Expectations for Matthew Knies.

[Jimmy Firecracker]

53 games
15 goals
20 assists
35 points

Solid and contributing in the playoffs!

Completely accurate aside from the games played.

20 goals, 25 assists, 70 points.

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Ya, line combos. I mean you'd pencil him in on line 3 at the moment yes, with probably little to no PP time. With a full line up anyways, and first one up to plug a top 2 line hole?

All things considered above.. 15-20 goals, sure, 20-25 assists-ish? 35-45 points? That feels high for a rookie third liner, he looked good in playoffs but was getting top line allocations. A lot of variables.

Right in the margins for you as well.

A lot will depend on deployment. While I think he's a virtual lock to be on the roster there's a lot of competition for those top six left wing slots. Not to mention powerplay configuration and minutes. Leafs this season have enough offensive punch to run two capable PP units, so we'll see if Keefe adjusts and uses both an equal amount or if he still over-relies on the first PP unit. If he keeps to old habits then Knies better hope he's on the first unit otherwise the opportunity for powerplay points will be low.

17 Goals and 24 Assists for 41 points.

I was off by a couple of goals and a few assists. Still though I think he had a fine season overall for his rookie year playing so many games for the first time.

 

[Cypruss]

Completely accurate aside from the games played.



Right in the margins for you as well.



I was off by a couple of goals and a few assists. Still though I think he had a fine season overall for his rookie year playing so many games for the first time.

Happy I was wrong on the GP part.

Now make my prediction even stronger by being a beast in the playoffs!

 

[Torontonian]

40 points, 15g, 25A. He's going to have a up and down season I think, bouncing between the 2nd line and the 3rd line. The regular season is a long grind, there's going some hiccups through out it.

I just hope he stays healthy majority of the year.

Was off by 5 assists on my prediction in the summer. Not bad.

Took way too many hooking and tripping pens this year though.

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

 

[Squiffy]

Completely accurate aside from the games played.



Right in the margins for you as well.



I was off by a couple of goals and a few assists. Still though I think he had a fine season overall for his rookie year playing so many games for the first time.

Ya, he hit my low end there. Third line minutes, not much pp really, really not a bad rookie season. Will improve I think. 25-ish goals and 60, maybe 70 points might be his high point, which gets you a good long career in the NHL playing 2nd/3rd lines. Good player, still learning. Should be affordable right to UFA, we need guys like him.

See if he’s as much of a playoff gamer as he was last year in next couple of weeks or if that was a juiced up, just came from playing for national D1 title, Hobey Baker contention, adrenaline fuelled, too young to know it’s not suppose to happen this way apparition.

 

[WillyC]

I was hoping for more when he was given first line duties… then he got played like a Swiss Army knife.

Still had a very solid rookie year… I suspect he’s gonna play heavy in the playoffs… the kid is not afraid to play rough hockey.

 

[The Shadow]

What a nice addition to the power play and top 6. At 21 he’s really solidified himself as a power forward we haven’t had in a long time

Wondering what kind of deal he gets next. I think he has a lot of room to grow his game and maybe a 40 goal season is doable

Also he seems clutch in the playoffs

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

I thought this was interesting analysis on Knies.

 

[Warden of the North]

I thought this was interesting analysis on Knies.

I checked out this guy's opinion of Liljegren and was not surprised by what I found.

SPOILER - He thinks Liljegren is great.

 

[Clark4Ever]

I thought this was interesting analysis on Knies.

Funny, the eye test tells an entirely different story. I think Knies is one of the best up and coming young power forwards in the game.

 

[therealkoho]

Funny, the eye test tells an entirely different story. I think Knies is one of the best up and coming young power forwards in the game.

Many people are saying this!

 

[therealkoho]

That's 45 points, my dude

That's a old joke and still a good one, apparently!

 

[Menzinger]

I thought this was interesting analysis on Knies.

I don't mind Hahn as an analyst, but I'd say this does lack context. For example it shouldn't be surprising that the other two players completely dominate controlled entries, not just because of their star skill sets (which obviously plays a large part of it), but the line's systems /plays are likely by design supposed to reflect that, Knies has a specific role in that line and it's not supposed to be an equal to Marner/Matthews

 

[Martin Skoula]

I don't mind Hahn as an analyst, but I'd say this does lack context. For example it shouldn't be surprising that the other two players completely dominate controlled entries, not just because of their star skill sets (which obviously plays a large part of it), but the line's systems /plays are likely by design supposed to reflect that, Knies has a specific role in that line and it's not supposed to be an equal to Marner/Matthews

I agree on getting a look at Knies as the main piece on a 3rd line, not that he’s earned a demotion but I think it could be similar to how good Hyman looked when he got moved to that line with Engvall and Mikeheyev. Knies entries are choppy but he can power the puck deep against most D in the league. If he had a RW version of McMann to follow up and win battles I think they could hem in most opponents nonstop dump and chasing.

Maybe something like Knies-Minten-Nylander

 

[Stephen]

I don't mind Hahn as an analyst, but I'd say this does lack context. For example it shouldn't be surprising that the other two players completely dominate controlled entries, not just because of their star skill sets (which obviously plays a large part of it), but the line's systems /plays are likely by design supposed to reflect that, Knies has a specific role in that line and it's not supposed to be an equal to Marner/Matthews

Jack Han also showed a video of Matthew Knies driving to the net in a straight line that allowed for the tap in when he fumbled the puck. I'm sure that video was supposed to demonstrate some lack of skill, smarts and vision on Knies' part, but you need guys who are a bull in a china shop, and to me he's like a bigger, more hard to contain replacement for a young pre-Edmonton Hyman. And that's fine for what he's supposed to be. We can debate $7 million, it wouldn't bug me if it was less.

Also, we have to think about the built in biases to Jack Han's evaluations. The kind of Marlies that were elevated in those years in 2018 and 2019 when he was part of the program don't exactly jump off the page as the right stuff.

 

[Stephen]

I agree on getting a look at Knies as the main piece on a 3rd line, not that he’s earned a demotion but I think it could be similar to how good Hyman looked when he got moved to that line with Engvall and Mikeheyev. Knies entries are choppy but he can power the puck deep against most D in the league. If he had a RW version of McMann to follow up and win battles I think they could hem in most opponents nonstop dump and chasing.

Maybe something like Knies-Minten-Nylander

Or we get a guy like Wahlstrom off waivers and try something with Knies, Minten and Wahlstrom.

 

[Sypher04]

I agree on getting a look at Knies as the main piece on a 3rd line, not that he’s earned a demotion but I think it could be similar to how good Hyman looked when he got moved to that line with Engvall and Mikeheyev. Knies entries are choppy but he can power the puck deep against most D in the league. If he had a RW version of McMann to follow up and win battles I think they could hem in most opponents nonstop dump and chasing.

Maybe something like Knies-Minten-Nylander

I do think we should be encouraging more competition amongst those LW roles, though that’s hard to do when 2 of the 3 have been out with injuries for several games.

Now getting healthy, I’d like to see them experiment, and if need be add an impact player to the LW at the trade deadline

 

[Leafblooded]

Started well, got concussed, now sucks

 

[Phion Keneuf]

Started well, got concussed, now sucks

Our definition of sucks must be very different.