Player Discussion Evan Bouchard

[joestevens29]

His partial break kinda caught me off guard, really wheeled in there to create a real nice chance

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

His partial break kinda caught me off guard, really wheeled in there to create a real nice chance

Loved that for sure and it's good to see him bring more of that to his game these playoffs

 

[Bumblebee Man]

Bad game from Bouchard so far (10 min 3rd) we'll see if he has really turned the corner by how he plays the rest of the series.

Tonight tho he is getting overwhelmed in the D zone and looks lost offensively a bit

Hopefully it's just a 1 off and he re gains his previous play

I don't think it's Bouchard who desperately needs to turn the corner

 

[MessierThanThou]

Bad game from Bouchard so far (10 min 3rd) we'll see if he has really turned the corner by how he plays the rest of the series.

Tonight tho he is getting overwhelmed in the D zone and looks lost offensively a bit

Hopefully it's just a 1 off and he re gains his previous play

 

[Trafalgar Sadge Law]

Bad game from Bouchard so far (10 min 3rd) we'll see if he has really turned the corner by how he plays the rest of the series.

Tonight tho he is getting overwhelmed in the D zone and looks lost offensively a bit

Hopefully it's just a 1 off and he re gains his previous play

The guy made the Barkov and Tkachuk lines look like Matt Duchene and Jamie Benn lines, going 12-6 in shots and 2-0 in goals in 17:25 against them. But you think he had a bad game because of one giveaway.

 

[Trafalgar Sadge Law]

Bouchard was the best D by a significant margin.

Glad to see that the underlying stats reflected Kapanen having his best game of the playoffs too.

 

[Fixed to Ruin]

Bouchard's agent right now

 

[LTIR]

Glad to see that the underlying stats reflected Kapanen having his best game of the playoffs too.

What does this chart say about Walman?
He was good defensively as an individual but as a team we sucked defensively when he was out??

 

[Trafalgar Sadge Law]

What does this chart say about Walman?
He was good defensively as an individual but as a team we sucked defensively when he was out??

No, they say that he did okay defensively relative to his main linemates but the team overall gave up a lot of chances when he was on the ice. Which makes sense given that he was on ice for 2 goals against, but wasn't really the primary offender. First goal against was Bennett interference which shouldn't have counted anyway. 2nd goal against maybe he could've played the pass instead of the shot, but the bigger issues were Henrique getting blown by and Brown+Walman communication breakdown where both went towards puck carrier.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Bouchard's agent right now

And he's right to do so

 

[BoldNewLettuce]

Bouchard's agent right now

"OH the money. The finger thing means the money"

 

[avocadosmoothie]

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[jesusbuiltmyhotrod]

If Bouchard plays crappy, you will be provided advanced stats to tell you he's playing the opposite of crappy, and that you're a crappy poster for suggesting he's playing crappy

It's a crapshoot around here sometimess.

Top guys who play 25 mins plus and handle the puck a lot are going to have some giveaways....I have said this a lot...many here seem to only watch the oilers. Every team has bad/good stretches same with players. Bouch is Elite period.

 

[oXo Cube]

Bouchard with +2 and 24:40 at 5on5 and the usual suspect thinks hes been awful.

Yeah but he had one giveaway in the game. Against the best forechecking team in the entire league.

Didn't you see the giveaway? There was a giveaway.

 

[MessierThanThou]

Didn't you see the giveaway? There was a giveaway.

One? There were TWO! Just ask @Bumblebee Man

 

[alanschu]

One? There were TWO! Just ask @Bumblebee Man

Time to sell high!

 

[Bumblebee Man]

One? There were TWO! Just ask @Bumblebee Man

A giveaway is another term for a turnover. This is when the offensive player with the puck gets hit or makes a play (usually a pass) that causes their team to lose possession of the puck.- Google

 

[Bumblebee Man]

Really happy this debate came up. It's just another perfect example of what I've been saying about stats and people who are incapable of having an honest discussion b/c they need a website to tell them what happened

Bouchard had a giveway to Barkov and a turnover to Bennett for a partial 2 on 1

A giveaway is another term for a turnover. This is when the offensive player with the puck gets hit or makes a play (usually a pass) that causes their team to lose possession of the puck.- Google


Bouchard had an amazing game. Those plays happen, and his overall game was still fantastic. But imagine coming on here after watching that game and pretending one of those plays didn't happen b/c The Score or Yahoo Sports didn't have it on their stat sheet LMAO.. Bush league to say the least

 

[MessierThanThou]

Really happy this debate came up. It's just another perfect example of what I've been saying about stats and people who are incapable of having an honest discussion b/c they need a website to tell them what happened

Bouchard had a giveway to Barkov and a turnover to Bennett for a partial 2 on 1

A giveaway is another term for a turnover. This is when the offensive player with the puck gets hit or makes a play (usually a pass) that causes their team to lose possession of the puck.- Google


Bouchard had an amazing game. Those plays happen, and his overall game was still fantastic. But imagine coming on here after watching that game and pretending one of those plays didn't happen b/c The Score or Yahoo Sports didn't have it on their stat sheet LMAO.. Bush league to say the least

Imagine coming on here and claiming that Bouchard had a bad season because of some giveaways like that? Imagine claiming that your eye test is the only proof you need and almost all stats and metrics are wrong, and then expect to be taken seriously…oh wait, nobody takes you seriously.

 

[McShogun99]

Is Quinn Hughes still the better Dman? Asking for a friend.

 

[Bumblebee Man]

Is Quinn Hughes still the better Dman? Asking for a friend.

I'd say he was more dominant in the regular season. He was the only reason they got any wins.

Bouchard demolishes in the playoffs...the games that matters most.

I'd say Makar, Bouchard, Hughes..all amazing players in their own right

 

[McDoused]

I was listening to tsn overdrive and Odog of all people was praising Bouchard and saying that hes a top 3 dman in the league only behind Makar and Hughes right now.

Hayes and noodles looked dumbfounded thinking guys like McAvoy, Josi and Hedman were all better this year.

Luckily Struds came on and he said Bouchard is a top 5-6 dmen in the league right now.

 

[Fixed to Ruin]

I was listening to tsn overdrive and Odog of all people was praising Bouchard and saying that hes a top 3 dman in the league only behind Makar and Hughes right now.

Hayes and noodles looked dumbfounded thinking guys like McAvoy, Josi and Hedman were all better this year.

Luckily Struds came on and he said Bouchard is a top 5-6 dmen in the league right now.

Josi and Hedman are in their mid 30s. Kinda weird to compare Bouchard at 25 to those guys.

McAvoy is more fair but their are quite different in their skillset.

I think McAvoy is more like Nurse in terms of what role he plays on the Bruins. (McAcoy is way better than Nurse before someone hates me for that comment) While Bouchard is in a similar role like Makar, Q. Hughes.

 

[Tarus]

I was listening to tsn overdrive and Odog of all people was praising Bouchard and saying that hes a top 3 dman in the league only behind Makar and Hughes right now.

Hayes and noodles looked dumbfounded thinking guys like McAvoy, Josi and Hedman were all better this year.

Luckily Struds came on and he said Bouchard is a top 5-6 dmen in the league right now.

There is always a bit of lag time between a player arriving and the media recognizing it. We're basically seeing in real time Bouchard maturing into a dominant number one defenseman after a few years of development.

Even when he was productive before, he would oscillate between good and bad games on a night to night basis(especially defensively), and needed a lot of babysitting for some of his more adventurous plays and lapses in defensive coverage. We're seeing a much more stable game to game performance from him in these playoffs, cutting down on the mistakes significantly, much more consistent decision making in the defensive zone while proving he can play well away from Ekholm, all the while still being dynamic on the breakout and scoring at the pace of star forwards like Barkov.

His reputation will catch up to his actual performance.... eventually.

 

[Throttlehead]

I was listening to tsn overdrive and Odog of all people was praising Bouchard and saying that hes a top 3 dman in the league only behind Makar and Hughes right now.

Hayes and noodles looked dumbfounded thinking guys like McAvoy, Josi and Hedman were all better this year.

Luckily Struds came on and he said Bouchard is a top 5-6 dmen in the league right now.

He is a top 10 dman in the league, no question, his defence suffers in regular season but his passing and IQ is elite.

And BTW any adult who calls himself Odog is an idiot, and Kane would still love to kick his ass after his dumbass comments on Kane. They stopped after Kane said he wished O'Neill still played

I can't imagine they fit in 5 minutes to talk about Bouchard in between Leaf and Cowan talk. They are really hard to watch.