Proposal: Fiala to Anaheim

[Static]

To Anaheim: Kevin Fiala

To Minnesota: 10th overall, Jacob Perreault, Max Comtois

Contingent on fiala willing to sign long-term with Anaheim.

*Edited to:

Minnesota: 23rd overall, Jacob Perreault, '24 2nd round pick

Anaheim: Fiala

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[AKL]

Even with an extension that feels like an overpayment from Anaheim

 

[Jesus comma Brodin]

Yes please, I’d absolutely do this. But I agree with @AKL here. This is likely an overpayment.

 

[nbducksfan19]

I would think it could be #24 + Perrault + Comtois

I personally don't want to trade Comtois, as I think he will rebound after a year of immaturity. Id rather do something like:

#24 + Perrault + 2nd

 

[Mrfenn92]

Ducks say no

 

[Leonardo87]

That’s way too much for the Ducks for a pending RFA. Looking at something around what Buchnevich and Reinhart got, maybe a little more.

Obviously an extension would have to be agreed with Fiala’s camp to make this work.

 

[bsu]

No.

 

[Static]

I'm surprised people think this is too much to be honest. 25 year olds coming off 85 point seasons are extremely rare on the market.

Edited to 23rd overall + Perreault + Boston '24 2nd

That’s way too much for the Ducks for a pending RFA. Looking at something around what Buchnevich and Reinhart got, maybe a little more.

Obviously an extension would have to be agreed with Fiala’s camp to make this work.

Yeah, trade would be contingent on a long-term extension.

 

[Jesus comma Brodin]

I think Anaheim is a good fit for him, I don’t think there would be any issue with him being willing to sign a good deal. Young exciting players add an 80-point player in his prime could be all around.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

I think Anaheim is a good fit for him, I don’t think there would be any issue with him being willing to sign a good deal. Young exciting players add an 80-point player in his prime could be all around.

Would really give our top 6 some great skill.

Zegras fiala
Mctavish terry

Fill in lw with hard worker/physical types

To Anaheim: Kevin Fiala

To Minnesota: 10th overall, Jacob Perreault, Max Comtois

Contingent on fiala willing to sign long-term with Anaheim.

*Edited to:

Minnesota: 23rd overall, Jacob Perreault, '24 2nd round pick

Anaheim: Fiala

1st part seems pretty high from Anaheim.

2nd 1 is prob in the ball park from both sides, tho minnasota could prob get a higher pick if that is their big goal…. With Anaheim they don’t have to take cap back…. Which could be a big selling point.

 

[Dickie Dunn]

24ov is low, some team will beat that.

 

[Djp]

I'm surprised people think this is too much to be honest. 25 year olds coming off 85 point seasons are extremely rare on the market.

Edited to 23rd overall + Perreault + Boston '24 2nd


Yeah, trade would be contingent on a long-term extension.

there is bias on who he’s playing with and dtyle ogpf play.

a 25 yr old UFA to be inn1 yr dies not get a top 10 pick.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Does #24 + Perreault beat #7 if it's on the table from Ottawa? Probably not.

#10 and a swap of 2nd round picks? Much more likely.

 

[Static]

there is bias on who he’s playing with and dtyle ogpf play.

a 25 yr old UFA to be inn1 yr dies not get a top 10 pick.

Its a little misleading to characterize fiala as a rental though. If any trade involving these types of assets is consummated I'm fairly certain a long term deal will shortly follow.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Does #24 + Perreault beat #7 if it's on the table from Ottawa? Probably not.

#10 and a swap of 2nd round picks? Much more likely.

I think that prob depends on if minnasota like any of our prospects + 24…. Obviously mctavish and zellweger prob too much for fiala.

10 + small additions makes sense, but I think Anaheim would wait and see how the draft falls before moving the 10, I do see a lhd or 2 going in too 10, which means a pretty good forward could drop to 10 for our taking.

24 + 43 + Perreault vs 7 overall is prob pretty close depending on your opinion of perreault, but I imagine it’s easier for minnasota to just take 7…. Obviously that also assumes ott will want to pay fialas contract , which I assume is questionable by itself

Personally if I’m Anaheim I prob wait it out and see if any of those teams are offering that high of a pick…. I’d personally be shocked if ott trades 7 for fiala given how much fiala is about to make

 

[Djp]

Its a little misleading to characterize fiala as a rental though. If any trade involving these types of assets is consummated I'm fairly certain a long term deal will shortly follow.

give actual examples of players getting know top 10 picks in trades and factor into that team control.

Oreilly is better than Fiala and younger than Zfiala when he was traded.

in return he got 2 recent mid 1st round picks, another prospect drafted high in 2 nd ,and a 2nd round pick that today would be a very late 1st. This return was tied to him signing an extension. There was no top 10 pick nor a player drafted in top 10.

even in Eichel trade there was top 10 protection on the 1st.

The trade return on here is not realistic.

even if a long term contract come with it the return us more likeky going to be

1st rounder in mid 20s+ a recent mid/ late 1st on an ELC+ a recent 2nd round picked prospect starting or finished year 1 of an ELC+salaried player. Of course a higher 1st round pick then the prospects are lowered or if the contracted player is better than the prospects are lower. If the pick is a high 2 nd thrn they get better prospects.

in the ROR trade…

ROR player for Grigorenko(12) +Zadorov (16)+ 2nd (31 OA)+ Compher (38)
if Colorado instead on pick #21OA in that draft then the deal likeky woukd have bern something like. Grigirenko+21+Pysyk+ Baptiste/ Bailey ( drafted late 2nd and early 3rd)

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

give actual examples of players getting know top 10 picks in trades and factor into that team control.

Oreilly is better than Fiala and younger than Zfiala when he was traded.

in return he got 2 recent mid 1st round picks, another prospect drafted high in 2 nd ,and a 2nd round pick that today would be a very late 1st. This return was tied to him signing an extension. There was no top 10 pick nor a player drafted in top 10.

even in Eichel trade there was top 10 protection on the 1st.

The trade return on here is not realistic.

even if a long term contract come with it the return us more likeky going to be

1st rounder in mid 20s+ a recent mid/ late 1st on an ELC+ a recent 2nd round picked prospect starting or finished year 1 of an ELC+salaried player. Of course a higher 1st round pick then the prospects are lowered or if the contracted player is better than the prospects are lower. If the pick is a high 2 nd thrn they get better prospects.

in the ROR trade…

ROR player for Grigorenko(12) +Zadorov (16)+ 2nd (31 OA)+ Compher (38)
if Colorado instead on pick #21OA in that draft then the deal likeky woukd have bern something like. Grigirenko+21+Pysyk+ Baptiste/ Bailey ( drafted late 2nd and early 3rd)

And every Buffalo fan that I can remember hated that trade. Maybe the goal shouldn't be to re-create a trade that almost universally mocked at the time.

Fiala's value isn't what O'Reilly got 5 years ago. It's what a team is willing to pay today.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

And every Buffalo fan that I can remember hated that trade. Maybe the goal shouldn't be to re-create a trade that almost universally mocked at the time.

Fiala's value isn't what O'Reilly got 5 years ago. It's what a team is willing to pay today.

Which is undefined…. We don’t actually know of ott would offer 7, or Anaheim would offer 10.

I think fiala is def worth either of those picks, but idk that any team would actually offer them yet, I’m interested in what his final cost would be

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Which is undefined…. We don’t actually know of ott would offer 7, or Anaheim would offer 10.

I think fiala is def worth either of those picks, but idk that any team would actually offer them yet, I’m interested in what his final cost would be

I'll admit, I don't have the highest of confidences that Guerin is going to get any of these pieces. I'm actually pretty afraid of what it's going to end up being. It's just the only type of stuff that would make me think about it, and if it's not in the cards, I'd much rather do my alternative plan, which would be to trade Dumba this summer + Zuccarello next summer, and re-sign Fiala.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

I'll admit, I don't have the highest of confidences that Guerin is going to get any of these pieces. I'm actually pretty afraid of what it's going to end up being. It's just the only type of stuff that would make me think about it, and if it's not in the cards, I'd much rather do my alternative plan, which would be to trade Dumba this summer + Zuccarello next summer, and re-sign Fiala.

I actually am surprised that isn’t The plan either way…. Unless fialas demands are high, or he isn’t interested in signing there long term.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

I actually am surprised that isn’t The plan either way…. Unless fialas demands are high, or he isn’t interested in signing there long term.

As far as we understand, it's Guerin balking at Fiala being here long-term, not Fiala. We also don't have a great idea as to what Fiala's demands are, other than contract length, but we know it's more than 3 x $6M because that's the rumor of highest that Guerin offered, and it was (reportedly) "not close". But we're not sure if that's more on the year or the dollars.

 

[57special]

If #10 is too high for ANA then there is nothing to discuss. This is not a draft with a ton of high end players.

And of course, the team trading for Fiala would be permitted to talk contract before the deal is consummated.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

If #10 is too high for ANA then there is nothing to discuss. This is not a draft with a ton of high end players.

And of course, the team trading for Fiala would be permitted to talk contract before the deal is consummated.

What teams are realistically offering 10 tho?

Maybe ott…. But I imagine that’s very hopeful

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

What teams are realistically offering 10 tho?

Maybe ott…. But I imagine that’s very hopeful

Ottawa - #7
Anaheim - #10
New Jersey - Holtz

I'd consider all of these to be in the same ballpark. If none are available and Fiala isn't on our team next year, then our GM is probably dumb.

 

[Digitalbooya]

What teams are realistically offering 10 tho?

Maybe ott…. But I imagine that’s very hopeful

If Anaheim's trade package starts with #24 I imagine that's a hang up the phone and wait for something else.