filip85
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I would give game speed to EHM, and add player development which would go to FHM. Agree with others.
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I would give game speed to EHM, and add player development which would go to FHM. Agree with others.
FHM7 took a huge step forward in simulation, but I'd agree with Pukovnik about game speed, it's still pretty far behind EHM in that regard.
archibalduk
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I think this is such a subjective question and depends on what league(s) you're looking to play and what you're looking to get out of a hockey sim. In an ideal world, I'd implore people to buy both games (EHM is regularly on sale for $5 and FHM does get discounted eventually) but I know not everybody has the funds to do so. The more we can support both games, the better for all of us.
I do like that this is even worthy of debate as it shows that both games continue to have appeal and relevance. IMO you can't go too far wrong with either game.
I do like that this is even worthy of debate as it shows that both games continue to have appeal and relevance. IMO you can't go too far wrong with either game.
Paul4587
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I would add player development and ageing and give that a huge advantage to FHM. In EHM you regularly get players putting up career bests well into their 30s. Most of the time the scoring leaderboard is dominated by 30+ year olds. If you draft a player who is a star at 20 you can pretty much keep him for the next 20 years and know he will almost be as good in his mid to late 30s as he was his early to mid 20s.
I have enjoyed FHM7 so far. I much prefer the new scouting system. Being able to filter by ratings in the player search screen feels great. The researchers have done some interesting work this year using the offensive and defensive read attributes more liberally to represent "no toolbox" players.
If you're an FHM skeptic, I'd recommend watchful waiting. If they can get the new match engine to work as advertised, that's a leap into the stratosphere for this series and a reason to give the games another try.
If you're an FHM skeptic, I'd recommend watchful waiting. If they can get the new match engine to work as advertised, that's a leap into the stratosphere for this series and a reason to give the games another try.
I recently got FHM 7 and am pretty impressed with the set up. I am struggling with player evaluation quite a bit and have noticed some unrealistic player performances. I am in 2nd season as GM of Ottawa. My goalies and D stink (realistic) but I traded away Murray and a random ECHL guy I had under contract. Murray is now thriving in Edmonton (sure I guess), but the ECHL guy went to PHI and they're using him in tandem with Hart. 15 games in he leads the league in SV% and GAA. He shouldn't even be in the NHL. A number of other "no name" goalies are in the NHL with great stats.
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I've found evaluating goalies to be pretty much a crapshoot. It might be worth it just to run with a couple two-star draftees on sub-million dollars deals and spend the money elsewhere - as long as your defense and tactics are up to snuff, you'll probably be fine.
The speed issue is variable, I have a fairly up-to-date laptop but can't run anything other than NHL, AHL,CHL in EHM. In FHM, I can run every serious league in NA and Europe - I'm not a technical person but understand it's a 'threading' issue with EHM, due to its age. Some computers don't suffer with it though.
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Very true, despite personally favouring FHM these days, I think it speaks volumes that EHM still has such a core following and that Riz still continues to invest time into the game.
filip85
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Back in FHM 4 or 5 I played with Montreal from 1917. until 80-s. It was fun, but after some time it can become dull if you play with draft rookies instead of generate it, as you always can "prepare" yourself for strong drafts by acquiring picks.
I would recommend either taking weak (or expansion) teams with drafting, or taking strong team like Montreal with "generate rookies" and try to match or surpass historical results.
VC
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Figured I'd give this a go again, hadn't played since FHM3. Seems like a work has been done, runs smoother than I remember. Is it still possible to have the expansion draft?
Has anyone more or less figured out when players reach their max star potential? I have a bunch of guys who are still projected to grow but are reaching 23-24. I find that there are a lot of guys notable names that don't become NHL and stop developing in the AHL. Some examples, Kyrou, Pinto, Rossi even Stuetlze. They reach 2 star but as offensive forwards can't make the top 6 and then suck on the 4th line. If I leave them in the AHL they don't increase either.
These are 3.5-4 star potential players just dying out at 2 stars. It's not just me either, those type of guys are constantly on waivers.
Anyone else seeing this and/or have advice?
These are 3.5-4 star potential players just dying out at 2 stars. It's not just me either, those type of guys are constantly on waivers.
Anyone else seeing this and/or have advice?
KnightAttack
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If you're having issues developing them, you're probably doing a couple things;
(1) Are you training them enough? They should be getting max training to help get them to their top level as fast as they can.
(2) Underplaying them. Players with high potential should be playing 15+ minutes a night. That means minimum 2nd line and some special teams.
(3) Did you change Stats Percentages with Stars? Because that could affect it.
Not everyone will turn out though. That's just the way it is. But if some guys get rushed they may never become quite the guy you thought they would either.
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Very helpful. Clears a lot up. Not to sound pushy, I realize the work that goes into these updates, but can we expect an update soon? Just curious if I should wait to start a new game.
KnightAttack
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We decided to have an open beta for our next update. If you'd like to join and test, check our forums.
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Does this apply for prospects in historical mode as well (no farm team to give them top minutes)?
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They will still get a good boost by being in the minors rather than sitting on the bench.
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