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Would you say that Hutson is the Habs' main scorer?
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He’s a secondary assist merchant? Can you prove he’s not ? Why are you so defensive about what he is, based on what he’s displayed at the NHL level.
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You never do so it's a good idea.I can’t post something of substance that refutes his point so I’ll ignore it
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The thing I noticed about Michkov is that not only is he a smurf but he’s slow as hell. That makes him a liability whenever he’s on the ice. The points he put up is negated by his terrible defense. Flyers will need at least 3 forwards better than him to have any team success.
You should be thankful, the slam dunk decision to draft Michkov (who only wanted to go to Philly) is probably the only positive move Briere has done in his time there.
Hey, hes racking up points in meaningless games at the end of the season.
Let him be.
Calling him a secondary assist merchant is laughable. He's leading the league in pass completions to the slot. He may not be scoring a ton of goals, but he is unquestionably the main play driver on the Habs.
I’m calling a spade a spade? Lol what? A gigantic portion of his scoring is secondary assists, wild.
getting secondary assists is easy when you play on one of the most powerful offenses in the league.
Surprised Drysdale or whoever plays D for the flyers doesn't have more leeching off Michkov. 14th overall pick Cam York?
Surprised Drysdale or whoever plays D for the flyers doesn't have more leeching off Michkov. 14th overall pick Cam York?
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I think Hutson is one of the weirdest case of a player labelled a defensive liability which is not fair based on his progress/improvement and his high hockey IQ.
I will explain:
First of all I do believe there is a stigma about undersized players (forward or defenseman) that they are liability defensively and easily pushed over or bullied. A bit more so for defenseman. While it is not false in a sense that smaller players will always strugle against larger sized player and yes clearing the front of the net is not ideal when all players are stronger and bigger than you but that's only one part of the role. The other more important part is limiting turnover, create offense from the defense and limiting scoring chances for the opponent. I think Hutson is a top defenseman in that role.
The other part is how you react with the puck on your stick and how you react without the puck. I will also add on how to use your smaller frame to your advantage and this is where Hutson shine. Hutson has been and I will add by far the best player at transitioning the puck from defense to offense and to help create offense at 5 on 5 or on the PP. His smaller frame allow him to be very shifty and hard to contain as well as him being able to use his stick more defensively than using his frame, he is smart, he does not over commit or rarely try to do too much. That has made him very valuable for the Habs, I will even add that if you removed him from the Habs this season, they would be near the bottom part of the standing and not in playoff contention. He is the Habs MVP as a 20 years old.
The other part, which is also typical HF. Is the drafted rank of a player. Although HFBoarders will rarely admit it, they do have some biases on the projection of a player if they were drafted outside the first round. Or at least it takes longer time to accept it. If Hutson is the exact same player, same size, same offense but he was drafted top 5 overall, it would be more acceptable for him to be a calder candiate as he has higher draft pedigree. I could also add size if a player is listed as 6'4 instead of 5'10 with the exact same stats he is instantly considered better defensively although it might not be the case and a top calder candidate for sure.
I will explain:
First of all I do believe there is a stigma about undersized players (forward or defenseman) that they are liability defensively and easily pushed over or bullied. A bit more so for defenseman. While it is not false in a sense that smaller players will always strugle against larger sized player and yes clearing the front of the net is not ideal when all players are stronger and bigger than you but that's only one part of the role. The other more important part is limiting turnover, create offense from the defense and limiting scoring chances for the opponent. I think Hutson is a top defenseman in that role.
The other part is how you react with the puck on your stick and how you react without the puck. I will also add on how to use your smaller frame to your advantage and this is where Hutson shine. Hutson has been and I will add by far the best player at transitioning the puck from defense to offense and to help create offense at 5 on 5 or on the PP. His smaller frame allow him to be very shifty and hard to contain as well as him being able to use his stick more defensively than using his frame, he is smart, he does not over commit or rarely try to do too much. That has made him very valuable for the Habs, I will even add that if you removed him from the Habs this season, they would be near the bottom part of the standing and not in playoff contention. He is the Habs MVP as a 20 years old.
The other part, which is also typical HF. Is the drafted rank of a player. Although HFBoarders will rarely admit it, they do have some biases on the projection of a player if they were drafted outside the first round. Or at least it takes longer time to accept it. If Hutson is the exact same player, same size, same offense but he was drafted top 5 overall, it would be more acceptable for him to be a calder candiate as he has higher draft pedigree. I could also add size if a player is listed as 6'4 instead of 5'10 with the exact same stats he is instantly considered better defensively although it might not be the case and a top calder candidate for sure.
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He's 7th in primary assists among all dmen. He has 23.
Ghost has 11 primary assists and 23 secondary.
Most dmen will get more secondary assists, because it's simply the logic of the game, as they are the ones who initiate the rush and are the ones backed up to the blue line in the offensive zone.
All you're doing is showing you have the hockey knowledge of a turnip.
Calling a player a "secondary assist merchant" has negative connotations that implies a player is piggy-backing off the success of more skilled teammates, and lacks the ability to drive play. This description so OBVIOUSLY does not apply to Hutson, and your obsession with continually applying it to him demonstrates your inability to be even remotely objective.
Calling someone a turnip doesn’t change the facts that someone is collecting secondary assists to rack up points at a high rate. Don’t need to name call bro! Geez
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Except both of them did this exact same stat lines last season.
That would be because secondary assists also count as points, and are in many cases just as crucial, if not more, to the goal being scored than primary assists.
Suzuki is on pace for 10 more points YOY, Caufield for 6 more. So, no, they didn't lol
Grate n Colorful Oz
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Someone is a defenseman. Defensemen typically get a higher ratio of secondary assists than forwards.
Hutson is 7th among all dmen for primary assists. He's 4th for secondary assists. There's only a small difference in ratio there, compared to the entire field, showing that the one thing you harp about is pointless. Notwithstanding the fact not all assists are equal to their rank. Sometimes the secondary is more important than the primary.
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Quinn Hughes rookie season
20 primary assists in 68 games, 28 primary points
Lane Hutson rookie season
23 primary assists in 73 games, 28 primary points
20 primary assists in 68 games, 28 primary points
Lane Hutson rookie season
23 primary assists in 73 games, 28 primary points
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