F Brady Tkachuk (2018, 4th, OTT)

[cgf]

ISS had Tkachuk at #2 after the WJHC in January. I doubt anyone chooses Tkachuk over a more dynamic Svechnikov though. Still though, being in the conversation says something.

That was stupid of them then and it's just as dumb now. One outlier rating doesn't mean he was ever seriously in the conversation for #2...or even #3

 

[Icebreakers]

Brady will be the perfect complimentary player on a good team. He could score 65 points on a top contender. If you're team sucks however and needs game breaking talent then stay away. He would he be perfect on the Jets or Penguins.

 

[elitebottomsix]

That was stupid of them then and it's just as dumb now. One outlier rating doesn't mean he was ever seriously in the conversation for #2...or even #3

ISS ranking him at 2 is the exact definition of him being in the conversation for 2 or 3. It’s one of the major rankings lists out there. You can disagree with their ranking but you can’t wish it out of existence because you’ve decided they are “dumb”.

I have him @ 6 right now btw

 

[Breakers]

Fair enough. Obviously McDavid was going to make anyone else #2. But it was more of an observation about the entire draft than a dig at Tkachuk. Like for instance, Shane Bowers is roughly the same age as Tkachuk and is also a freshman, yet he’s having a better offensive season as a 27th overall pick in 2017. Where would Bowers rank in this year’s draft?

I haven’t looked into this years draft too much, but for all the talk about a deeper draft, it just seems like there’s some signs that it could be a weaker one.

Bowers is their 1st line center.

Tkachuk is on the 2nd line with Greenway.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Bowers is their 1st line center.

Tkachuk is on the 2nd line with Greenway.

Lineups consistently have Bowers listed on 2nd line. I do not know how their icetime is distributed.

 

[AmericanDream]

Lineups consistently have Bowers listed on 2nd line. I do not know how their icetime is distributed.

Farrance on the wing??? that is interesting...

 

[Breakers]

Lineups consistently have Bowers listed on 2nd line. I do not know how their icetime is distributed.

Ice time isnt listed, but tracked and Bobo Carpenters line was definitely the first line in that game
Greenway only started playing center a few months ago, that's why Quinn shelters that line a bit more.

Welcome to collegehockeystats.net

 

[Jarey Curry]

Brady will be the perfect complimentary player on a good team. He could score 65 points on a top contender. If you're team sucks however and needs game breaking talent then stay away. He would he be perfect on the Jets or Penguins.

If he's the BPA when the Avs pick, I think he'd be a tremendous add to our youth movement with nastier more meaner 2nd line Landy jr.

 

[42]

Brady will be the perfect complimentary player on a good team. He could score 65 points on a top contender. If you're team sucks however and needs game breaking talent then stay away. He would he be perfect on the Jets or Penguins.

There is no chance he lasts to the spots Pens or Jets will be selecting.

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

He will go between 3rd and ~7th

 

[Lampedampe]

How's his skating?

Heard some concerns but haven't watched him play outside wjc tbh.

 

[Hatter of the Beach]

Something to consider for all those hating on the fact he'd be in last year's draft if he was a day older

Brady Tkachuk: 8 Goals, 20 Assists for 28 points in 36 games.
Casey Middlestadt: 11 goals, 19 Assists for 30 points in 34 games.

Both play in the NCAA, only Casey is 10 months older and considered an offensive force, while Tkachuk is considered to not have an elite Ceiling. Couple that with him Brady being more physically mature, and other desirable aspects to his game, and I think the top 4-8 ranking is warranted. He's outscoring what Middlestadt, who I think is a very good prospect, would have if he was the same age. Brady's game translates better to the NHL too.

 

[Breakers]

How's his skating?

Heard some concerns but haven't watched him play outside wjc tbh.

Better than his brother at the same age.

 

[Habs76]

Something to consider for all those hating on the fact he'd be in last year's draft if he was a day older

Brady Tkachuk: 8 Goals, 20 Assists for 28 points in 36 games.
Casey Middlestadt: 11 goals, 19 Assists for 30 points in 34 games.

Both play in the NCAA, only Casey is 10 months older and considered an offensive force, while Tkachuk is considered to not have an elite Ceiling. Couple that with him Brady being more physically mature, and other desirable aspects to his game, and I think the top 4-8 ranking is warranted. He's outscoring what Middlestadt, who I think is a very good prospect, would have if he was the same age. Brady's game translates better to the NHL too.

Brady has a far better team around him. Mittelstadt ishis team

 

[Breakers]

Brady has a far better team around him. Mittelstadt is his team

That storyline needs to disappear like yesterday.
He plays with Rem Pitlick and scott reedy who are drafted players, and not some scrubs.

Tkachuk plays with a a Kid who started playing center this year, and 23 year old undrafted transfer.

 

[42]

I don't see him lasting past the 5th pick. I've seen him ranked as low is the low teens but that is just nonsense.

 

[le_sean]

Mittelstadt also completely carried Brady in the WJC. He dominated the tournament.

 

[TeddyBare]

Mittelstadt also completely carried Brady in the WJC. He dominated the tournament.

I believe that was also the hypothesis with Auston Matthews and Matthew Tkachuk at the world juniors in 2016.

 

[MichaelFarrell]

That storyline needs to disappear like yesterday.
He plays with Rem Pitlick and scott reedy who are drafted players, and not some scrubs.

Tkachuk plays with a a Kid who started playing center this year, and 23 year old undrafted transfer.

On papaer they don't look terrible. But, they are terrible.

 

[cgf]

ISS ranking him at 2 is the exact definition of him being in the conversation for 2 or 3. It’s one of the major rankings lists out there. You can disagree with their ranking but you can’t wish it out of existence because you’ve decided they are “dumb”.

I have him @ 6 right now btw

It's still just a single ranking taken at a time were players get massively over- & under-rated because of the WJC. That's an outlier, and a dumb one at that. Even after the WJC putting Tkachuk ahead of Svech or Zadina was asinine unless you were just ranking who had the most productive WJC.

 

[Frk It]

ISS had Tkachuk at #2 after the WJHC in January. I doubt anyone chooses Tkachuk over a more dynamic Svechnikov though. Still though, being in the conversation says something.

The same place that lists him as a center?

 

[qwerty]

The same place that lists him as a center?

Doesn't every bio list him as a center? HockeyDB, eliteprospects and etc. Maybe ISS just hasn't updated it. I actually heard on tv a week or so ago, an color analyst mentioned that at least 1 team has ranked Brady Tkachul #2 on their list. So really, not that crazy.

 

[The Winter Soldier]

I like this guy more than his brother Matthew. And I like Matthew a lot already. Brady is going to be better IMO. And that tells you all you need to know how high this guy's ceiling is. He's going to be a great pick whomever is lucky enough to land him after Dahlin goes #1.

 

[Frk It]

Doesn't every bio list him as a center? HockeyDB, eliteprospects and etc. Maybe ISS just hasn't updated it. I actually heard on tv a week or so ago, an color analyst mentioned that at least 1 team has ranked Brady Tkachul #2 on their list. So really, not that crazy.

No. Button doesn’t, hockeyprospect.com doesn’t, Pronman doesn’t, etc.

 

[GregSirico]

It's funny people either LOVE this guy (top 3 pick) or are blah on him (latter part of the top 10.)