Post-Game Talk: End of the Shanascam? | Leafs Blown Out at Home Again

[sxvnert]

I have to agree with Maurice here.

I think the leafs showed some growth this year.

It would be a mistake for you guys to run Mitchy out of town, out of anger and panic.

I know this sounds like insanity, but I'd just run it back.

Look at the scores in this series vs 2023 vs a much better leafs team & a worse panthers team.

 

[Stephen]

If the opposing coach needs to come out to defend these sorry sacks of overpaid crap...

It sickens me that the entire f***in league rushes to their defense.

It makes me sick as a Torontonian that we have to suffer our own team on the ice and then have a Paul Maurice tell us how it really is, like the media and fanbase in this town are so ignorant and ungrateful that we don't know up from down.

All the while this town shells out thousands of dollars as a fanbase to suffer 6-1 losses in 2 straight games and some visiting narcissist gas lighter tell us how really works. f*** off Paul. Toronto isn't your personal soapbox, you were a brutal Leafs coach and I'm glad we ran your ass out of town. Don't forget this dumb town funds a nice percentage of your paycheque.

 

[CelticDruid]

Man what entitlement... toxicity has begun if it hadn't already....

Wtf did you guys do, huh?

Sounds like Marner and Matthews are the divas in the dressing room.

 

[Gabriel426]

Oh God, if you think AM is a passenger you’ll lose your shit with Petey, he’s even worse.

Hughes will not sign long term in Toronto. Even Jim Rutherford said it in the Vancouver end of season press conference. Quinn has his mind set on playing with his brothers. Either they find away to get the brothers to Vancouver or he is going to New Jersey.

Petey been bad since he signed his contract. But like I said, I have more faith in getting him in shape than AM not choking.

Ideally, I would trade AM to the Rangers for JT Miller and picks

As for Hughes. Leafs can actually lure Jack and Luke to the Leafs better than any teams in the league as all three of them literally grew up in SBC.

 

[theTTC]

I have to agree with Maurice here.

I think the leafs showed some growth this year.

It would be a mistake for you guys to run Mitchy out of town, out of anger and panic.

I know this sounds like insanity, but I'd just run it back.

Ah, the old "respect in the handshake line" gaslighting by the winning coach. Been there.

 

[francis246]

Both need to go along.
They are just rotten. I am not someone who picks on players post series comments right after they got eliminated but how the F can they call the team a whole bunch of passengers after their own performance in the Game 7.

Matthews was the only one who said that. I don’t think Marner said anything along those lines.

I do think for Marner’s own sanity it’s probably best he leaves. I think he’s proven at the 4 nations, in other environments he can thrive. So I expect him to be an outstanding player wherever he ends up.

 

[Apex Predator]

It won’t happen but I’m not against starting all over with new GM. Fresh start everywhere.

 

[LeafEgo]

This Woll commentary blows my mind.

Did anyone grow up playing hockey in Canada?

The game was over before puck drop.

 

[francis246]

Petey been bad since he signed his contract. But like I said, I have more faith in getting him in shape than AM not choking.

Ideally, I would trade AM to the Rangers for JT Miller and picks

As for Hughes. Leafs can actually lure Jack and Luke to the Leafs better than any teams in the league as all three of them literally grew up in SBC.

What assets do we have to get Jack and Luke? Neither will be UFA for a while.

 

[sxvnert]

This was the whole notion of the "Shanaplan"..

That skill could triumph grit

It's failed over and over again. We need grit, and lots of it. Matthews and Nylander is enough softies on this team

Exactly. Its three too many. Let Marner and JT walk and convince Reilly he needs to get the f*** out.

Test out: Knies Matthews Nylander/Domi and see what happens.

 

[Antropovsky]

Oh God, if you think AM is a passenger you’ll lose your shit with Petey, he’s even worse.

Hughes will not sign long term in Toronto. Even Jim Rutherford said it in the Vancouver end of season press conference. Quinn has his mind set on playing with his brothers. Either they find away to get the brothers to Vancouver or he is going to New Jersey.

That was a smart move by Jersey to draft 2 of them. Put them as a front runner for Quinn if ever he thinks about leaving.

 

[wingman75]

The last half of the first period the Leafs were all over it. They played so well.

I don't understand why they didn't carry any of that into the second... such poor leadership.

 

[KAWAIlllI]

Hey now, you took the reining Cup winners to 7 with you back-up goalie and forwards that didn’t contribute. With Stolarz and some more depth up-front, you would’ve had this. Get that’s it’s frustrating, but there’s always next year

 

[Gabriel426]

It makes me sick as a Torontonian that we have to suffer our own team on the ice and then have a Paul Maurice tell us how it really is, like the media and fanbase in this town are so ignorant and ungrateful that we don't know up from down.

All the while this town shells out thousands of dollars as a fanbase to suffer 6-1 losses in 2 straight games and some visiting narcissist gas lighter tell us how really works. f*** off Paul. Toronto isn't your personal soapbox, you were a brutal Leafs coach and I'm glad we ran your ass out of town. Don't forget this dumb town funds a nice percentage of your paycheque.

Not defending Maurice as he is a troll esp to TO. But what do you expect a coach to say when asked did you notice any diff in the Leafs this playoffs.
Nobody will say, it took 7 games for us to beat them instead of 5. Or their system and players are not working and they need change?

 

[Action Jackson]

Matthews was the only one who said that. I don’t think Marner said anything along those lines.

I do think for Marner’s own sanity it’s probably best he leaves. I think he’s proven at the 4 nations, in other environments he can thrive. So I expect him to be an outstanding player wherever he ends up.

lmao, worried about marner's mental sanity and a joke pass in 4 nations that anyone could do.

His fans really are to the detriment of this team and it rubbed off on management as well. He will be an outstanding regular season playoff and then a shrimp ghost in the playoffs like always. Marner will never have a cup

 

[djdev]

See ya, Shanny.

Tre can stay - the team has looked much better than the Dubas years but not good enough. Berube can also stay.

See ya Mitch - I'd say wouldn't want to be ya, but some idiot GM will give you your 13 somewhere...wouldn't want to be your dad or family, though, your mom and your girl have my empathy, your dad can suck my fat cock.

Stealthily put AM out there. Yeah 'choker overpaid!' - don't act like every fanbase in the league wouldn't their pants if he landed on their team, and yes, his value is still massive. Imagine you can ship him to ANA for Zegras, Mintyukov, 1st and 2nd...or to Utah for Keller, Kesselring, 1st and 2nd...or Minnesota for Rossi, Brodin, 1st and 2nd...or anywhere for something similar.

Handshake agreement or not (and this is merely speculation), see ya JT. You made a deal when you handed in the C? Hope the new guy says sorry, that deal was with someone else.

Willy vanished after game 3 but he can stay. Knies needs his pay.

Take Mitch's money and give 75% of it to Ehlers. Add Gavrikov or Fabbro and Smith or Faksa.

...

The result I expected but not the way I expected it to happen. No more 6:00 AM wakeups for games is a plus for me I suppose.

ehlers might be the one player that plays worse than mitch in the playoffs. from like .90ppg to .37 or something wild like that. hard no.

 

[ClarkSittler]

It's very possible that Matthews/Marner are so insanely delusional/arrogant that they genuinely believe they are like Mitch said "Gods" and can do no wrong.

Maybe they really view themselves as McDrai despite being closer to Clarke MacArthures come playoff time.

Remember when Keefe called them out and then apologized the next day? This is the end product

Honestly they make me sick. Entitled, arrogant little pukes who sucked every dollar from this franchise and fanbase while disappearing every year in the playoffs. To top it off, they take zero accountability.

 

[Ports]

Berube was half the problem this game:

Refused to split up M & M

Left Woll in after the 3rd goal (Stolarz should have started and if you dont do that then Woll had to have a very short leash)

This Leafs team wasn’t beating that Panthers team tonight no matter what Berube did. When push came to shove they weren’t even close.

 

[Stephen]

Gotta win, like, now. They'll give us a better shot for a year or two. That's all the window we've got. Matthews and Nylander are in their prime and won't get any better.

And these are the same but better kind of players we are trading multiple first rounders and top prospects for at trade deadlines. Get'em up front and stop mortgaging the entire future.

I hate to remind people we aren’t on an Auston Matthews timetable to win a championship.

Yeah we could build a championship team and Matthews happens to be on the roster. But there isn’t going to be a causal relationship there where he’s in his prime and he powers a team to success. He is not capable.

 

[sxvnert]

Petey been bad since he signed his contract. But like I said, I have more faith in getting him in shape than AM not choking.

Ideally, I would trade AM to the Rangers for JT Miller and picks

As for Hughes. Leafs can actually lure Jack and Luke to the Leafs better than any teams in the league as all three of them literally grew up in SBC.

Pete is another softy like the rest of them.

 

[Antropovsky]

Matthews and Marner calling out their teammates and calling them passengers is absolute mind boggling. They make 11 mill and 13.25 AND play together and were terrible...

 

[Gabriel426]

Matthews was the only one who said that. I don’t think Marner said anything along those lines.

I do think for Marner’s own sanity it’s probably best he leaves. I think he’s proven at the 4 nations, in other environments he can thrive. So I expect him to be an outstanding player wherever he ends up.

MM agreed with him.

MM is an amazing Pippen but he is no MJ. But he wants to be paid like MJ.

 

[centipede2233]

For anyone thinking this is the last straw for this group and MLSE is going to clean house this summer, according to reporting they offered Mitch an 8-year extension this year and he didn't want to sign.

They absolutely will bring him back if he wants to come back, JT too if he's willing to come back at the right price. They'll probably let Shanahan walk as the sacrificial lamb, so it looks like they're making bold moves but MLSE will absolutely quadruple down on this core if they can.

We are way past quadruple sir…

 

[flin flon bombers]

I don't think they sign Marchand with his best days behind him and zero core.

 

[Ports]

Tre knows what a D-corps look like, so his handling of Rielly in the off-season will be interesting for me. It's clear when you look at this Defence, Morgan is the one dude that looks out of place. It'll be tough to maneuver around this NMC, so a buy-out may be in order here

Yes please.