So biggest knock on him is that he's Russian.
I can live with that
I can live with that
F Matvei Gridin - Shawinigan Cataractes, QMJHL (2024, 28th, CGY)
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At least he shoots good and is big. Comforting that Conroy has been watching the Flames for the last 10 years and came to the same conclusion I did. They can't shoot for shit and they're too small.
HarrySPlinkett
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Sounds like we drafted Kuzmenko.
That’s not a criticism - Kuzmenko is filthy.
That’s not a criticism - Kuzmenko is filthy.
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The biggest knock is his compete. You get that up a notch or two and you might have a 70 point player on your hands. Talent wise he's a top 20 pick, but there's some Grigorenko to his game.
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I'd be happy with that actually. But I can also see why that would be polarizing too.
HarrySPlinkett
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Name a pick Edmonton has taken outside the top 10 that has worked out in the past 20 years. Edmonton drafting someone almost certainly means you were wrong about them...
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Felidae
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Posted this in his flames thread but he's 3rd in points and goals in USHL history among 17 year olds.
Ahead of everyone in this draft, and ahead of Fantilli, Boeser, Gaudreau, Kyle Connor's 17 year old seasons..
You'd think a player having a historic season in his league would be more talked about and drafted higher, so why isn't that the case? Can anyone provide some necessary context, Is he not as good as the numbers suggest? Unsustainable play? In an ideal situation maybe?
Ahead of everyone in this draft, and ahead of Fantilli, Boeser, Gaudreau, Kyle Connor's 17 year old seasons..
You'd think a player having a historic season in his league would be more talked about and drafted higher, so why isn't that the case? Can anyone provide some necessary context, Is he not as good as the numbers suggest? Unsustainable play? In an ideal situation maybe?
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Sergei Shirokov
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Flames are at a spot where they need to take swings on high upside players, and he's an upside swing.
Talent is evident. Very intriguing prospect imo.
Talent is evident. Very intriguing prospect imo.
Supposedly it's a "lack of motor and intensity". But if this is the kind of season he's doing while half-assing it, can't wait to see what he does when he tries.
Jersey Fan 12
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Apparently he may not be going to Michigan as announced by ESPN last night. Do any CHL teams hold his rights or is he returning to Muskegon?
Is the AHL an option coming out of the USHL?
Is the AHL an option coming out of the USHL?
Michael Farkas
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Yeah, there's been talk for over a month now that the U of M thing isn't gonna work out. I don't think anything is off the table with his next steps right now, depending on who you ask. The only one I haven't heard is "NHL" haha
Gun to my head, I think he finds his way into the OHL somehow. But I'm not putting any money on it.
I am a big fan of this player though. Would have been very comfortable taking him top 20...
Gun to my head, I think he finds his way into the OHL somehow. But I'm not putting any money on it.
I am a big fan of this player though. Would have been very comfortable taking him top 20...
ShotDownInFlames
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I don’t really give a shit what they’ve done in the past. I would rather have O’Rielly than Gridin.
Tbf O'Reilly is more the type of player that will complete an already good line up.
The offensive potential/ceiling is higher with Gridin. CGY will need some guys to carry the offense for the future. It's year 1 of their rebuild.
Based on what exactly? He was a lot less productive. He's smaller, less skilled and was carried by really strong linemates. Gridin drove his own line. He didn't play with Boisvert. O'Reilly is not close to as good as Gridin. He wasn't ranked as high as he was taken by a single scouting service and was ranked as a 3rd rounder by some.
Admissions with Michigan could hold him up getting to campus. I could totally see Windsor picking him in the CHL Import Draft. They've had good success in the past with Russians in the import draft.
Kingpin794
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Something tells me he wouldn't get along with their new hire at coach (Greg Walters). Wouldn't shock me though if he was a Spitfire in the end.
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I was gonna say...does not seem like the type a Val-d'Or could normally get. Big splash move for Mem Cup hosts as well...Scott Wheeler is reporting this. Sounds like VdO really screwed over Windsor lol.
But Rimouski also drafted Sansonnens and Simek. Simek is an '05 who was already in the Q and I don't think you draft unless you want him to play. Does this mean Sansonnens defers a year to stay in SUI or maybe one of them involved in the trade?
Mikael Lalanchette has said he does not believe he will be traded to Rimouski. He’s likely the reporter with the most inside info on the Q:
He thinks he’s traded to another team though.
Spitballing, but I’d guess Moncton and that the kiviharju pick was a flier. Not sure what other team in the Q would have the ability to attract a top end guy like Gridin and is in a go for it year.
Quebec, Halifax, Saint John are all rebuilding and wouldn’t make much sense
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Caser
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Did the CHL change its rules cuz before first year imports couldn't be traded until after Christmas.
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