F James Hagens - Boston College, NCAA (2025 Draft)

[Ryan Van Horne]

Pretty sure the chirping at Misa started after Misa dove to draw a penalty. And Hagens didn't let it go the rest of the night.

That would do it.

EDIT: Not to derail the thread, but did you also notice Misa's trip on Hensler that wasn't called? Announcer's said "Hensler blew a tire" and this tweet said Misa "helped create a turnover," but watch his foot hit Hensler's from behind. I doubt it was an intentional slew foot, but it had the same effect on Hensler.

 

[BKarchitect]

I’m not sure a certain segment of the NHL fanbase is ready for Zegras Mark II.

 

[William H Bonney]

That would do it.

EDIT: Not to derail the thread, but did you also notice Misa's trip on Hensler that wasn't called? Announcer's said "Hensler blew a tire" and this tweet said Misa "helped create a turnover," but watch his foot hit Hensler's from behind. I doubt it was an intentional slew foot, but it had the same effect on Hensler.

Yeah, I called this out in the tournament thread. Definitely a slew foot and should have been a penalty instead of a gift breakaway goal for Catton. To be fair to Misa I don't think it was intentional but should have been a tripping call nonetheless.

 

[Ryan Van Horne]

I’m not sure a certain segment of the NHL fanbase is ready for Zegras Mark II.

The dinosaur segment?

 

[GermanSpitfire]

There is a chance that by the end of the tournament, one of James Hagens or Cole Eiserman hold the U17 tournament record for points in a single tournament - the record is 18 points and is held by Colin White who set the record in 2013 in 6 games.

 

[Lavar Ball]

 

[JiggsNY]

His shot seems much more advanced than Hughes was at this point.

 

[BKarchitect]

He’s definitely got the “it” factor…I can’t imagine what they hype would be if he were a couple inches taller. Regardless he’s got a motor and plays bigger than his size…he’s just an electric presence out there and a danger in so many ways.

His brother is still only 17 and is up to 6’ even as of this fall so there’s every chance by his draft season his measurements won’t even be a projection issue either. If he adds a couple inches to the frame and then starts to fill out - he’s going to be impossible to handle (not that his peers can handle him now).

 

[JiggsNY]

I’m no longer subscribed, but Pronman ranked Hagens 1 and Misa 2 in an early early look at 2025. At the end of the early 2024 rankings article.

Was funny at the end of last nights game one of the Americans lightly shot the puck on the Canadian goalie after the final horn, caused a little crowd. And Hagens was the first off the bench and involved chirping again.

 

[Dempsey]

I’m no longer subscribed, but Pronman ranked Hagens 1 and Misa 2 in an early early look at 2025. At the end of the early 2024 rankings article.

Was funny at the end of last nights game one of the Americans lightly shot the puck on the Canadian goalie after the final horn, caused a little crowd. And Hagens was the first off the bench and involved chirping again.

I was at the game last night and Hagens (and Eiserman for that matter) was just on another level. Hagens was engaged physically like you said, and their ability to make smart, NHL-looking plays in the offensive zone at that age is impeccable.

 

[scoutman1]

I was at the game last night and Hagens (and Eiserman for that matter) was just on another level. Hagens was engaged physically like you said, and their ability to make smart, NHL-looking plays in the offensive zone at that age is impeccable.

dont forget too though the NTDP program is a team for the year that plays together all year so their chemistry in tournaments like this are a bit of an advantage...not down playing Hagens or Eiserman at the tournament....just saying the Canadiens teams are thrown together with not much time to gel and the USA team is set so it would be easier to making amazing IQ plays when you know how your teammates move and have set plays that are practiced over and over for the past 2 months.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

dont forget too though the NTDP program is a team for the year that plays together all year so their chemistry in tournaments like this are a bit of an advantage...not down playing Hagens or Eiserman at the tournament....just saying the Canadiens teams are thrown together with not much time to gel and the USA team is set so it would be easier to making amazing IQ plays when you know how your teammates move and have set plays that are practiced over and over for the past 2 months.

It’s likely true, in general, but Hagens has looked a good amount better than everyone at this tournament, including his teammates.

 

[MateORome]

His name had already been noticed before joining USDP.

He clearly has the profile to compete with Misa over the 2025 Draft

Who is the best American born in 2007 ?

 

[GermanSpitfire]

His name had already been noticed before joining USDP.

He clearly has the profile to compete with Misa over the 2025 Draft

Who is the best American born in 2007 ?

LJ Mooney who has been playing up a year for years - easily a top-5 prop spect right now.

The 2025 American draft class has potential to be special.

 

[sigx15]

dont forget too though the NTDP program is a team for the year that plays together all year so their chemistry in tournaments like this are a bit of an advantage...not down playing Hagens or Eiserman at the tournament....just saying the Canadiens teams are thrown together with not much time to gel and the USA team is set so it would be easier to making amazing IQ plays when you know how your teammates move and have set plays that are practiced over and over for the past 2 months.

This argument can be copy and pasted from a hundred other NTDP player threads. It's almost rehashed as many times on this board as the CHL vs NCAA debate

 

[Dominance]

This argument can be copy and pasted from a hundred other NTDP player threads. It's almost rehashed as many times on this board as the CHL vs NCAA debate

Yeah, well when posters are saying American Player X looks better than non-American player Y, you’re going to have to face it.

 

[Ryan Van Horne]

B.C. hockey reporter interviewed Hagens about his performance at U-17s.

James Hagens: A Golden Opportunity - Area 51 Sports Network

James Hagens domination of the World U17 Hockey Challenge has helped Team USA claim a spot in the Gold Medal Game.

www.area51sportsnet.com

 

[William H Bonney]

Yeah, well when posters are saying American Player X looks better than non-American player Y, you’re going to have to face it.

The problem with the argument is it's usually presented as being infallible when it's far from it.

 

[Ryan Van Horne]

dont forget too though the NTDP program is a team for the year that plays together all year so their chemistry in tournaments like this are a bit of an advantage...not down playing Hagens or Eiserman at the tournament....just saying the Canadiens teams are thrown together with not much time to gel and the USA team is set so it would be easier to making amazing IQ plays when you know how your teammates move and have set plays that are practiced over and over for the past 2 months.

I don't think we can attribute the success of Hagens and Eiserman to "chemistry" to any great degree. They've clearly been the two best players in my eyes, but it's because of their skill, not their chemistry together.

Sure, it helps them, and it probably helps the team overall a bit more in terms of playing a system that helps them win, but from a scouting standpoint, these two players -- and especially Hagens -- deserve the accolades they're getting.

 

[MateORome]

LJ Mooney who has been playing up a year for years - easily a top-5 prop spect right now.

The 2025 American draft class has potential to be special.

Special ? It has become a habit. There is almost always one or more Americans in the top 5.

In 10 years, American hockey will be superior to Canadian hockey. In the same way that European hockey has advanced in recent years.

 

[sigx15]

The problem with the argument is it's usually presented as being infallible when it's far from it.

I could understand the argument if there was a trend of ntdp players not translating to the NHL but that hasn’t happened

 

[Mathieukferland]

Special ? It has become a habit. There is almost always one or more Americans in the top 5.

In 10 years, American hockey will be superior to Canadian hockey. In the same way that European hockey has advanced in recent years.

We’ve heard that for nearly 30 years and it has never materialized though. Hagens is a special player and looks to be the the favourite for first overall in 2025

 

[waitin425]

Special ? It has become a habit. There is almost always one or more Americans in the top 5.

In 10 years, American hockey will be superior to Canadian hockey. In the same way that European hockey has advanced in recent years.

Oh boy.....here we go.

 

[MateORome]

We’ve heard that for nearly 30 years and it has never materialized though. Hagens is a special player and looks to be the the favourite for first overall in 2025

NHL Players in 1992/93
Canada 532 (67%)
USA 147 (18%)
Europe 117 (15%)

NHL Players in 2002/03
Canada 548 (56%)
USA 143 (14%)
Europe 299 (30%)

NHL Players in 2012/13
Canada 499 (52,5%)
USA 224 (23,5%)
Europe 227 (24%)

NHL Players in 2022/23
Canada 370 (42,8%)
USA 235 (27,2%)
Europe 259 (30%)

NHL Draft since 2017
Europe 40%
Canada 35%
USA 25%

 

[William H Bonney]

NHL Players in 1992/93
Canada 532 (67%)
USA 147 (18%)
Europe 117 (15%)

NHL Players in 2002/03
Canada 548 (56%)
USA 143 (14%)
Europe 299 (30%)

NHL Players in 2012/13
Canada 499 (52,5%)
USA 224 (23,5%)
Europe 227 (24%)

NHL Players in 2022/23
Canada 370 (42,8%)
USA 235 (27,2%)
Europe 259 (30%)

NHL Draft since 2017
Europe 40%
Canada 35%
USA 25%

Get this stuff out of this thread. It has nothing to do with Hagens and it will turn into a pissing match.