Trade and Free Agency - 2024-25
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Here is how I see next year:
Top 6: Kap, Rossi, Zucc, EK, Boldy, $7M UFA
3rd line: Yurov, Foligno, Hartman/Gaudreau
4th line: Gaudreau/Hartman, Trenin, Brazeau
Fighting for spot: Ohgren, Heidt, Hinostroza
Not resigned: Mojo, Nyquist
Maybe they drop EK with Foligno and try to recreate a GREEF type line again. Assuming Yurov would then move up to Top 6, depending on whether the UFA we target is a W or C.
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Top 4: Faber, Brodin, Middleton, Spurgeon
Bottom pair: Two of Buium, Jiricek, Bogosian
Not resigned: Merrill
Traded: Chisholm
Am I missing anyone?
The lineup may not look entirely different, but the collective upside of Buium, Yurov, Ohgren, Jiricek, Heidt, Wallstedt offers some hope IMO
Top 6: Kap, Rossi, Zucc, EK, Boldy, $7M UFA
3rd line: Yurov, Foligno, Hartman/Gaudreau
4th line: Gaudreau/Hartman, Trenin, Brazeau
Fighting for spot: Ohgren, Heidt, Hinostroza
Not resigned: Mojo, Nyquist
Maybe they drop EK with Foligno and try to recreate a GREEF type line again. Assuming Yurov would then move up to Top 6, depending on whether the UFA we target is a W or C.
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Top 4: Faber, Brodin, Middleton, Spurgeon
Bottom pair: Two of Buium, Jiricek, Bogosian
Not resigned: Merrill
Traded: Chisholm
Am I missing anyone?
The lineup may not look entirely different, but the collective upside of Buium, Yurov, Ohgren, Jiricek, Heidt, Wallstedt offers some hope IMO
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Right when I started thinking you were cool.
I wonder if Kane is locked into playing with Detroit, or open to other places. Guerin could offer him $8M if he bridges Rossi or gets him to buckle a bit.
I don’t love Boeser, but he’s probably the best short term fit. Be nice to have a real RHS sniper for first time in franchise history.
Marner would be incredible but don’t see the cap working unless we move Spurgeon or something.
Trade targets I like are Barzal, Tuch, E.Lindholm (risky but I think he’s better than he’s shown lately).
Mostly focusing on teams trending toward a rebuild.
The placeholder theory actually makes sense with when the full no trades end and the dead cap lowering. After next season the only player with a full no trade will hopefully be Kaprizov.
Next season, the full no trades are Kaprizov, Zucc, Foligno, and Middleton.
2 options, and you have to choose 1:
#1 - Trade Kaprizov to Carolina for Nikishin + 2025 or 2026 1st round pick, plus sign Marner to 7 x $13M
or
#2 - Re-sign Kaprizov for 8 x $15.5M
#1 - Trade Kaprizov to Carolina for Nikishin + 2025 or 2026 1st round pick, plus sign Marner to 7 x $13M
or
#2 - Re-sign Kaprizov for 8 x $15.5M
unless yurov stinks, i want to see him on the 1st line w kap & rossi.
First option easily. I think Guerin has to make a real run at marner this summer. You can figure out the money later. Dallas isn’t exactly swimming with cap space next year and that didn’t stop them from adding a game changer. Plus, it’s Kaprizov insurance.
I realize Hartman is pretty unpopular around here right now, and I realize he's not having a very good offensive season, but of all the guys we're talking about moving, he would still be the last one I'd get rid of.
I think he's the only one of them capable of playing the heavier, aggressive two way game, while also not being a black hole offensively. He's been good the last couple games with Hinostroza, they generate some chances. Foligno by comparison looks completely useless offensively. Trenin is also completely useless offensively. Zuccarello is going downhill fast and if they get another player for the line with Kaprizov (Yurov or FA), Zuccarello won't have a place on this roster that makes any sense.
I would move any of those three and bet on Hartman rebounding next season.
I think he's the only one of them capable of playing the heavier, aggressive two way game, while also not being a black hole offensively. He's been good the last couple games with Hinostroza, they generate some chances. Foligno by comparison looks completely useless offensively. Trenin is also completely useless offensively. Zuccarello is going downhill fast and if they get another player for the line with Kaprizov (Yurov or FA), Zuccarello won't have a place on this roster that makes any sense.
I would move any of those three and bet on Hartman rebounding next season.
Yeah, don't think about that. Think about other stuff that isn't that. Marner ain't coming here. I get the team will have the coin to get it done, but Minnesota isn't a preferred free agent destination. I'd put good money on it not even being in the top 2/3rds of the league. They'd have to overpay him significantly to get him here. Enough so that it would be detrimental to the rest of the roster.
Also, thinking about it more, I can't imagine Marner being a Guerin kinda player. Like...at all. I'd be fairly surprised if Guerin has even considered it.
92 per 82 player in the regular season
72 per 82 player in the playoffs
That would be big game hunting and apparently his team did just try and trade him. Still seems very improbable but fun to dream.
.Marner at 10M...maybe, ok, even though I think the money is better spent on a C. Marner at the 13M or so he's gonna want? No thanks. He is a winger with zero physicality and mediocre defense.
Malkin is near done. If we can get him for 6-7M x1, sure, but he won't leave PIT for us at that wage bill.
I am sad seeing the forwards we are trotting out there game after game. Also wondering just how high of a draft pick we gave away in 2025, for a guy they refuse to play over Bogosian, Chisholm, and Merrill.
Malkin is near done. If we can get him for 6-7M x1, sure, but he won't leave PIT for us at that wage bill.
I am sad seeing the forwards we are trotting out there game after game. Also wondering just how high of a draft pick we gave away in 2025, for a guy they refuse to play over Bogosian, Chisholm, and Merrill.
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