3 of those needed pieces for one doesn’t seem very smart.

Regarding those 3 being older or not as good, they were still top players on this team and by trading them off, indicates Verbeeks vision of rebuilding rather than trying to contend.

Getting Fiala does nothing for them except prolong the rebuild. They’d still be missing multiple pieces.

Fiala does not have to undergo major neck surgery with a problematic outcome.

 

[Static]

Yes and no. He can just go to arbitration and be unrestricted at the end of the awarded contract.

He could, but I think those intentions would be known before a trade of this magnitude was completed.

This is the Eichel thread all over again. Why would the Ducks, who are not a Kevin Fiala away from being a contender, trade away a top pick and players who project to be top 6 forwards for said player? They need multiple pieces to be a contender again and trading what could amount to be 3 of those needed pieces for one doesn’t seem very smart.

Regarding those 3 being older or not as good, they were still top players on this team and by trading them off, indicates Verbeeks vision of rebuilding rather than trying to contend.

Getting Fiala does nothing for them except prolong the rebuild. They’d still be missing multiple pieces.

Rebuilding teams can't have a core that is all the same age and on the same development curve. Fiala is at an age where he will still be elite when the team is ready to compete for regular playoff runs and we are in a unique position throughout the league to both absorb his salary with ease and fulfill Minnesota's desire for futures.

 

[Ducks DVM]

He could, but I think those intentions would be known before a trade of this magnitude was completed.


Rebuilding teams can't have a core that is all the same age and on the same development curve. Fiala is at an age where he will still be elite when the team is ready to compete for regular playoff runs and we are in a unique position throughout the league to both absorb his salary with ease and fulfill Minnesota's desire for futures.

Agreed, but you’d suspect the price for Fiala to waste the first 3 years of that contract out of the playoffs is going to reflect that. He’s going to most likely be 29-30 before the team is a legitimate playoff contender, assuming that everything goes well with player development.

 

[Gliff]

He was our top defensive prospect prior to the 2021 NHL draft.

I wouldnt say that is a “top defensive prospect”.

He may have been the Pens/wild top defensive prospect, but he was a top prospect in the context of the league.

 

[Digitalbooya]

I would say that is a “top defensive prospect”.

He may have been the Pens/wild top defensive prospect, but he was a top prospect in the context of the league.

I mean he’s not pre NHL Makar. He was the best prospect Pittsburgh could offer at the time. Fiala is wayyyy better than Zucker, which is why there are Ottawa fans offering 7OA+ and there were NJD fans offering 5OA prior to them moving up to second overall.

 

[Crazy8oooo]

Fiala does not have to undergo major neck surgery with a problematic outcome.

Did you conveniently gloss over everything in my comment after the Eichel part? However, even Eichel needing neck surgery would be more enticing than Fiala, given what fans are asking for him.

 

[Crazy8oooo]

He could, but I think those intentions would be known before a trade of this magnitude was completed.


Rebuilding teams can't have a core that is all the same age and on the same development curve. Fiala is at an age where he will still be elite when the team is ready to compete for regular playoff runs and we are in a unique position throughout the league to both absorb his salary with ease and fulfill Minnesota's desire for futures.

Rebuilding teams don’t usually make moves like that, however, when they need multiple pieces to contend. You’re adding one by subtracting 3. If they were already done rebuilding and ready to contend then it would make much more sense.

Btw, it’s questionable as to whether Fiala is even elite, much less “will still be elite” as you suggest. He’s had one elite season out of many. This could be a complete outlier.

 

[KaseMeOutside]

Anaheim is not going to pay a premium in assets and then pay him a massive contract it makes no sense for where they are

 

[Leonardo87]

Anaheim is not going to pay a premium in assets and then pay him a massive contract it makes no sense for where they are

I just don’t see Verbeek making this kind of trade. He wants to keep the picks, and plans for them to be in the NHL in 2-3 years. He will fill the team with young stop gaps that are good players and hard working. Could also see him going after cap casualty players like in the Dadonov situation.

 

[BuiumSaveUs]

Rebuilding teams don’t usually make moves like that, however, when they need multiple pieces to contend. You’re adding one by subtracting 3. If they were already done rebuilding and ready to contend then it would make much more sense.

Btw, it’s questionable as to whether Fiala is even elite, much less “will still be elite” as you suggest. He’s had one elite season out of many. This could be a complete outlier.

If you watched him the previous 2 years, you would’ve know he was always capable of doing this. It was completely about not having any linemates until Boldy came this year. He still put up 65-70 point paces in those season, too.

 

[tomd]

There should be a Fiala to LA thread because that is the only way he ends up in Southern California.

 

[Digitalbooya]

There should be a Fiala to LA thread because that is the only way he ends up in Southern California.

Please no.

 

[keppel146]

No to the edited offer

 

[rockinghockey]

Been a while but when was the last time a player got a top 10 pick in the draft and add a ++. I can’t remember one.

 

[wraparound]

meh. GMPV will just offer sheet him instead

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Been a while but when was the last time a player got a top 10 pick in the draft and add a ++. I can’t remember one.

Ya i feel like minnasota keeps him... or minnasota fans get a lot less then they are hoping for.

I like fiala and would love for him to end up in Anaheim... but i dont think id pay some of these prices.

 

[Bazeek]

Ya i feel like minnasota keeps him... or minnasota fans get a lot less then they are hoping for.

I like fiala and would love for him to end up in Anaheim... but i dont think id pay some of these prices.

The chances of Guerin keeping him are minuscule.

The chances of Guerin getting less than Wild fans are hoping for is substantial.

 

[anezthes]

To Anaheim: Kevin Fiala

To Minnesota: 10th overall, Jacob Perreault, Max Comtois

Contingent on fiala willing to sign long-term with Anaheim.

*Edited to:

Minnesota: 23rd overall, Jacob Perreault, '24 2nd round pick

Anaheim: Fiala

No, thanks.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

The chances of Guerin keeping him are minuscule.

The chances of Guerin getting less than Wild fans are hoping for is substantial.

Ya I think fiala is worth more than last years RFA…. But how much more is the question.


On the same token I’d feel much more comfortable dealing 10 for fiala, once we see what 1-9 look like