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Epic Calder Race 2024-25

Mattb124 said:
You have that last part wrong. While you are correct that the odds offered are not true odds due to the bookmaker margin, the relative odds in situations like this are generally reflective of who the bookmakers believe will win.
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I've spoken about this on other threads but here goes, listed odds aren't some pure snowy virginal numbers granted by some magical computer manned by cherubim. Numbers get worked all the time. Ever wonder why for the longest time the Leafs had pretty decent odds at winning the Cup despite the fact that they kept crapping the bed? Toronto has a crap-ton of fans, exciting that fan base and getting them to wager on their beloved Leafs was super important to these organizations. Odds making is an essential element in working a mark.

p.s. I've heard that in a recent The Athletic staff poll Lane Hutson came in a distant 3rd.
 
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Mobiandi said:
Too many highs and lows. It’s a nice rookie campaign but the best? Not even close. Goodness Habs fans are so precious about their players. You’d think they were perennial contenders in the Atlantic
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Playing the leafs has been rough on our rookies this year. Bad losses =\ bad players, especially talking about rookies
 
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Lafleurs Guy said:
I think it’s been Hutson’s to lose for most of the year.
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Its been mind blowing that this hasn't been the consensus since he took over the rookie scoring lead a couple months ago.

Wolf is awesome, will be a top 3-5 goalie in the for the next dozen years, but, and i mean no offense when i say this but his season is statistically unimpressive . Could he be a calder winner with a different class? Absolutely.


Celebrinis dozen missed games really hurt his chances.

30 g 75 points in 82 games sounds so much more impressive than 26 goals and 63 points in 70 games, especially when a defenseman is on pace for 65+.

Michkov has been too hot and cold to win with this class.

But there are still 15 games to play and the general feels feeling can change in a week.
 
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Frank Drebin said:
Its been mind blowing that this hasn't been the consensus since he took over the rookie scoring lead a couple months ago.

Wolf is awesome, will be a top 3-5 goalie in the for the next dozen years, but, and i mean no offense when i say this but his season is statistically unimpressive . Could he be a calder winner with a different class? Absolutely.


Celebrinis dozen missed games really hurt his chances.

30 g 75 points in 82 games sounds so much more impressive than 26 goals and 63 points in 70 games, especially when a defenseman is on pace for 65+.

Michkov has been too hot and cold to win with this class.

But there are still 15 games to play and the general feels feeling can change in a week.
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I think it has been the consensus. Mitchkov got out to an early lead and he fell off. I think Hutson took the lead after that. Still think he deserves it the most.

But again, the others are having fantastic years. It’s going to be a tight race.
 
Lafleurs Guy said:
I think it has been the consensus. Mitchkov got out to an early lead and he fell off. I think Hutson took the lead after that. Still think he deserves it the most.

But again, the others are having fantastic years. It’s going to be a tight race.
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...Hutson & Celebrini have both looked phenomenal this year and Wolf is the only reason Calgary is anywhere...it's gonna come down to the wire, imo...
 
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Frank Drebin said:
Its been mind blowing that this hasn't been the consensus since he took over the rookie scoring lead a couple months ago.

Wolf is awesome, will be a top 3-5 goalie in the for the next dozen years, but, and i mean no offense when i say this but his season is statistically unimpressive . Could he be a calder winner with a different class? Absolutely.


Celebrinis dozen missed games really hurt his chances.

30 g 75 points in 82 games sounds so much more impressive than 26 goals and 63 points in 70 games, especially when a defenseman is on pace for 65+.

Michkov has been too hot and cold to win with this class.

But there are still 15 games to play and the general feels feeling can change in a week.
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21 goals sounds so much more impressive than 4.
 
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BigDaddyLurch said:
...Hutson & Celebrini have both looked phenomenal this year and Wolf is the only reason Calgary is anywhere...it's gonna come down to the wire, imo...
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Best race in years.

I say Hutson's in the lead and I think he'll win. But that's based on him continuing his pace. If he slows down at all, he'll get passed. But as it is, it looks like he's going to break the assist record and get to 70 if not really close. I just don't see how you can pass him over if he does that.

But... like I said, if Wolf leads Calgary to the playoffs? He's going to get a lot of votes. And deservedly so.
 
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TheDoldrums said:
This applies to every player in the league lol. Great plays don’t always result in production and it’s not exclusive to your favourite teams young star. Sorry I just love how meaningless this sentiment is, carry on y’all.
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My point is he consistently makes strong plays to get transition started, and even if he doesn't end up getting a point on the play or being directly involved in scoring he is still a huge reason the goal was scored.
 
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EveryDay said:
Agreed.

If Lane was playing on any other team in the league he would be winning that award 100% but since he's a MTL player he's overrated.
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I think Lane is playing for a team that provides him the ideal situation to win the Calder. I get that being on a Canadian team might hurt, a tiny bit, but that is offset by playing in the Eastern timezone compared to Celebrini in the Pacific timezone and Wolf in Mountain.

Hutson is in almost the perfect situation for a highly skill offensive D to put up points.
  • He has no star level PP QB to take PP minutes away from him.
  • Weak D so top 4 minutes are easy to come by
  • High-end to Elite PP forwards who can capitalize on the opportunities he helps create
  • Elite PP playmaker in Suzuki
If you compare that to the situation he would have found himself in if he played for Calgary, Philly or SJ I think playing for Montreal looks really good.
 
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Fledgemyhedge said:
michkov last 5gp 0 0 -6 after his hot stretch. Too inconsistent looking like the odd one out now.
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This is like his 4th or 5th 5+ game scoreless drought this season. Pretty sure he was point per game through 27 games to start the season as well. That’s a massive drop off.
 
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