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And everyone that was asked about his drought was nothing but defensive of him, propping him up.

It's sad to see it.

Young Knies playing hurt, great production throughout the playoff run.

Inconsistent Nylander scoring in bunches and getting his breakaway looks.

Old JT finding his scoring touch at times in the series, almost won us Game 3 by himself.

Pacioretty digging deep and scoring a series winner for us, sealing the deal in Game 6 in Florida.

Benoit with an OT winner.

Domi with an OT winner and more goals than the captain himself.

OEL with a couple of big goals earlier in the run.

Playoff Rielly chipping in with a few clutch goals when he wasn't coughing up goodies for the opposition.

Scratch and score Nicky Bobby.

Tanev with 1 goal.

If all these guys were passengers, maybe the stage was just set for Auston to do something truly special. Nope.
 


If the opposing coach needs to come out to defend these sorry sacks of overpaid crap...

It sickens me that the entire f***in league rushes to their defense.


I think the rest of the league recognizes their talent. But as fans we deserve more than what we’ve gotten in the 9 years with them. So it’s hard for us to not be upset.
 
I’ve been saying this and I’ve been called an idiot. Glad people are catching on. Letting Marner walk is putting a bandaid on the bigger problem, which is probably Matthews. Look at the way this team plays without him, it’s night and day.

With Matthews here I don’t think we find success truthfully.
Thats a good point. Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't we have a winning record with him out? And I feel like those games the team plays better.
 
He will never come here. He handpicked Florida when Boston talked to him about the trade.
Who wouldn’t hand pick Panthers if they actually want to win.
Handpicking Leafs at TDL means that player probably want to hit his summer vacation early, lol.
 
He will never come here. He handpicked Florida when Boston talked to him about the trade.
Florida gives him the perfect chance to rub it in the Bruins brass face when hes lifting the cup.
 
I take no pride in calling this cores inability to win in e playoffs BEFORE the Columbus series. I still remember how much I was mocked. .It's simple, Brad has to get ownership to agree to the big moves. Buyout Reilly if he doesnt age to waive. He should been replaced by Petrioangelo when the opportunity arose, I canvassed on here hard for Dubas to make the right decision. They need character to win, not talent. Give me the personalities akin to a Knies, Lorentz, Patches,.McMann, Tanev, Benoit. I dont need 100 point forwards of 50 point D Men. the team.needs warriors,.players who.WANT the prressure. They hate losing, hate being outhustledd
This was the whole notion of the "Shanaplan"..

That skill could triumph grit

It's failed over and over again. We need grit, and lots of it. Matthews and Nylander is enough softies on this team
 


If the opposing coach needs to come out to defend these sorry sacks of overpaid crap...

It sickens me that the entire f***in league rushes to their defense.

And Marchand will say resign Marner at any cost. He's the best. Nice try.
 
Thats a good point. Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't we have a winning record with him out? And I feel like those games the team plays better.

We do, an insanely good record without him. I think if you could, you trade Matthews and keep Marner and Nylander tbh.
 
I’ve been saying this and I’ve been called an idiot. Glad people are catching on. Letting Marner walk is putting a bandaid on the bigger problem, which is probably Matthews. Look at the way this team plays without him, it’s night and day.

With Matthews here I don’t think we find success truthfully.
I would trade AM and Reilly to Vancouver for Petey and Hughes.

I would have more faith in getting Petey to prepare himself better than teaching Reilly to play defense and AM to not choke in playoffs.
 
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The start was terrible, but for about ten minutes in the first, they looked decent and kind of took it to FLA. Had a couple of breakaways. Unfortunately, they were by fourth line guys.
That's the problem
Our top guys should be the ones making shit happen for breakaways. How many shots with Matthews even have this game?
 
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I would trade AM and Reilly to Vancouver for Petey and Hughes.

I would have more faith in getting Petey to prepare himself better than teaching Reilly to play defense and AM to not choke in playoffs.

Oh God, if you think AM is a passenger you’ll lose your shit with Petey, he’s even worse.

Hughes will not sign long term in Toronto. Even Jim Rutherford said it in the Vancouver end of season press conference. Quinn has his mind set on playing with his brothers. Either they find away to get the brothers to Vancouver or he is going to New Jersey.
 
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Marner said he thinks the core can get it done.

Overall Marner doesnt sound like a player who wants to leave. So... as thought, just him and his team releasing rumors of him leaving, in an attempt to squeeze out every last penny. Remember they said they werent going to negotiate in the media. They definitely were... thanks Marner for continuing to be a huge distraction. Not like it wouldnt have been helpful to not talk all year and read all year about Marner.

He better be gone this offseason.
 
Where did Spreadsheet Dubious' team rank? Oh that's right..........

The last 3 years of him were 6th best, 9th best, and 2nd best... so better than the D assembled this year.

Do you purposely post things that you know nothing about?

Dubas failed, you don't need to keep bringing him up, but Treliving has also failed, and pretending the D he assembled was a success is weird.
 
See ya, Shanny.

Tre can stay - the team has looked much better than the Dubas years but not good enough. Berube can also stay.

See ya Mitch - I'd say wouldn't want to be ya, but some idiot GM will give you your 13 somewhere...wouldn't want to be your dad or family, though, your mom and your girl have my empathy, your dad can suck my fat c**k.

Stealthily put AM out there. Yeah 'choker overpaid!' - don't act like every fanbase in the league wouldn't cream their pants if he landed on their team, and yes, his value is still massive. Imagine you can ship him to ANA for Zegras, Mintyukov, 1st and 2nd...or to Utah for Keller, Kesselring, 1st and 2nd...or Minnesota for Rossi, Brodin, 1st and 2nd...or LA for Byfield, Clarke and a 1st.

Handshake agreement or not (and this is merely speculation), see ya JT. You made a deal when you handed in the C? Hope the new guy says sorry, that deal was with someone else.

Willy vanished after game 3 but he can stay. Knies needs his pay.

Take Mitch's money and give 75% of it to Ehlers. Add Gavrikov or Fabbro and Smith or Faksa.

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The result I expected but not the way I expected it to happen. No more 6:00 AM wakeups for games is a plus for me I suppose.
 
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This was the whole notion of the "Shanaplan"..

That skill could triumph grit

It's failed over and over again. We need grit, and lots of it. Matthews and Nylander is enough softies on this team
It is fixable, but Leafs.will need to eat salary. How they kept Reilly when it is clear he can't handle the heat...I dont know. The franchise is just a large government organization.. They need to know,.finally, he just will.NEVER have it.when it most matters. Ditto for. Marner.etc. keep Nylander and Mattews, that is enough vanilla on one team. I think of the players I wanted Leafs to grab in UFA over the years and how many won Cups. I will say it again, consider that we.couldnt re-sign Hyman due to the massive big contracts. He is exactly what this team needs 3-4 of.
 
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We do, an insanely good record without him. I think if you could, you trade Matthews and keep Marner and Nylander tbh.
Both need to go along.
They are just rotten. I am not someone who picks on players post series comments right after they got eliminated but how the F can they call the team a whole bunch of passengers after their own performance in the Game 7.
 
The fans deserved better than this.

The Leafs did not.

Bennett is series MVP for his dirty knocking out of Stolarz. We win this series with Stolarz in net. Scummy play by Bennett gets the job done and Punch Drunk Parros gives the Panthers a free pass to be as dirty as possible.

In response our guys fall apart.

Lots of skill, but not nearly enough will and our mental midgets were repeatedly exposed.

Changes are needed, starting with Shanahan being fired. He failed and his choices, his stubbornness first in bringing in newbie’s in Dubas and Keefe to learn on the job, allow them to fail over and over, and then keep running it back year after year, enough is enough.

This needs to end and start a new era.
 
We can’t try to reassemble Florida magic at over inflated Toronto prices, all that mileage on those guys and expect they’ll do it for the Leafs.
Gotta win, like, now. They'll give us a better shot for a year or two. That's all the window we've got. Matthews and Nylander are in their prime and will start slowly degrading.

And these are the same but better kind of players we are trading multiple first rounders and top prospects for at trade deadlines. Get'em up front and stop mortgaging the entire future.
 

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