Player Discussion Evan Bouchard

[Bumblebee Man]

And I'm willing to have discussion about the player, but it's hard as you have noticed when you have the bumble bee guy and others unreasonably attack you instead of have a discussion.

You blamed Bouchard for a goal that was Foegles fault.

Not only was a discussion initiated, video proof was presented and even took the time with stills showing that Bouchard was not the culprit.

You ignored all that to continue your one man crusade. You ignored proof. Just like you've ignored other posters who've taken the time to back up their opinions with...you, that thing called facts and stats.

So here you are again, not only lying about how you conduct yourself on here and how level headed you are, but playing the victim card....again

Discussions...now that's funny

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

You blamed Bouchard for a goal that was Foegles fault.

Not only was a discussion initiated, video proof was presented and even took the time with stills showing that Bouchard was not the culprit.

You ignored all that to continue your one man crusade. You ignored proof. Just like you've ignored other posters who've taken the time to back up their opinions with...you, that thing called facts and stats.

So here you are again, not only lying about how you conduct yourself on here and how level headed you are, but playing the victim card....again

Discussions...now that's funny

Stop telling everyone that they play the victim card. You literally are impossible to have a conversation with. Must be a hoot in real life

Let's say i'm wrong on the Foegele goal. Are others not wrong when they say he is a top 5 defensemen in the NHL?

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

Eat your L then if you can’t support your claim. “Nobody in hockey” my ass.

I’ll take my analytics any day of the week over the opinion of someone as uninformed as you.

Some posters make good posts supporting Bouchard. You make some of the worst, You were supporting him while he was playing like absolute ass.

I'm admitting Bouchard is playing very well right now, but you don't admit he played like shit this year.

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

You blamed Bouchard for a goal that was Foegles fault.

Not only was a discussion initiated, video proof was presented and even took the time with stills showing that Bouchard was not the culprit.

You ignored all that to continue your one man crusade. You ignored proof. Just like you've ignored other posters who've taken the time to back up their opinions with...you, that thing called facts and stats.

So here you are again, not only lying about how you conduct yourself on here and how level headed you are, but playing the victim card....again

Discussions...now that's funny

You are just lying. I'm quoting every poster back on here while others have left the thread.

Bouchard is a player that has a cult following. Where were all you guys when he was playing like ass?

You guys just enjoy the confrontation with me. I'm admitting Bouchard is playing great and you still decided to come after me.
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You don't need to keep coming after me as a poster, but you must get off on it. There was no need to re start this during the playoffs.
You also were a bumble bee suit to games so you clearly like attention.

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

You should easily be able to post 10 D that had a better year than him then.

You also think he processed the game too slow, are we sure its not you that processes it too slow and dont understand whats actually going on?

Ya I do think he processes the game slowly and i'll stand by that. He had a horrible year and made plenty of mistakes because of it. He's had 8 or 9 good games and i'm happy for him.

You said he would be team Canada's second best defensemen... When he won't even make the team.... but nobody will call you out for that shit take.

Keep in mind i'm not starting this. I'm just answering the bee guy for starting this out of nowhere.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

Ya I do think he processes the game slowly and i'll stand by that. He had a horrible year and made plenty of mistakes because of it. He's had 8 or 9 good games and i'm happy for him.

You said he would be team Canada's second best defensemen... When he won't even make the team.... but nobody will call you out for that shit take.

Keep in mind i'm not starting this. I'm just answering the bee guy for starting this out of nowhere.

So you cant list 10.

Got it.

And you think team canada took all the best players? There was clearly political reasoning for some of the picks.

Parayko and Pietrangelo made the team, and Bouchard is pretty clearly better than both.

And dont try to say you're happy for him, anytime someone has something good to say about him, you just go OMG YOU ARE SO BIASED LOLULUL

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Some posters make good posts supporting Bouchard. You make some of the worst, You were supporting him while he was playing like absolute ass.

I'm admitting Bouchard is playing very well right now, but you don't admit he played like shit this year.

the only people who thought Bouchard played like absolute ass have brains smoother than bowling balls.

He made some mistakes, sure. That comes with the territory of being an offensive defenceman that has the puck on his stick a lot.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Ya I do think he processes the game slowly and i'll stand by that. He had a horrible year and made plenty of mistakes because of it. He's had 8 or 9 good games and i'm happy for him.

You said he would be team Canada's second best defensemen... When he won't even make the team.... but nobody will call you out for that shit take.

Keep in mind i'm not starting this. I'm just answering the bee guy for starting this out of nowhere.

this is absolutely idiotic man. You don't produce like he does, and have the underlying numbers that he does, by 'having 8 or 9 good games'

 

[Tobias Kahun]

the only people who thought Bouchard played like absolute ass have brains smoother than bowling balls.

He made some mistakes, sure. That comes with the territory of being an offensive defenceman that has the puck on his stick a lot.

This is the same fanbase that complains that ceci cant and doesnt try to make a play with the puck, and then turns around and complains when Bouchard tries to make plays with the puck.

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

the only people who thought Bouchard played like absolute ass have brains smoother than bowling balls.

He made some mistakes, sure. That comes with the territory of being an offensive defenceman that has the puck on his stick a lot.

He made more than "some mistakes" and the mistakes he did make were not little ones. Keep living in fantasy land brother.

You don't need to keep making immature personal attacks. I stand by my Bouchard opinion and many people have the same thoughts.

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

So you cant list 10.

Got it.

And you think team canada took all the best players? There was clearly political reasoning for some of the picks.

Parayko and Pietrangelo made the team, and Bouchard is pretty clearly better than both.

And dont try to say you're happy for him, anytime someone has something good to say about him, you just go OMG YOU ARE SO BIASED LOLULUL

Seriously? I did not because what is the point. Relax dude.

You want it so bad so here you go:


Makar
Hughes
Hedman
Morrissey
Heiskanen
Slavin
Werenski
Seider
Josi
Dahlin

These 10 defensemen had a better season than Evan Bouchard ^

I can keep going but i'm not going to.

 

[HockeyGuy1964]

I've said it before & I'll say it again:

It's very apparent that some posters here absolutely do not care whether the team wins or loses. Their only concern is they will be able to come on here & somehow claim they were right about something.

We're 8-1 in our last 9 & we're complaining about a player that almost singlehandedly turned the LA series around. Of course he made a few mistakes that helped put us in a bad position but he was able to make up for them in the biggest way & on the biggest stage possible.

Thinking players should never make mistakes, in a game of mistakes, is just a fool's journey. Do we not realize that on any goal we score somebody on the opposition has made a mistake, sometimes several, leading up to that goal.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

He made more than "some mistakes" and the mistakes he did make were not little ones. Keep living in fantasy land brother.

You don't need to keep making immature personal attacks. I stand by my Bouchard opinion and many people have the same thoughts.

you shouldn't, and the company you're keeping isn't complimentary. Your opinion is based on feelings rather than facts.

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

you shouldn't, and the company you're keeping isn't complimentary. Your opinion is based on feelings rather than facts.

I forgot analayltics are the be all end all. Since you know so much about hockey where do you rank Bouchard on the list of top defensemen?

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Seriously? I did not because what is the point. Relax dude.

You want it so bad so here you go:


Makar - check out his splits with and without MacKinnon
Hughes - yes
Hedman - no
Morrissey - on par I would say
Heiskanen - the guy that played 50 games?
Slavin - completely different player, but I would say no again
Werenski - yes
Seider - absolutely not
Josi - again, played 56 games and went -26?
Dahlin - on par

These 10 defensemen had a better season than Evan Bouchard ^

I can keep going but i'm not going to.

most of these are reputation based rather than reality.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

I forgot analayltics are the be all end all. Since you know so much about hockey where do you rank Bouchard on the list of top defensemen?

I already told you that. Bouchard was top 10 this year. Which is a step back from last year, but still an extremely good and valuable player.

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

I've said it before & I'll say it again:

It's very apparent that some posters here absolutely do not care whether the team wins or loses. Their only concern is they will be able to come on here & somehow claim they were right about something.

We're 8-1 in our last 9 & we're complaining about a player that almost singlehandedly turned the LA series around. Of course he made a few mistakes that helped put us in a bad position but he was able to make up for them in the biggest way & on the biggest stage possible.

Thinking players should never make mistakes, in a game of mistakes, is just a fool's journey. Do we not realize that on any goal we score somebody on the opposition has made a mistake, sometimes several, leading up to that goal.

I didn't bring this up. The Bumble Bee guy did. I'm just defending myself and the personal attacks. I have shared the same take and posted that we shouldn't be talking about this. That there was no need to bring it up and that we should be enjoying the fact that Bouchard is playing fantastic and we have a real chance here to do something special.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

I didn't bring this up. The Bumble Bee guy did. I'm just defending myself and the personal attacks. I have shared the same take and posted that we shouldn't be talking about this. That there was no need to bring it up and that we should be enjoying the fact that Bouchard is playing fantastic and we have a real chance here to do something special.

Your whole victim complex is insane.

Yet anytime someone disagrees with you and actually provides stats and facts to back it up, you report to personal attacks by calling them incredibly biased.

 

[oXo Cube]

Singlehandedly saved the teams season in Game 3 vs LA and then outscored the Golden Knights 9-2 5 on 5.

I'm sure there's a clip of a bad giveaway people could post though.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

I already told you that. Bouchard was top 10 this year. Which is a step back from last year, but still an extremely good and valuable player.

Its crazy how a defensive stud like Slavin was getting scored on at a higher rate this year than Bouchard.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Your whole victim complex is insane.

Yet anytime someone disagrees with you and actually provides stats and facts to back it up, you report to personal attacks by calling them incredibly biased.

And then complains about personal attacks. Glass houses, etc.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Singlehandedly saved the teams season in Game 3 vs LA and then outscored the Golden Knights 9-2 5 on 5.

I'm sure there's a clip of a bad giveaway people could post though.

There's a decent argument that Bouchard is our Conn Smythe leader so far. Clutch goals, strong production, excellent defensively from Game 2 against LA onward, averaging 26:24 a game. Not bad for a bum.

 

[Bumblebee Man]

There's a decent argument that Bouchard is our Conn Smythe leader so far. Clutch goals, strong production, excellent defensively from Game 2 against LA onward, averaging 26:24 a game. Not bad for a bum.

Uh oh. Yiu said Conn Smythe. That's his trigger word.

Get ready

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

Your whole victim complex is insane.

Yet anytime someone disagrees with you and actually provides stats and facts to back it up, you report to personal attacks by calling them incredibly biased.

Dude F off with victim crap. I have 3 people coming after me on this thread.

Tobias thinks Bouchard would have been Canada’s second best D.
Orange thinks Bouchard’s past regular season was top 10 worthy.
And the Bumble Bee guy is immature and really likes confrontation.

I think Bouchard is in and around the 30th range. Who is really the one that is far off here?

In the playoffs 18 percent of the games Evan was awful. 82 percent of the games Bouchard has been fantastic and if he kept this same consistency up I'd rank him higher than 30th, but so far in his career he hasn't been able to.

You have heard my take a million times and it's not changing so why don't we just enjoy this Stanley Cup run and stop with the pissing match?