William H Bonney
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Yeah, and to fixate on something when he so obviously didn't understand a basic of hockey scoring was wild.
F James Hagens - Boston College, NCAA (2025 Draft)
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Yeah, and to fixate on something when he so obviously didn't understand a basic of hockey scoring was wild.
WarriorofTime
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He's just anal, and was ultimately wrong. Sequence of events was a won faceoff, forward taps it back to a defenseman, the defenseman shoots the puck, a forward scores off the rebound. If the forward that taps it back was not the forward that scored, Button is right that the won faceoff is not an assist. Since Stiga both sent it back to the defenseman and scored the goal, with the chain never being broken by defensive possession, that means the won faceoff remains the second assist the same as if it was won directly to the defenseman. Button was focused on someone touching it back to the defenseman and apparently not sure on scoring rulings that Stiga touching it before it went to Hensler didn't break the Hagens second assist chain.
No problem, even if it didn't count he equaled the record and will probably add more points in the final.
It's unbelievable to think he still has a year left before he gets drafted, I think he's going to pulverize the NCAA.
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clevelandcane
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MY favorite player in all of hockey. Period. I found him /first saw him at one of those fall classics and Natty's (15 O). Loved his game. Still do. Can't wait to watch him progress.
sigx15
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First time I saw him at MSC in his 14U season, it was like who the hell is this kid. He was wheeling with the puck everywhere and completely controlling the game. That team was completely stacked too and he was by far the best player on the ice with Boisvert, Monteiro, Kiss, Felicio, Sisson and more. It’s wild that team didn’t succeed more than it did
Pavel Buchnevich
"Pavel Buchnevich The Fake"
Yeah, it’s hard to not be a big fan of Hagens. Only problem I got with him is he’s an Isles fan.
He’d have a lot more points the last two seasons if he played with better players around him. Not that the NTDP ever has a team, but compared to what it is some years his NTDP age group is a little weaker.
At one point in this tournament he had points on 14 of the last 20 US goals. Hard to drive the offense much more than that.
He’d have a lot more points the last two seasons if he played with better players around him. Not that the NTDP ever has a team, but compared to what it is some years his NTDP age group is a little weaker.
At one point in this tournament he had points on 14 of the last 20 US goals. Hard to drive the offense much more than that.
Zero points in the final, and Americans lost the game. It doesn't look like a good sign. I call it marnerism.
Vasilevskiy
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Did you watch the game? Canada goalie robbed him and others he set up multiple times.
jj cale
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He's a fantastic player, George is the sole reason he didn't get on the scoresheet today.
You can say the same about Boston goalie, but Toronto fans don't see it as an excuse for their forwards' ineptitude.
Eternal Leaf
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I was impressed with Hagens. He's an exceptional talent oozing with skill.
Always making things happen and that's a great sign for a franchise-level prospect.
Always making things happen and that's a great sign for a franchise-level prospect.
The gold medal game did not diminish his accomplishments in this tournament what so ever. He played extremely well in the final game and could have had multiple points
He is an elite talent and will be an elite NHL player.
He is an elite talent and will be an elite NHL player.
Vasilevskiy
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Pavel Buchnevich
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The Toronto forwards didn’t set the playoff scoring record for the first round.
Yeah, I’ll cut anyone slack who does that, has a good final game (game 7/GMG), and only didn’t have a point or four because of random game to game puck luck.
And anyone who is blaming Matthews for this series is stupid anyway.
connecting junior hockey to the Maple Leafs struggles is very bizarre even by the standards of trolling on this forum
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Ryan Van Horne
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Tape from this year
There's been a lot of discussion about his skating and how good it exactly is. He's always had great edges, but I think he's gotten even faster this year.
Seeing a lot more of this lately, where the defender has the angle on him, and he just blows by. He gets compared to Jack a lot for obvious reasons, and a year ago I would have given Hughes a fairly significant edge in the skating department. After watching him this year- If there's a gap, I don't think it's much.
There's been a lot of discussion about his skating and how good it exactly is. He's always had great edges, but I think he's gotten even faster this year.
Seeing a lot more of this lately, where the defender has the angle on him, and he just blows by. He gets compared to Jack a lot for obvious reasons, and a year ago I would have given Hughes a fairly significant edge in the skating department. After watching him this year- If there's a gap, I don't think it's much.
Looks as though Smith is signing with the sharks.
We might see Hagens in between Perreault and Leonard next year.
We might see Hagens in between Perreault and Leonard next year.
Pavel Buchnevich
"Pavel Buchnevich The Fake"
Maybe true, but I think if BC wants success they should try to not have Hagens play with those two at evens.
Put someone like Gasseau as their center, and then let Hagens drive the second line with Stiga and like Jellvik.
Part of why they were so good this past season was that they had two good scoring lines. If they put Hagens with those guys, they might have the same success on the first line as last season, but having Stiga with two guys that Gauthier did a lot of heavy lifting for might not be as productive of a second line as the team had last season.
MichaelFarrell
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I’d move Leonard to center and have Hagens play on the second line.
Stiga-Leonard-Perreault
I know Stiga played with Hagens but I really like him on that line.
Ryan Van Horne
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No big surprise, but got my first 2024 draft guide (Red Line Report) and Hagens is ranked No. 1 for 2025.
EDIT: This shouldn't need to be said, but I've already been asked by one person, so I'll put this out there. Please don't ask me to send you the full Top 32 for 2025 -- or any year -- from this guide or any other. I have respect for the work that Kyle does and I'm not going to send copyrighted information in a private message. Same rules apply to that as applies to this forum, as far as I'm concerned.
EDIT: This shouldn't need to be said, but I've already been asked by one person, so I'll put this out there. Please don't ask me to send you the full Top 32 for 2025 -- or any year -- from this guide or any other. I have respect for the work that Kyle does and I'm not going to send copyrighted information in a private message. Same rules apply to that as applies to this forum, as far as I'm concerned.
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I would like to know what you think about Hagens x Celebrini. Who has the greatest potential? What are the expectations for both?
Who is better at skating, shooting, hands, IQ, vision, defense, faceoffs?
Who is better at skating, shooting, hands, IQ, vision, defense, faceoffs?
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Hagens has the higher upside IMO, and I think his toolset is better suited to elevating his linemates. Better skater, hands, and vision. Celebrini seems to be a bit more physically mature - he could have played as a center in the NHL last year. He may not have Hagens' ceiling, but he is probably more of a sure thing, and he's for sure the better shooter.
Both guys project as very competent, intelligent 2 way centers.
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