GWT: EPL - Matchweek 27

[Savant]

Lot of bad takes/good comedy in here, but you really have me laughing trying to pass off an oft-injured bum in Chiesa as a huge loss for Liverpool. Just because you can say "their only summer signing" doesn't mean it's had any meaningful impact.

Our friend that I spent most of the day talking to loves to use Arsenal's bad transfer window as an excuse. I am simply using Chiesa just to illustrate that Liverpool had an even worse transfer window than Arsenal did. We brought one guy in and all he has done is be injured. Maybe he would be a big loss, maybe he wouldn't but either way LFC has only gotten 25 league minutes out of the only player that they added to the squad

 

[Live in the Now]

Our friend that I spent most of the day talking to loves to use Arsenal's bad transfer window as an excuse. I am simply using Chiesa just to illustrate that Liverpool had an even worse transfer window than Arsenal did. We brought one guy in and all he has done is be injured. Maybe he would be a big loss, maybe he wouldn't but either way LFC has only gotten 25 league minutes out of the only player that they added to the squad

They abandoned their strategy when signing him in the first place. We knew he was often injured, the price was just too good to pass up. Now contrast that to last summer's midfielder signing binge where none of them were often injured and none of them have been injured, selling every often injured midfielder along the way (hence a strategy).

 

[S E P H]

I disagree with the notion that 90 points means it's hard.
It can also mean your league sucks. Except for 2 teams that steamroll everyone.

La Liga.

Can't say I do. He's much better than what he's shown so far.

He chose United though.

Our friend that I spent most of the day talking to loves to use Arsenal's bad transfer window as an excuse. I am simply using Chiesa just to illustrate that Liverpool had an even worse transfer window than Arsenal did. We brought one guy in and all he has done is be injured. Maybe he would be a big loss, maybe he wouldn't but either way LFC has only gotten 25 league minutes out of the only player that they added to the squad

If I had access to Arsenal's transfer window, you wouldn't believe the work I would put in.

It would be Gardens of Babylon type of insane beauty, elegance, and supreme aura that you couldn't look away.

 

[Evilo]

He chose United though.

Did he?
He chose Real over PSG, but they wanted to give up 20M max for him. When he got that info, he reached back to PSG and PSG said no (and Lille asked for more from them) because he chose Real over them.
United was the only big team left. That's the reason they signed him.
He's IMO the best CB youngster in the world and it's a pity he's now developping in somewhat toxic environment. I was happy to see ETH gone, but even then it's hardly ideal. At least he can toughen up mentally in such a situation, but he's still awfully young to deal with this crap.

 

[Evilo]

Seems like Khusanov is playing better and showing glimpses of his qualities

 

[luiginb]

He's IMO the best CB youngster in the world

Cubarsi is also over a year younger.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

Seems like Khusanov is playing better and showing glimpses of his qualities

He’s been good.

But there is a movement on city fans behalf to overhype his performances becuase of his insanely bad start.

 

[Evilo]

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Cubarsi is also over a year younger.

I'd take Yoro tbh. He's much quicker and was never in a comparable team situation as Cubarsi and yet dominated.

He’s been good.

But there is a movement on city fans behalf to overhype his performances becuase of his insanely bad start.

I saw extensive looks of his Spurs game and he definitely was impressive.
Doesn't change his awful start no doubt.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

I'd take Yoro tbh. He's much quicker and was never in a comparable team situation as Cubarsi and yet dominated.


I saw extensive looks of his Spurs game and he definitely was impressive.
Doesn't change his awful start no doubt.

Cubarsi is being asked to lead the line on a team fighting for trophies on all fronts. Pretty much unheard of for his age. Yoro could be better but he’s X as of now.

He has been im just saying there is a movement to glorify him.

 

[Evilo]

Cubarsi is being asked to lead the line on a team fighting for trophies on all fronts. Pretty much unheard of for his age. Yoro could be better but he’s X as of now.

He has been im just saying there is a movement to glorify him.

On a team that's dominating most opponents.
Yoro did this on a team that was seen as 5-10th in L1 and he was instantly the best CB on the team and one the stat leaders in the league.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

On a team that's dominating most opponents.
Yoro did this on a team that was seen as 5-10th in L1 and he was instantly the best CB on the team and one the stat leaders in the league.

Dominating with his help

 

[Savant]

Right now it’s Cubarsi. I can still consider that Yoro has a higher ceiling, but this year has not been good for him. Honestly if I was Madrid (or PSG) I’d try to get him out of United. Hes not hitting that ceiling if he is staying there long term (or short term)

Khusanov will also definitely be a good one. Hes definitely got a bit more to him than I thought he did. Anyone can have a bad debut. He’s been solid since

 

[Evilo]

Right now it’s Cubarsi. I can still consider that Yoro has a higher ceiling, but this year has not been good for him. Honestly if I was Madrid (or PSG) I’d try to get him out of United. Hes not hitting that ceiling if he is staying there long term (or short term)

Khusanov will also definitely be a good one. Hes definitely got a bit more to him than I thought he did. Anyone can have a bad debut. He’s been solid since

Lol this year hasn't been good for him.
He was injured most of the season.
Lol.

 

[Savant]

Lol this year hasn't been good for him.
He was injured most of the season.
Lol.

Right. That’s why I can still see the higher ceiling.

 

[Evilo]

But I mean you say "right now". If you feel like this season sure. If you mean their career so far no. IMO at least.

 

[Epictetus]

You think he can be suited to Amiron's back 3, Evilo?

 

[Savant]

You think he can be suited to Amiron's back 3, Evilo?

Last season Yoro grades out pretty similar to Diomande (who is older) from Sporting. I’m sure Yoro could do this. I’d be more concerned about the situation in Manchester as a whole. Either way this a lost year for him, which is a shame. I think he can get back on track; but maybe not at Utd

 

[S E P H]

Did he?
He chose Real over PSG, but they wanted to give up 20M max for him. When he got that info, he reached back to PSG and PSG said no (and Lille asked for more from them) because he chose Real over them.
United was the only big team left. That's the reason they signed him.
He's IMO the best CB youngster in the world and it's a pity he's now developping in somewhat toxic environment. I was happy to see ETH gone, but even then it's hardly ideal. At least he can toughen up mentally in such a situation, but he's still awfully young to deal with this crap.

Yoro reminds me a lot of VvD so I believe in his potential, but if that's the case, why not just stay at Lille? He was glory hunt and got it up his arse as a return.

 

[Evilo]

You think he can be suited to Amiron's back 3, Evilo?

Yes, he can play in a back 3. Just not with the Maguires of the world

Yoro reminds me a lot of VvD so I believe in his potential, but if that's the case, why not just stay at Lille? He was glory hunt and got it up his arse as a return.

He wanted to move on and Lille wanted to cash in.