Post-Game Talk: End of the Shanascam? | Leafs Blown Out at Home Again

[Daisy Jane]

That's precisely what happened and the reason for profit sharing. Bettman rectified an inbalance in the system. Now another imbalance needs to be rectified. We give our profit to Florida so they're able to spend to the cap. No other North American league does this OR has a hard cap.

I don'tknow what it is called. but the NBA has it. that you can spend past the cap but not get in trouble? like. a tax? or something?

 

[Smif]

I don'tknow what it is called. but the NBA has it. that you can spend past the cap but not get in trouble? like. a tax? or something?

Luxury tax.

 

[Daisy Jane]

maybe we should post this up in the locker room next year

 

[ITM]

Can’t make heads or tails of this?

I should be working, but I'm pantsing my responses here, lol. Apologies: Edited the correct gif in place of the captured picture of it.

That's Chief Bromden from One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest.

The scene - and apologies for the spoiler in the event you haven't seen it - is when "Chief" decides he's had enough of the hospital he and co-star Jack Nicholson presently reside in. For Jack's character (i.e. McMurphy) that sink was always a totem of frustration to be conquered, but he couldn't. He could never lift the thing out of its base. One day, finds out Chief, essentially in a catatonic stupor, has the potential to move it. And one night, Chief for all manner of unknown motivational reasons to him, picks the f-er up and throws it through the window.

This to say, our Chief isn't going to Matthews to petition him, any more than that Chief petitioned the sink to move. Or least that's my hope and intuition talking.

 

[Martin Skoula]

agree to disagree here

there are other north american sports (baseball, basketball, football) with really passionate fanbases but they don't complain and actually go out there and compete not lay an egg like they did in game 5 and game 7

same is true for other countries where they play soccer. think of Barcelona, ManU, Chelsea, etc..

hell cricket is essentially followed by 1 billion people in india as there is basically international competition (to my knowledge), and the cricket players get called out every freakin day but they still don't blow same is the case in Australia, and other big cricket markets. Time magazine back in the day had done an article to show big sports and expectations around the globe.

Same is true for aussie rules football

Leafs are the only team apparently on the planet where fan/media expectations is just too much no matter how much the athlete gets paid in signing bonuses, commercials, sponsorships, etc...

Its quite baffling!

It’s not like they need to put up 3PPG runs to turn the heat off either. The guys facing the heat could buy themselves literal years of benefit of the doubt by fighting Marchand and Tkachuk. Gilmour was here 4 seasons and got a statue, it doesn’t take that much to reach “your kids and grandkids will never pay for a beer in this city” status.

 

[New User Name]

Just name the ones you know of.

A Massive Trade Issue is Arising for Canadian Teams

While there are many upsides to playing for Canadian teams, including the most passionate fans in the league, and some

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[AllHeartNoSkill]

agree to disagree here

there are other north american sports (baseball, basketball, football) with really passionate fanbases but they don't complain and actually go out there and compete not lay an egg like they did in game 5 and game 7

same is true for other countries where they play soccer. think of Barcelona, ManU, Chelsea, etc..

hell cricket is essentially followed by 1 billion people in india as there is basically international competition (to my knowledge), and the cricket players get called out every freakin day but they still don't blow same is the case in Australia, and other big cricket markets. Time magazine back in the day had done an article to show big sports and expectations around the globe.

Same is true for aussie rules football

Leafs are the only team apparently on the planet where fan/media expectations is just too much no matter how much the athlete gets paid in signing bonuses, commercials, sponsorships, etc...

It’s quite baffling!

And the players don’t seem to realize that the reason all these big brands want these guys in their commercials is BECAUSE the fans are so passionate. I don’t begrudge these guys getting endorsement deals at all, but they they ought to know it’s the popularity of being a Leaf that makes those deals so lucrative.

 

[New User Name]

Oh please do, I expect it will be hilarious.

He has a lovely wife, lovely daughter who is married to a lovely golfer. All his children are lovely.

 

[Cleetus]

maybe we should post this up in the locker room next year

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they would just cover it up with a towel lol

 

[The Masters]

luked fox

'Heartbreaking': Maple Leafs must end era of Marner, Shanahan

During Mitch Marner’s final shift as a Maple Leaf, the fans of the team he grew up loving booed when his blade touched the puck. This is how it ends. For Marner. For president Brendan Shanahan. For real this time.

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“I can’t explain right now, nor do I want to, (Games) 5 and 7 at home. That's obviously things that we got to look at and talk about as an organization,” coach Craig Berube said. “For me, it's all between the ears. It's a mindset. These guys are capable of doing it.”
No, they’re not.
Not together at least. Not anymore. Not when it matters.
“I don’t think it's because people don’t care. I think it's … I don't know what exactly. But I just don't think we had our best stuff in the most important game of the season. That's unacceptable,” Rielly said.
Also wrong. It has been acceptable.
Under Shanahan, Leafs management has accepted all of this core’s crunch-time shrivelling and rewarded it with raises and trade protection.
And now that same front office will watch the best asset in the summer of 2025 walk for zero return.
That Berube formed a line centred by Matthews and flanked by pending UFAs Marner and Tavares in Period 3 was like reading the last stanza of a tragic poem.
“They were the better team tonight. They were the more desperate team tonight. They were the more aggressive team,” Berube said. “You got to have a level of desperation, determination. And I didn't feel we had it.”



Please don’t get us twisted.
The Panthers are a fantastic team; they deserve credit here. Toronto’s stars are incredibly skilled; they may well get their rings one day, like Phil Kessel and Nazem Kadri did. Berube and GM Brad Treliving did a heckuva job improving the defence and implementing a more playoff-suitable game plan; they should be safe.
But the scars for the five longest-serving Leafs cannot be healed, and the track record of the president who refused to break up the band is too tainted.
The milk had already spoiled, and they served it to us anyway.
“If you look at the heat this team catches, it's actually really unfortunate,” said Brad Marchand, the oldest and best player in the series. “They've been working at building something really big here for a while, and they were a different brand of hockey this year.
“They're getting crucified, and I don't think it's justified. Just because they weren’t able to do it. I mean, we're a really good, deep team too, you know? And that's how things go sometimes.”
Sometimes. Not nine times.
Remember: the Leafs’ best players were all healthy and in their prime. They weren’t undone by a blueline afraid to block shots or a goalie who couldn’t stop a beachball.

 

[PromisedLand]

It’s not like they need to put up 3PPG runs to turn the heat off either. The guys facing the heat could buy themselves literal years of benefit of the doubt by fighting Marchand and Tkachuk. Gilmour was here 4 seasons and got a statue, it doesn’t take that much to reach “your kids and grandkids will never pay for a beer in this city” status.

Precisely all we want to see is compete and not lay an egg like they did in gm 5 and gm 7. Lay a big hit, cross check, crash the net fooking do something instead of perimeter bullshit play.

marner basically said they are treated as gods here does that sound like a bad place to be?

And the players don’t seem to realize that the reason all these big brands want these guys in their commercials is BECAUSE the fans are so passionate. I don’t begrudge these guys getting endorsement deals at all, but they they ought to know it’s the popularity of being a Leaf that makes those deals so lucrative.

unless someone is Ovi/McJesus level talent they are not getting any commercials. They get those and more because they are a Leaf. Its not controversial. Its a FACT!

 

[ruaware41]

enjoyed some sun light today, it's been several days since the sun has been out. Life goes on, it's a game at the end of the day, as much as it sucks. Take care people, tis been .. typical

 

[Martin Skoula]

And the players don’t seem to realize that the reason all these big brands want these guys in their commercials is BECAUSE the fans are so passionate. I don’t begrudge these guys getting endorsement deals at all, but they they ought to know it’s the popularity of being a Leaf that makes those deals so lucrative.

It’ll be funny when the sponsors start dropping them. If I’m a bank I’m not sure I want to associate my brand with letting my clients down at critical moments and shifting the blame to others.

 

[hockeywiz542]

 

[Westlander]

I felt the irresistible urge to empty the poisoned cup (gifbeker). Not sure why.

Normally I easily avoid results before watching, but this opportunity was probably too good for fans of other teams to not mock, pity or meme me today. A lot of people unfortunately know the Leafs are my one true passion in sports.

The Leafs are a hell of a basket to have put all your eggs in!

 

[Smif]

A Massive Trade Issue is Arising for Canadian Teams

While there are many upsides to playing for Canadian teams, including the most passionate fans in the league, and some

www.hockeypatrol.com

Nothing about Canadians not wanting to play in Canada. You made it up, as I expected.

The income tax issue is something I am very interested in though, huge disadvantage for us.

 

[PromisedLand]

Shits about to hit the fan....

 

[rumman]

Where’s Jack Lambert to defend Marner? Nothing but crickets………

 

[Tak7]

I think they gauged interest before Shanahan reassured them and the interest wasn’t as high as they expected. Still Shanahan has been the run it back man for the last five years when they had plenty of chances to change the team’s makeup. He has to be fully accountable.

They tried moving Nylander after the Shanahan phone calls

 

[Tak7]

Maybe. Is it unreasonable to believe that a potential trade might have been floated in order to convince Nylander that the grass isn't necessarily greener on the other side? It just feels a bit like a 180 in having him go from trade candidate to a deal of maximum term. I'm wondering if Treliving had no desire to trade Nylander but would have done so only when the alternative scenario available was losing him for nothing as a UFA?

He tried to trade him, and decided to go the extension route when they didnt like the offers made to them.

I'm not sure why we are trying to overcomplicate this

 

[ITM]

Shits about to hit the fan....

And isn't that rich when we consider Babcock was tarred and feathered for asking Marner to name names. Implying the same thing doesn't take the log out of Matthews'/Marner's eye.

 

[tmlms13]

Well I'd like to say I'm surprised but that'd be a lie.

Marner out, JT out, probably time for Mo to move on.

I'm fine with Willy and AM34 staying.

Rielly has 6 years left with a NMC a house on the bridal path and a famous canadian wife

He's not going anywhere

 

[facelessjoe1990]

Has there been any official word about Shanahan?

 

[New User Name]

Nothing about Canadians not wanting to play in Canada. You made it up, as I expected.

The income tax issue is something I am very interested in though, huge disadvantage for us.

Oh for f***s sake. The majority of players are Canadian. Reasonable to suggest majority of players with Canadian teams on their no trade list are Canadian. I can't give you a list of players that have Canadian teams on their no trade list as that information is not public. But it's well known a lot do not want to play in Canada. Rick Nash was one and there's many others.

 

[yubbers]

Rielly has 6 years left with a NMC a house on the bridal path and a famous canadian wife

He's not going anywhere

then buy him out.