Proposal: Fansided Website

[maplejays62]

These trade proposals were on the website:

Leafs get J. Trouba
Jets get JVR, C. Carrick and a 2017 2nd

Leafs get J. Trouba
Jets get J. Gardiner, C. Carrick, K. Kapenen

Leafs get J. Trouba
Jets get M. Marner and a 2017 2nd

Leafs get J. Trouba, E. Comrie, D. Stafford
Jets get JVR, C. Carrick, K. Kapenen, M. Marincin and a 2017 2nd

Would love the last proposal. Let the discussion begin

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[Liferleafer]

I would pass on every one of them...Marner? And we add?? Lol

 

[Twoods1623]

This seems like a trend but correct me if I'm wrong but it seems like any trade involving the leafs is so one sided for the leafs it's crazy. Sorry leafs fans if that isn't true but that's all I've seen so far on this site. If you want a player like Trouba you have one of Nylander or Marner and add a fair amount from there.

 

[iBELEAF]

LOL pass

 

[Liferleafer]

This seems like a trend but correct me if I'm wrong but it seems like any trade involving the leafs is so one sided for the leafs it's crazy. Sorry leafs fans if that isn't true but that's all I've seen so far on this site. If you want a player like Trouba you have one of Nylander or Marner and add a fair amount from there.

Wow...you better get Trouba signed to a Rielly type contract first. There is ZERO chance you get Nylander or Marner....and adding from there? Naybe i am missing something, what in the Blue Hell has Trouba done to warrant these type of deals?

I guess this explains why he asked to be traded in May, and nothing has happened. ...no GM is going to bend over like that.

 

[RoadWarrior]

This seems like a trend but correct me if I'm wrong but it seems like any trade involving the leafs is so one sided for the leafs it's crazy. Sorry leafs fans if that isn't true but that's all I've seen so far on this site. If you want a player like Trouba you have one of Nylander or Marner and add a fair amount from there.

With Zaitsev emerging as an elite RHD there isn't enough urgency or desperation to make that kind of trade. Even Andrew Nielsen is impressing in camp.

It's obvious that the jets are the ones overvaluing Trouba because he's been on the trade market for 5 months with no takers.

 

[Poignant Discussion*]

This seems like a trend but correct me if I'm wrong but it seems like any trade involving the leafs is so one sided for the leafs it's crazy. Sorry leafs fans if that isn't true but that's all I've seen so far on this site. If you want a player like Trouba you have one of Nylander or Marner and add a fair amount from there.

I'll have whatever you are smoking

 

[internetdotcom]

This seems like a trend but correct me if I'm wrong but it seems like any trade involving the leafs is so one sided for the leafs it's crazy. Sorry leafs fans if that isn't true but that's all I've seen so far on this site. If you want a player like Trouba you have one of Nylander or Marner and add a fair amount from there.

I see you are new here, so welcome. What you are seeing is not just a trend, but more of a given fact on these boards. You will get sick of seeing it before very long.

Wow...you better get Trouba signed to a Rielly type contract first. There is ZERO chance you get Nylander or Marner....and adding from there? Naybe i am missing something, what in the Blue Hell has Trouba done to warrant these type of deals?

I guess this explains why he asked to be traded in May, and nothing has happened. ...no GM is going to bend over like that.

If you had actually been following the story, Trouba wanting out has zero to do with a contract dispute. It has to do with him wanting to play top 4 D on the right side. You are also very highly underrating Trouba.

With Zaitsev emerging as an elite RHD there isn't enough urgency or desperation to make that kind of trade. Even Andrew Nielsen is impressing in camp.

It's obvious that the jets are the ones overvaluing Trouba because he's been on the trade market for 5 months with no takers.

What? LOL What has Zaitsev done in the NHL to show that he is even an NHL regular, let alone an ELITE Dman!? You really think Zaitsev is 'emerging' to be in the same class as guys like Karlsson and Doughty? How, exactly?

With a statement like that, its truly ironic that in the very same post you are talking about other fans overvaluing THEIR player.

 

[Liferleafer]

I see you are new here, so welcome. What you are seeing is not just a trend, but more of a given fact on these boards. You will get sick of seeing it before very long.



If you had actually been following the story, Trouba wanting out has zero to do with a contract dispute. It has to do with him wanting to play top 4 D on the right side. You are also very highly underrating Trouba.



What? LOL What has Zaitsev done in the NHL to show that he is even an NHL regular, let alone an ELITE Dman!? You really think Zaitsev is 'emerging' to be in the same class as guys like Karlsson and Doughty? How, exactly?

With a statement like that, its truly ironic that in the very same post you are talking about other fans overvaluing THEIR player.

Trouba: No contract....high dollar demads....wants to dictate what side he plays on....demands a trade.

The Jets have gifted this kid 22 minutes a night and he's not happy? Ya, i am sure a player friendly coach like Babcock will handle this whiner with kid gloves and give him whatever he wants.

Keep him at the prices you are expecting.

 

[Poignant Discussion*]

I see you are new here, so welcome. What you are seeing is not just a trend, but more of a given fact on these boards. You will get sick of seeing it before very long.



If you had actually been following the story, Trouba wanting out has zero to do with a contract dispute. It has to do with him wanting to play top 4 D on the right side. You are also very highly underrating Trouba.



What? LOL What has Zaitsev done in the NHL to show that he is even an NHL regular, let alone an ELITE Dman!? You really think Zaitsev is 'emerging' to be in the same class as guys like Karlsson and Doughty? How, exactly?

With a statement like that, its truly ironic that in the very same post you are talking about other fans overvaluing THEIR player.

Why are you comparing an elite defenseman with an elite rover?

No interest in Trouba at all for Toronto

 

[internetdotcom]

Trouba: No contract....high dollar demads....wants to dictate what side he plays on....demands a trade.

The Jets have gifted this kid 22 minutes a night and he's not happy? Ya, i am sure a player friendly coach like Babcock will handle this whiner with kid gloves and give him whatever he wants.

Keep him at the prices you are expecting.

Trouba : Proven.
Zaitsev : Unproven.

You really think Trouba wanting to play on his natural side is unreasonable? Show me an NHL Dman that doesn't have a preferred side, and I'll show you a Dman that doesn't care about excelling in the league.

For the record, I'm not a Jets fan, just a realist.

 

[internetdotcom]

Why are you comparing an elite defenseman with an elite rover?

No interest in Trouba at all for Toronto

Assuming you are referring to Karlsson with that silly 'rover' comment... I didn't realize 'rovers' won 2 Norrises by age 23 (and he really should have won one this last season). Last I checked, only elite defencemen get to win the Norris, let alone twice by 23 years old.

These stupid 'Karlsson can't play D' type comments have to stop. If he was the defensive sieve all these people that don't watch him play say he is, he would never have won a Norris, let alone 2.

 

[Liferleafer]

Trouba : Proven.
Zaitsev : Unproven.

You really think Trouba wanting to play on his natural side is unreasonable? Show me an NHL Dman that doesn't have a preferred side, and I'll show you a Dman that doesn't care about excelling in the league.

For the record, I'm not a Jets fan, just a realist.

A: I'm not the one comparing Zaitsev/Trouba.

B: Every player (wingers/D) have a prefered side....but most will do what is asked of them for the better of the team. Why don't you list the players who have demanded a trade due to what side they play on.

 

[Liferleafer]

Assuming you are referring to Karlsson with that silly 'rover' comment... I didn't realize 'rovers' won 2 Norrises by age 23 (and he really should have won one this last season). Last I checked, only elite defencemen get to win the Norris, let alone twice by 23 years old.

These stupid 'Karlsson can't play D' type comments have to stop. If he was the defensive sieve all these people that don't watch him play say he is, he would never have won a Norris, let alone 2.

The Norris trophy is usually based on points....if it was solely based on defensive ability, you think Karlsson wins it?

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Don't see where any of these deal are all that great for Winnipeg, Looks like more quantity then quality.

 

[Atomos2]

Trouba : Proven.
Zaitsev : Unproven.

You really think Trouba wanting to play on his natural side is unreasonable? Show me an NHL Dman that doesn't have a preferred side, and I'll show you a Dman that doesn't care about excelling in the league.

For the record, I'm not a Jets fan, just a realist.

Proven what? That he's a bottom pairing dman similar to Polak? Give me a break, Trouba hasn't proven anything except that he's been overhyped for ages.

 

[Paxon]

Why are you comparing an elite defenseman with an elite rover?

No interest in Trouba at all for Toronto

So, to recap: Zaitsev is "emerging as an elite RHD" and Erik Karlsson is not an elite defenseman. Great stuff.

Proven what? That he's a bottom pairing dman similar to Polak? Give me a break, Trouba hasn't proven anything except that he's been overhyped for ages.

Trouba is easily a second-pairing defenseman.

 

[Atomos2]

So, to recap: Zaitsev is "emerging as an elite RHD" and Erik Karlsson is not an elite defenseman. Great stuff.



Trouba is easily a second-pairing defenseman.

He's barely second pairing. He's been regressing since he came into the league.

 

[internetdotcom]

The Norris trophy is usually based on points....if it was solely based on defensive ability, you think Karlsson wins it?

No, actually its awarded to the best Dman in the league. All around Dman, not highest scoring Dman. This isn't the Art Ross trophy we're talking about that is only based on points. I think you are letting an apparent blind hatred of Karlsson, or the Sens, or both, blind you. Either that, or you are just jealous that your team doesn't have anyone that remotely compares to Karlsson.

Proven what? That he's a bottom pairing dman similar to Polak? Give me a break, Trouba hasn't proven anything except that he's been overhyped for ages.

Wow, I wonder if you read that post to hear how silly it sounds. If you think Trouba is a bottom pairing D, and/or that he is in any way comparable to Polak, just.... wow.

So Trouba is a bottom pairing D no better than Roman freakin' Polak, and Nikita 'has barely played in the league (has he even played an NHL game?)' Zaitseve is an emerging elite D.

So, to recap: Zaitsev is "emerging as an elite RHD" and Erik Karlsson is not an elite defenseman. Great stuff.



Trouba is easily a second-pairing defenseman.

I know right? I guess you learn something (that is blatantly and ridiculously wrong) on HFboards every day. The posters that posted the comments you are replying to are laughably off base at best, and blatantly biased.

 

[Finnish your Czech]

A JVR + trade won't ever get Trouba

 

[Beezeral]

Hf never ceases to amaze me. A week ago zaitsev was a bomafide top 4 guy. The WCoH happens where the talking heads talk about him being a bottom pairing guy for the leafs, but now leafs fans are saying he is an emerging elite player. This is so much fun

 

[Atomos2]

Wow, I wonder if you read that post to hear how silly it sounds. If you think Trouba is a bottom pairing D, and/or that he is in any way comparable to Polak, just.... wow.

So Trouba is a bottom pairing D no better than Roman freakin' Polak, and Nikita 'has barely played in the league (has he even played an NHL game?)' Zaitseve is an emerging elite D.

Dude a measly 17 ev points in a season is bottom pairing material. Polak had 16. Offensively, he's similar to Polak, you can talk about defense but Polak is good in that department as well not to mention more physical. Get where this is heading?

 

[Liferleafer]

Hf never ceases to amaze me. A week ago zaitsev was a bomafide top 4 guy. The WCoH happens where the talking heads talk about him being a bottom pairing guy for the leafs, but now leafs fans are saying he is an emerging elite player. This is so much fun

Fan....one....singular....not plural.

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

With Zaitsev emerging as an elite RHD there isn't enough urgency or desperation to make that kind of trade. Even Andrew Nielsen is impressing in camp.

It's obvious that the jets are the ones overvaluing Trouba because he's been on the trade market for 5 months with no takers.

Elite RHD?

Only the Marner offer seems realistic. The rest are quantity for quality.

 

[Liferleafer]

So, to recap: Zaitsev is "emerging as an elite RHD" and Erik Karlsson is not an elite defenseman. Great stuff.



Trouba is easily a second-pairing defenseman.

I agree, so what makes him worth the insane price some Jets fans are seeking?