Value of: Everyone on the Islanders

[bernmeister]

This was a lot of thought put into a whole that of nothing.

feel free to substantiate and address pros and cons on merits

 

[TheBigLetowski]

Brock Nelson will have a ton of value.

I would like the Canes to a stab at Nelson

 

[seafoam]

Everyone must go

I’d say keep Sorokin and Horvat.

I’d trade Barzal and Dobson (and everyone else) for the right return.

 

[MartyOwns]

lou is too old and stupid to do a proper rebuild, you're better off waiting until he moves on to decimate another franchise before you start your fire sale.

 

[seafoam]

I would like the Canes to a stab at Nelson

1st conditional + one of Jackson Blake, Morrow, or maybe Unger-Sorum.

Jackson’s father Jason was a former Islander, I could see NYI having interest in him.

 

[Barsky]

Damn i want Barzal in MTL !!!

Let's go

Dach + A Prospect + CGY first pick

Gonna have to do better than Dach, with his league worst -12, all of 1 goal and a body made of glass

 

[Barsky]

doesn't help add youth immediately but a good value stopgap...

bread 11.6+ x 2 retained 5.6+ to 6
Trouba 8 x 2 no retention
Vesey < 1m
total = just under 15

Dobson 4 expiring -> rfa
Romanov 2.5 expiring -> rfa
Nelson 6.0 expiring -> ufa
total = 12.5

dif = a bit under 2.5
Isles have almost 2 in cap space and can dump to get under

why Isles
Trouba is this season + next
after this season he can be dealt
2 yrs bread at just over half is good for LI
get dibs on figuring out if he wants to stay, or will waive
if he waives that is signif rental return esp w/signif retention

the D being given up are younger but require deals sooner
it does wince to lose LD Romanov but it is parallel to a rental

why Rs
using $$ to add young RD
flip Fox to LD
Fox - Dobson
KAM - Scheider
Romanov - Mancini

helps w/D while waiting on cavalry [Fortescue, Emery]
stopgap Nelson while Othmann + Gabe Perreault get ready

moves Vesey so full time Rempe here

What is all this drivel? Do you not know how to type an actual sentence?

 

[Fatass]

I’d say keep Sorokin and Horvat.

I’d trade Barzal and Dobson (and everyone else) for the right return.

I’d think there’s little choice but to keep Horvat. Lots of term and big cap hit.

 

[Baksfamous112]

Who’s the A prospect? That Hutson kid is still a prospect in my eyes. If not him, what about the Demidov kid with a guarantee he’s leaving the KHL this summer.

Yeah… no

 

[WTFMAN99]

Leafs would have interest in all of Dobson, Barzal and Nelson.

I think only Nelson might become available later this year though.

 

[Superlative Soup]

Who’s the A prospect? That Hutson kid is still a prospect in my eyes. If not him, what about the Demidov kid with a guarantee he’s leaving the KHL this summer.

Probably Mesar or Kidney

 

[miscs75]

Probably Mesar or Kidney

Which of the two is adult sized and not overhyped because Montreal drafted him?

 

[miscs75]

Leafs would have interestin both Dobson, Barzal and Nelson.

I think only Nelson might become available later this year though.

Want all 3? gonna cost McMann, Knies, 2025 1st plus who knows what else. No Marner (and his cuddle squad), Robertson or cap dumps aren’t of interest for the Islanders.

 

[Green]

I’d say keep Sorokin and Horvat.

I’d trade Barzal and Dobson (and everyone else) for the right return.

What's the point? Horvat and Sorokin are both 29, by the time any "re-tool" takes shape they will be over the hill, everyone has to go

 

[seafoam]

What's the point? Horvat and Sorokin are both 29, by the time any "re-tool" takes shape they will be over the hill, everyone has to go

You need stability in certain positions/roles in order to properly conduct a rebuild.

Look at San Jose as an example of what NOT to do…

 

[periferal]

Brock Nelson will have a ton of value.

...That Lou will never trade and instead resign him until he Clutterbuck's his way into retirement.

 

[Isles72]

not even really worth discussing unless ownership fires Lou

 

[IslesNbeer]

Barzal, Sorokin, Horvat, Pelech....everyone has to go what are the offers

Lou has to go first, otherwise there is no point.

 

[WTFMAN99]

Want all 3? gonna cost McMann, Knies, 2025 1st plus who knows what else. No Marner (and his cuddle squad), Robertson or cap dumps aren’t of interest for the Islanders.

I think the salary cap says no unfortunately lol.

I would imagine the cost on Nelson is likely a 1st+ or 2nd++

I think someone will offer more than the Leafs can.

Leafs can likely offer a 2nd, Robertson/Holmberg (choose one) , Hirvonen/Niemela/Tverberg (choose one).

Leafs just don't have a lot of assets, you guys can turn it around though maybe or unload some vets and reload.

 

[WangMustGo]

I think the salary cap says no unfortunately lol.

I would imagine the cost on Nelson is likely a 1st+ or 2nd++

I think someone will offer more than the Leafs can.

Leafs can likely offer a 2nd, Robertson/Holmberg (choose one) , Hirvonen/Niemela/Tverberg (choose one).

Leafs just don't have a lot of assets, you guys can turn it around though maybe or unload some vets and reload.

Nelson will absolutely return a 1st+ he has averaged 35 goals a year over the past 3 seasons and would immediately upgrade any teams top 6.

Realistically if the isles are out of it by the deadline Nelson, Palmieri, and all the other pending free agents should be moved.

 

[WTFMAN99]

Nelson will absolutely return a 1st+ he has averaged 35 goals a year over the past 3 seasons and would immediately upgrade any teams top 6.

Realistically if the isles are out of it by the deadline Nelson, Palmieri, and all the other pending free agents should be moved.

Absolutely, you guys have some good assets that other teams will want.

 

[REALTALK81]

Love for the Leafs to go after Nelson. Not sure what the asking price would be?

 

[miscs75]

Something around Sorokin (or Varlamov?) and Pelech for Nurse, Skinner and picks/prospects?

Isles don’t need a dumpster fire defensive contract and Jeff Skinner plus fillers. Darnell will be with the Oilers until he’s a UFA.

 

[Diablo2020]

Horvat for Veleno, Buium, 1st

Barzal for Moore, Rinzel, 1st, 2nd, 2nd

Nelson @50% for Gaudreau, 1st

Palmieri @50% for Kotkaniemi, 1st

Sorokin for Ellis, Fedotov, 1st, 1st

Pelech and Pulock for Price, 1st, 1st

Cizikas and Dobson for Krug, 1st, 1st

 

[miscs75]

I think the salary cap says no unfortunately lol.

I would imagine the cost on Nelson is likely a 1st+ or 2nd++

I think someone will offer more than the Leafs can.

Leafs can likely offer a 2nd, Robertson/Holmberg (choose one) , Hirvonen/Niemela/Tverberg (choose one).

Leafs just don't have a lot of assets, you guys can turn it around though maybe or unload some vets and reload.

The assets you’re offering just don’t move the needle though. Starting with a 2nd and adding filler pieces isn’t even comparable to what similar centers have gone for. Elias Lindholm and Bo Horvat deals are what I’m thinking Brock would easily return.

Horvat for Veleno, Buium, 1st

Minnesota doesn’t have Joe Veleno and I’m passing on that for Bo Horvat.