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F Cayden Lindstrom - Medicine Hat Tigers, WHL (2024, 4th, CBJ)

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Not surprised about Lindstrom leaving.

Not even the best guy on his team and has sat out the whole year probably getting offer after offer after offer.
 
Doesn't this also mean that Jackets can technically retain his rights for a few more years while unsigned since he's going the college route? Not that it matters as he'll likely sign next off-season if all goes well.
 
CBJx614 said:
Doesn't this also mean that Jackets can technically retain his rights for a few more years while unsigned since he's going the college route? Not that it matters as he'll likely sign next off-season if all goes well.
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Unclear. CBA doesn’t expressly discuss players drafted out of the CHL that go to the ncaa because that’s never been a thing before. The provision on 17 year old players drafted out of CHL is they have two years to get signed or go back in the draft. So we’ll see.
 
Hockeyville USA said:
He wanted to keep the NCAA route open. You sign, you're automatically ineligible for the NCAA. We're gonna keep having this conversations in the months & years to come about CHLers who get drafted.

Ex: Jake O'Brien (Brantford Bulldogs, OHL) is drafted this summer by the Boston Bruins, an organization that loves the NCAA route for developing prospects. The Bruins could strongly encourage/steer O'Brien to local programs like Boston University, Boston College, Providence, UMass, Northeastern, or national powers such as Michigan, Michigan State, North Dakota, Denver and spend a year or two there & develop better before entering pro. O'Brien could say "no" and want to sign, and then the Bruins would be faced with a difficult question about whether to cave & sign him or hold strong and push him to the NCAA.
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Somehow I doubt it was the reason he didn't sign last summer before this was a thing. I mean possibly I guess? Seems to be a slight leap. Definitely seems like a thing that might start happening from this draft on though.
 
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CBJx614 said:
Doesn't this also mean that Jackets can technically retain his rights for a few more years while unsigned since he's going the college route? Not that it matters as he'll likely sign next off-season if all goes well.
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Not yet. The rules would need to be changed. Currently nothing would change by this Lindstrom decision, but they might change this in the upcoming CBA negotiation.
 
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Team_Spirit said:
Smart of him to secure a full ride just in case he has to retire because of his back.
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Correct me if I’m wrong, but can the scholarship not be revoked at any time? (Although I’m sure those details were probably worked into his agreement)
 
OSA said:
Does being in “good standing” also mean being able to play?
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Nah. Like following all team rules and such.

That being said, if a player isn’t playing for well they will be encouraged to transfer out. I’ve never seen a scenario where a school really wanted a guy out for some reason but the guy chose to stick around. Nobody wants to stay somewhere where they will not play.
 
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WarriorofTime said:
Nah. Like following all team rules and such.

That being said, if a player isn’t playing for well they will be encouraged to transfer out. I’ve never seen a scenario where a school really wanted a guy out for some reason but the guy chose to stick around. Nobody wants to stay somewhere where they will not play.
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Thanks

I’m more just wondering if the player is granted a 4 year scholarship but actually never plays (forced to “retire”) because of injury, if he/she is still entitled to the 4 year academic portion of the scholarship.
 
OSA said:
Thanks

I’m more just wondering if the player is granted a 4 year scholarship but actually never plays (forced to “retire”) because of injury, if he/she is still entitled to the 4 year academic portion of the scholarship.
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Typically in the case of a medical retirement, they would stay on scholarship but not count as an athletic scholarship for purposes of headcount in the sport in question.
 
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Marc the Habs Fan said:
There isn't really a playbook for this but I am not sure playing at most 40 games or so next season is the best path after playing a handful of games since the calendar flipped to 2024. He needs as many games as possible, no?

Then again, playing Friday-Saturday every week and spending the rest of the week recovering and training might be for the best.
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Also, he will need to adapt to a new league and a new team, I don't think it's the best thing to do.
 
Marc the Habs Fan said:
There isn't really a playbook for this but I am not sure playing at most 40 games or so next season is the best path after playing a handful of games since the calendar flipped to 2024. He needs as many games as possible, no?
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I think we are mistaken when we think that progress is largely about games played. It's not. The skills training and gym time will be very important as well. 40 games is a good balance. Many prospects play too many games and miss out on skills and physical development

frontsfan67 said:
Not surprised about Lindstrom leaving.
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"Leaving" - he isn't really a part of any team currently so I thought that word choice was funny.

TheBeastCoast said:
Somehow I doubt it was the reason he didn't sign last summer before this was a thing. I mean possibly I guess? Seems to be a slight leap. Definitely seems like a thing that might start happening from this draft on though.
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I agree that the not signing likely had little to do with NCAA originally. But it worked out nicely.

CBJx614 said:
Doesn't this also mean that Jackets can technically retain his rights for a few more years while unsigned since he's going the college route? Not that it matters as he'll likely sign next off-season if all goes well.
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I forgot where this was written - but there was a piece where NHL execs were asked how long the Jackets would retain his rights if he went to NCAA, and one exec was confident that it was an additional 4 years. Even though this particular arrangement - of drafting a guy out of CHL who then opts to go to NCAA a year later - is unprecedented, the wording of the CBA is perfectly clear that the Jackets will retain his rights for the entire college period, as long as it takes.
 
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OSA said:
Thanks

I’m more just wondering if the player is granted a 4 year scholarship but actually never plays (forced to “retire”) because of injury, if he/she is still entitled to the 4 year academic portion of the scholarship.
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This is what happened with David Carle. DU "honored" his scholarship. I don't think they had to.
 
majormajor said:
"Leaving" - he isn't really a part of any team currently so I thought that word choice was funny
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Medicine Hat isn’t a team?

If he gets healthy he will be playing for them in the playoffs. Big question again is his health. Will he be good? Hell- will he be good for next year either? What is going on with the kid?
 
frontsfan67 said:
Medicine Hat isn’t a team?

If he gets healthy he will be playing for them in the playoffs. Big question again is his health. Will he be good? Hell- will he be good for next year either? What is going on with the kid?
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At this point it appears to be all about caution and we don't have any word of any lingering ill-health. So it's not that he isn't healthy enough to play for Medicine Hat, it's likely that they just put little priority on him playing there, including this upcoming playoffs. They would rather focus on skills training and off ice training which is lower risk, until next Fall when he can join the NCAA.
 
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