Why would it be different than the calculus for those type of kids currently in the NCAA? They often stay, or at least consider staying, for two years. But beyond that is highly unlikely.
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Wait do people think elite prospects are going to play a total of four years post draft across CHL/NCAA? Lol...
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Would make sense. Not sure Luke is ready for AHL yet and would be an OA next year. NCAA for a year would be good for him probably before AHL and then some day NHL
This is another advantage of the NCAA. Since you can choose where you play, that can mean brothers having a chance to play together for the last time in their lives.
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The argument is that if you're just attempting to make the NHL without any guarantee of a roster spot and so risk not making it and then being sent down to the AHL for an indeterminate amount of time, you might prefer to control your own destiny and play in college and then sign when your chances of sticking in the NHL are higher a year (or two) later.
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I mean don't get me wrong I would love to be wrong, I think there are far to many players that push into the NHL at to young of an age because it's a cheap contract....but I just will believe it when I see it that a kid will not bother with signing the ELC early.
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Cale Makar, Owen Power, Cutter Gauthier, Kent Johnson, Matty Beniers.
There’s a long list. Most have spent more than a year lately. Some do only spend a year, but two years is more common.
Most top 5s do not spend more than one year post draft, though. It's become more popular to get them in for their draft year to get a second year out of them.
Misa would be one and done. A one year shot at a title with his brother.
Misa would be one and done. A one year shot at a title with his brother.
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I think for this discussion people mean 2 years after the draft as opposed to guys drafted from the NCAA already staying another year like Beniers, Johnson, Power. But yeah, Makar and Gauthier are also good examples.
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Back to Misa's game.
He's one of the smartest and most polished prospects I've watched in a while. His anticipation and the routes he takes on the ice are just fantastic. He honestly reminds me a bit of Shane Wright, which some might perceive as diminishing, but I mean it positively. I think he skates better and is more dynamic than Wright too.
I think he's currently a more effective player than Porter Martone, and it's worth noting he's an 07 too. Martone's hands and small-area passing are what make his potential so intriguing to me though. I'd lean toward them both over Hagens at this point, but it's very close.
He's one of the smartest and most polished prospects I've watched in a while. His anticipation and the routes he takes on the ice are just fantastic. He honestly reminds me a bit of Shane Wright, which some might perceive as diminishing, but I mean it positively. I think he skates better and is more dynamic than Wright too.
I think he's currently a more effective player than Porter Martone, and it's worth noting he's an 07 too. Martone's hands and small-area passing are what make his potential so intriguing to me though. I'd lean toward them both over Hagens at this point, but it's very close.
It happens in the NCAA already. The Caps made pretty clear that they offered Ryan Leonard an ELC to join their playoff roster last season, and he just straight up told them that he wanted to go back to school. Now that is an American kid who was already at his dream school and felt he had unfinished business, so it's not clear that a Canadian like Misa who isn't already in college would make the same decision, but it's not unprecedented at all. I imagine for someone like Misa it would be more about the guarantee of a roster spot versus the chance of being sent down the the AHL versus just turning down a roster spot because he wants to play in college.
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Yeah I do get it happens with American kids, but with Canadian CHL kids it is absolutely uncharted territory. Like I said I think it overall would be a positive step in the development of Canadian kids as most 18 year olds just aren't ready for the NHL. Like take a player like Benson....if he is American and in college he almost without a doubt doesn't play in the NHL as an 18 year old and end up stagnating offensively. Misa also can't do AHL next year.
So does Misa get treated like a CHLer and so be subject to the NHL/CHL transfer agreement even if he's committed to an NCAA team by the time of the draft? I suppose that would be the case because otherwise it would be a loophole and allow CHLers to circumvent the agreement age limit. Probably going to see a bunch of changes here regardless.
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I think this change is actually a big win for top CHLers because it allows them an additional year or so of development at a top flight NCAA program. Some exceptional players may not need it, but many do.
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I agree with this unless/until the NHL, CHL, and AHL adjust the transfer agreement to allow for freer movement for 18-19yo's. In that case those top CHLers may prefer to sign their ELC and stay in one system. They could get games in the AHL but also have the ability to go to/from to the CHL squad, which slightly mitigates the negative impact of top CHL player "talent drain." If that happens, then I still think some top prospects will choose the NCAA route, but it won't all of a sudden become the preferred route.
If Misa chooses to go NCAA, it may signal more of that to come in the future, but the "other shoe" hasn't dropped yet re: AHL and I wouldn't be surprised if we don't see enormous shifts in the system until the kids know what the new stable reality is.
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If you watch him live, you know he's making an NHL roster next season.
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If you take the bias out you’d know it’s not as clear cut as you think.
