SeanMoneyHands
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I still think Toronto should be going after him. Leafs lack offensive D and Karlsson would instantly fix that. Can't put all the pressure on Rielly (who is a #2D).
Speculation: Erik Karlsson on the move at the deadline?
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Karlsson is worth more than $5M. In multiple all encompassing fancy stats he's still one of the top 25 or so defensemen in the league. So his market value is $8M at least. Just because he isn't playing the best hockey of his career and is on a struggling team doesn't mean he's suddenly a 2nd or 3rd pair defenseman.
InsideLaine
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Honestly Montreal would do it if Penguins retain 50 %. Heck I would see Montreal giving a 2nd as well.
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InsideLaine
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Idk, I could see it happen if we trade Savard + Armia for picks at the TDL. Karlsson is a RHD which is a need for the Habs. We imo also need someone to take off some offensive responsibility from Hutson, I dont think he can keep his form until the end of season or the playoffs.
InsideLaine
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Karlsson will definitely be an asset for the 2 remaining seasons of his contract as well. By the end of it Hutson will be hitting his prime (he will hit it very early) and we can acquire a real long-term RHD to replace Karlsson.
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Yes, Montreal should definitely add the worst defensive player in the league to supplement Lane Hutson lmao come on buddy
You can't claim karlsson on a 5x3 is "multiple 1sts to dump" is a weird angle to take while also trying to suggest Hutson is an incredibly valuable player right now.
Both are elite offensive drivers who also give up a ton
- Jun 22, 2018
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yeah ur right rookie defenseman Lane Hutson is definitely not more valuable than 34 year old Erik Karlsson lmfao
Are you not capable of posting on this website without talking about Habs prospects or what
InsideLaine
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So you understand "adding Karlsson to take off some offensive responsibility from Hutson" as putting them on the same pair? Nice.
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InsideLaine
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I cant argue with that sentence (if we take it out of context).
Im not saying that the trade is happening, but I wouldnt be surprised to see it either. For Habs its a great deal. Not so much for Penguins as per what they would realistically expect to get in such a trade.
If you're suggesting Karlsson is significantly less than a 5 mill AAV player, then someone else with similar playstyle and results would also be worth significantly less than 5 mill AAV
Habs Halifax
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No retention required, I’ll send Gallagher in the package. Saves $5M in cap space. Each have two years left. I might consider $1M retention on Gallagher bringing the savings to $6M
Flames 1st (12-18 probably)
Pick one of Roy, Beck, or Mailloux
Best I can do.
Flames 1st (12-18 probably)
Pick one of Roy, Beck, or Mailloux
Best I can do.
I am pretty 100% sure that any player that has the value of 5M would go for at least a 1st at the trade deadline, especially if he is also signed for that for the next 2 years.
Hertl, Hanifin, Henrique, E.Lindholm all got at least a 1st rounder last year.
Karlsson at 5M would get more than that.
In a lot of ways, Karlsson would be a great mentor for Hutson. So there is logic there.
General Fanager
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An aging EK is the last thing The Habs need. If they move Savard at the deadline they will need to find a younger replacement for him. Not just any RHD.
That being said EK in a Habs jersey is enough to troll Sens fans so there is that
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Habs Halifax
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Why? Explain your context.
Gallagher is pretty bad out there bud and the term is the same with Karlsson. Karlsson can still play and the Habs have a better partner for him. It's a very solid bridge to Reinbacher IMO.
Or we add more futures (keep Gallagher) and trade for R Andersson. You're not going to be able to have Gallagher in every deal but I think it's possible with the Karlsson (no retention) offer.
General Fanager
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I only bolded the part where you offered Mailloux. I don't think The Habs should move him. If they do, it should be for someone far younger than EK.
Habs Halifax
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Fair but in trades like this, you got to offer something. Mailloux could end up on the Barron track or he could break out. Hard to know. I still have faith he can reach top 4D but I think it will take a few years.
My goal here is to improve the team over the next 3 years where we have a cap advantage (Demidov's 3 year ELC) and also not to waste Suzuki's prime on that value contract. One of the reasons why you rebuild is you have assets to use to improve the team in your transition years. Habs have a very strong pool and a lot more picks to come as well. I really do believe we are going to use some of these futures in trades.
I was and still am a Gallagher fan. He's still working very hard and is good in the room but if I have a chance to flip him with assets for Karlsson, It's something to ponder about. Or like I said, see what the cost is for R Andersson.
General Fanager
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I agree but it shouldn't be for a 34 year old. As for Mailloux I wouldn't be opposed to dealing him but again it wouldn't be for a 34 year old. Make it for someone who is roughly in the same age group as the current core.....
Habs Halifax
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Good luck getting a top 4RD in this market around age 22-26. Only guy I can think about is Nemec but he needs more maturity. And the Devils asking price will be steep. They are likely after someone they can insert now vs adding futures or a prospect in development.
R Anderson might be the best fit if we can find common ground with the Flames. However, they are in a playoff spot and are probably not selling.
R Pulock? Not sure I like his skating enough to put trust in no noticeable decline in his age 30+ years. Karlsson is a great skater and it's 2 more years. He will remain a top 4RD with the term that is left.
It's in interesting time for the Habs. We should not make any panic moves but I do wonder how we manage our holes while we have our cap advantage. Lets not waste Suzuki's value contract in his prime like we did with Price!
General Fanager
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I said roughly the same age group, maybe 29 and under. Suzuki isn't being wasted. The team is progressing and getting better. They are taking good steps this year and have Demidov coming among others. There is no need to panic and make a deal like this. Trading for EK who has 2 years left feels like a move they would do 2 years from now when they are closer to contending. If the deal is for a long term guy then fine.
Habs Halifax
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We will see how this is managed. Current roster movement up the standings vs what's coming vs any potential trades.
Only way I am interested is Gallagher is in the package. I would not risk having two guys in decline on our roster. In this case, the Habs don't need the Pens to retain on Karlsson.
