GDT: ENEMIES OF JERKDOM IN RALEIGH STILL HAVEN'T LEFT

[chaz4hockey]

I’m beginning to think one of the main pieces they’ll be after this summer will be top 4 RD. As much potential as Morrow has, he very likely isn’t ready for top 4 mins next season. Seems like Anderson out of Calgary would be a perfect fit next to Slavin. Maybe Morrow + a forward prospect/picks gets that done.

I don’t think there’s a snowball’s chance they end up with Marner, but I’d love to be wrong there. I do think they end up with another top 6 winger, be it Ehlers or Boeser and a short-term 2C band-aid, maybe a Nelson, Granlund or Duchene. They should have ample cap
space for all that, be able to bank a sizeable amount for a deadline acquisition or 2 and still be flexible enough to pay their RFAs.

To pair with Slavin, I would want a big, very capable Right Defenseman, but I don't think it will be Rasmus: Rasmus Andersson on pace for the worst plus-minus in Calgary Flames franchise history - The Win Column

btw: team needs to set aside future cap space for Stankoven, Blake and Nikishin. If we sign one or two top wingers, that would seem to block Nadeau. He then becomes a trade target?

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

To pair with Slavin, I would want a big, very capable Right Defenseman, but I don't think it will be Rasmus: Rasmus Andersson on pace for the worst plus-minus in Calgary Flames franchise history - The Win Column

btw: team needs to set aside future cap space for Stankoven, Blake and Nikishin. If we sign one or two top wingers, that would seem to block Nadeau. He then becomes a trade target?

My prediction is that one of Blake/Stankoven/Nadeau will be a trade chip for a 2C. Considering that some teams are re-tooling, there will be some options there.

 

[chaz4hockey]

My prediction is that one of Blake/Stankoven/Nadeau will be a trade chip for a 2C. Considering that some teams are re-tooling, there will be some options there.

Agreed...I think Stankoven's play both in regular season and the playoffs makes him a Tulsky/RBA keeper.

FWIW: Blake has dropped off considerably since the playoff start but yet was brilliant much of the year.

I don't want the squad to get too small given the physical nature of the playoffs (although Aho, Jarvis and Stanoven play bigger than their size in the playoffs).

We can't forget about Artamonov as he is already built like a rock and with his KHL contract expiring next May, he could also force his way into the lineup soon too.

It's a dilemma but a good one to have.

 

[Rad ChaLose]

Some choice by Tom Wilson mocking the surge when his team is down 2-0 and on the brink of going down 3-1 in the series.

Unlike last series, his antics aren’t working (his actual play has been more effective).I think Martinook may have been chirping him during that moment, but there is a clip on Twitter that shows him doing the surge and the Canes bench in the background not paying him any sort of attention.

I wonder now, at home on the verge of elimination, does he double down on the shenanigans, try to run someone, or simply play hockey and try to score goals to get his team back in it? Personally, I think the time to goon it up has passed, it’s too late. If he wanted to run someone, or get under the Canes skin, he should’ve done it earlier - the Caps need a win now. Hilarious that the broadcast was chuckling about and commending him last night despite the fact that the Canes didn’t engage and are thoroughly dismantling the Caps.

 

[spockBokk]

To pair with Slavin, I would want a big, very capable Right Defenseman, but I don't think it will be Rasmus: Rasmus Andersson on pace for the worst plus-minus in Calgary Flames franchise history - The Win Column

btw: team needs to set aside future cap space for Stankoven, Blake and Nikishin. If we sign one or two top wingers, that would seem to block Nadeau. He then becomes a trade target?

Plus-minus aside, I think Anderson would be one of the more likely targets if they go for an RD to pair with Slavin, based on availability.

Ad I’ve said before, out of Stankoven, Blake and Nadeau, I think Nadeau would end up the one traded this summer while his value should be quite high. I just don’t see the room for him with Blake, Stankoven and Jarvis already on roster as undersized RWs. Also, I don’t think Nadeau is necessarily a “fit” for RBA hockey, while obviously Stankoven and Blake are. Don’t get me wrong, I’d love to see Nadeau prove me wrong and become a perennial threat on his off-wing, just don’t see that happening.

 

[Navin R Slavin]

Trade for Dobson and there are some juicy RFAs to offer sheet with all that cap space.

This feels like an absolutely perfect opportunity to throw out a crazy one year offer sheet. Just make sure to lock up our own key rfas before that happens.

(Edit: I think that the Canes are uniquely positioned as an elite team that still has key positions to fill, and that could be *extremely* attractive to young players on bad/tweener teams who want to win now.)

 

[User13452]

New compensation thresholds for NHL offer sheets revealed

Will there be more offer sheets this summer after the St. Louis Blues found success getting Philip Broberg and Dylan Holloway from Edmonton? With the salary cap rising, here are the new offer sheet compensation thresholds.

t.co

4 firsts for anyone over 11.7. To me if you’re offering sheeting any of Knies or Bouchard you’d have to go the highest route. We do have extra firsts now with Dallas picks we wanted to use a couple firsts on an offer sheet. 9.3-11.7 is 2 first a second and a third

 

[Borsig]

No to stank nadeau or Blake for the 3000th time.

We are on the cusp of a transitional dynasty. Don't blow the future. Stank is a center. Let rod mentor him

 

[Chrispy]

New compensation thresholds for NHL offer sheets revealed

Will there be more offer sheets this summer after the St. Louis Blues found success getting Philip Broberg and Dylan Holloway from Edmonton? With the salary cap rising, here are the new offer sheet compensation thresholds.

t.co

4 firsts for anyone over 11.7. To me if you’re offering sheeting any of Knies or Bouchard you’d have to go the highest route. We do have extra firsts now with Dallas picks we wanted to use a couple firsts on an offer sheet. 9.3-11.7 is 2 first a second and a third

Carolina would need to reacquire the 2026 third round pick from Utah to do any offer sheet with a third, which is every category from $4.7M to $11.7M AAV.

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

New compensation thresholds for NHL offer sheets revealed

Will there be more offer sheets this summer after the St. Louis Blues found success getting Philip Broberg and Dylan Holloway from Edmonton? With the salary cap rising, here are the new offer sheet compensation thresholds.

t.co

4 firsts for anyone over 11.7. To me if you’re offering sheeting any of Knies or Bouchard you’d have to go the highest route. We do have extra firsts now with Dallas picks we wanted to use a couple firsts on an offer sheet. 9.3-11.7 is 2 first a second and a third

The guy out there who I genuinely think is worth a 4 1sts offer sheet is Dobson. There are edge cases for Knies and Bouchard, but there's a real risk that their offensive numbers are inflated while playing on the PP and 5-on-5 with Matthews/Nylander/Marner and McDavid/Draisaitl, respectively. A healthy Dobson put up Norris numbers last year while playing with the likes of Barzal, Horvat, and Anders Lee. Not even the same stratosphere of support, and a Slavin-Dobson pairing would automatically become the best in the league.

 

[chaz4hockey]

The guy out there who I genuinely think is worth a 4 1sts offer sheet is Dobson. There are edge cases for Knies and Bouchard, but there's a real risk that their offensive numbers are inflated while playing on the PP and 5-on-5 with Matthews/Nylander/Marner and McDavid/Draisaitl, respectively. A healthy Dobson put up Norris numbers while playing with the likes of Barzal, Horvat, and Anders Lee. Not even the same stratosphere of support.

I like Knies. Not as positive on Dobson (Islander fans are really negative on him). Bouchard, well he is great offensively but a liability defensively. I think Nikishin is our PP captain next year which makes Bouchard surplus (btw: I watched Nikishin trade full cross ice passes to Svech in warmups.....his passes were crisp, on the tape but yet seemed effortless on his part).

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

I like Knies. Not as positive on Dobson (Islander fans are really negative on him). Bouchard, well he is great offensively but a liability defensively. I think Nikishin is our PP captain next year which makes Bouchard surplus (btw: I watched Nikishin trade full cross ice passes to Svech in warmups.....his passes were crisp, on the tape but yet seemed effortless on his part).

I mean, the Bouchard profile could be killer with Slavin. A juiced and loaded version of Dougie Hamilton. I'm not as high on Nikishin from an offensive perspective as others are. I think he'll turn out to be a very good player, but more in the Ekholm mold as an excellent defensive D.

 

[MinJaBen]

This feels like an absolutely perfect opportunity to throw out a crazy one year offer sheet. Just make sure to lock up our own key rfas before that happens.

(Edit: I think that the Canes are uniquely positioned as an elite team that still has key positions to fill, and that could be *extremely* attractive to young players on bad/tweener teams who want to win now.)

What bad/tweener teams don't have the money to match the offer? Offer sheets work when a team is up against it cap wise, and I don't see that as likely given everyone is getting a boatload of cap space this summer.

 

[robbieberns]

My thing with Dobson is that Slavin is a liability eraser and there’s nowhere better in the league for a guy like Dobson to figure his game out and blossom than right next to CC Slavin.

 

[Navin R Slavin]

What bad/tweener teams don't have the money to match the offer? Offer sheets work when a team is up against it cap wise, and I don't see that as likely given everyone is getting a boatload of cap space this summer.

A fair point. I was thinking the crazy one year, $20m offer might stretch a lot of teams, but that probably isn't worth the 4 firsts it would cost to do it unless it's a pretty perfect fit.

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

What bad/tweener teams don't have the money to match the offer? Offer sheets work when a team is up against it cap wise, and I don't see that as likely given everyone is getting a boatload of cap space this summer.

That's why a 4 1sts offer sheet is more likely to be effective with Knies and Bouchard than with Dobson, even though I think Dobson is objectively the one guy actually worth it. Toronto and Edmonton have major questions about how certain pieces are going to fit while also paying for their big stars. A Knies offer sheet may force Toronto to go full UFA value to retain Marner, which would squander depth elsewhere.

 

[TheBigLetowski]

Carolina would need to reacquire the 2026 third round pick from Utah to do any offer sheet with a third, which is every category from $4.7M to $11.7M AAV.

I didn't realize you cannot use picks acquired in trades, only your own. Here I was hoping we could use the extra 1sts we got from Dallas.

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

A fair point. I was thinking the crazy one year, $20m offer might stretch a lot of teams, but that probably isn't worth the 4 firsts it would cost to do it unless it's a pretty perfect fit.

The highest that the Canes can legally go is 1 year, $17.6M.

 

[User13452]

Problem is the player still has to sign the offer sheet. Knies has made it known he’s not interested but could 15 mill on a 1 year deal change his mind maybe?

 

[SvechneJerk]

As I've said before, I don't think Marner is in Toronto's plans moving forward, UNLESS they manage to win the Cup. I mean, they were interested in trading him away at the TDL. I believe that Knies is their higher priority, at this point.

As someone who'd definitely take Knies on our team, Cuylle would be a cheaper option, if you're looking for the PF type. Their stats & measurables are pretty similar, aren't they? Plus, you'd get to mess with Rags, which is a bonus, no?

Anyway, I'm on board with adding Marner. I think he'd fit the system really well.

 

[WreckingCrew]

Also....



Carrier was penalized for this, by the way.

Not only was Carrier penalized, but neither Carlsson nor Strome, who combined for 8 jabs, got even a 2 min penalty.

It honestly feels worthy of a main board thread just for the lolz and watching Craps fans try to rationalize/justify it

 

[LakeLivin]

The highlights made me lol at :35 if you watch this clip. 22 & 82

I didn't notice that live but saw it during highlights at the intermission and meant to comment on it, lol. And that was right after a beautiful screen that contributed to the goal.

 

[AhosDatsyukian]

New compensation thresholds for NHL offer sheets revealed

Will there be more offer sheets this summer after the St. Louis Blues found success getting Philip Broberg and Dylan Holloway from Edmonton? With the salary cap rising, here are the new offer sheet compensation thresholds.

t.co

4 firsts for anyone over 11.7. To me if you’re offering sheeting any of Knies or Bouchard you’d have to go the highest route. We do have extra firsts now with Dallas picks we wanted to use a couple firsts on an offer sheet. 9.3-11.7 is 2 first a second and a third

I don't really want to play the offer sheet game but if we were going to for Knies I'd do 1 year $9.35M for 1st, 2nd and 3rd round picks. Leafs could have a really tough time matching that and not sure it'd be possible if they keep Marner and especially not if they keep Tavares too. We'd have to negotiate a lower longer term deal though ahead of time like we did with Koko. Obviously risk there that he could renege and we're stuck with high cap hit on QO or him going to UFA. Which is why I'd prefer not to do it. I don't think we could successfully pull any top tier RFAs on long term deals without both overpaying in picks via offersheet and overpaying on the contract to make it so a team wouldn't match. Hence why I don't want to play the offer sheet game.

 

[WreckingCrew]

After reading the MB GDT from last night, pretty sure "Lazlo" is Wilson's burner account. Them trying to argue with @Anton Dubinchuk was like Wilson trying to taunt us while LOSING both the game and series...like just clowning yourself "bro"

Also, who knew Wilson was a seer, he was celebrating the Canes win before the end of the 2nd period

 

[TheBigLetowski]

I'm not saying never, but wasn't Knies on record saying he wouldn't be interested in signing an offer sheet? Knies is great and all but let's use some cap/assets for a 2C. I would be shocked if Toronto doesn't re-sign him.