VoidCreature
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Losing Nichushkin and Landeskog is a big blow but they can still win the cup again. They have two of the best players in the world with MacK and Makar. You don’t give up on that.
End of the Avalanche?
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They're lucky they came back in game 1 to not get swept, and they're super lucky they won a cup to not be completely waste the potential of Makar+MacKinnon as they only had a 1 year window. Landeskog is done and Nuke is most likely done in Colorado.
If they fire Sakic, maybe MacFarland or someone can work a miracle but most likely they'll languish as a 1st or 2nd round exit for a while.
If they fire Sakic, maybe MacFarland or someone can work a miracle but most likely they'll languish as a 1st or 2nd round exit for a while.
JianYang
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With their top two players among the league's best and still in their 20s, there's absolutely no way they don't continue to try for the cup. There's lot of work to do, but alot of teams would also love to be in that position.
You can go decades without ever finding a top two like that again, even if you tanked them all, and they still have other decent peices as well with or without landeskog or nuke.
You can go decades without ever finding a top two like that again, even if you tanked them all, and they still have other decent peices as well with or without landeskog or nuke.
Depth didn't do them in. Makar MacGinnon and Rantanen were minus players. Out played by a guy who was bought out last summer (Duchene) and two old timers in Benn and Seguin.
Second line tilted the ice vs Winnipeg. If they didn't have a solid middle 6 they're out in the first round.
Depth guys needed to be trusted more. Third line Colton and Wood needed more ice time.
MacGinnon and Rantanen were trash. Makar better offensively and drove the bus from the blue line which is a step up from the regular season. But wasn't interested in playing defense.
When your team is built around 3 superstars and 2 of the 3 were garbage at any given time (Makar and Rantanen useless during regular season then MacGinnon and Rantanen useless during playoffs). You lose.
Second line tilted the ice vs Winnipeg. If they didn't have a solid middle 6 they're out in the first round.
Depth guys needed to be trusted more. Third line Colton and Wood needed more ice time.
MacGinnon and Rantanen were trash. Makar better offensively and drove the bus from the blue line which is a step up from the regular season. But wasn't interested in playing defense.
When your team is built around 3 superstars and 2 of the 3 were garbage at any given time (Makar and Rantanen useless during regular season then MacGinnon and Rantanen useless during playoffs). You lose.
Maurice of Orange
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Like every other team going into the offseason Colorado’s GM has questions to answer and evaluations to be made. If the cap if rising by $5mil then it should leave the Avs with some room to dip into the FA market to fill out their bottom 6 and bottom pairing.
It’s unknown if Landeskog will ever return his game to its previous form after undergoing a knee cartilage transplant and Nichushkin won’t even be eligible to be reinstated until mid November at the earliest.
Could the Avs make another run in a season or two, perhaps but most likely not with Landy or Nuke on the roster. I see a slight retool with the Avs roster if they want to stay competitive, if not it’s just waiting to see what they have left in Landy and Nuke to determine future roster decisions.
Line 1 LW Lehkonen C MacKinnon RW Rantanen
Line 2 LW Landeskog ? C Mittelstadt RW Nichushkin ?
Line 3 LW ? C ? RW Kovalenko
Line 4 LW Wood C Colton RW O’Connor
1st Pair LD Toews RD Makar
2nd Pair LD Girard RD Manson
3rd Pair LD ? RD Malinski
Starter: Georgiev
Backup: Annunen ?
Scratches:
C Wagner
RW Foudy
7th Defensemen ?
8th Defensemen ?
It’s unknown if Landeskog will ever return his game to its previous form after undergoing a knee cartilage transplant and Nichushkin won’t even be eligible to be reinstated until mid November at the earliest.
Could the Avs make another run in a season or two, perhaps but most likely not with Landy or Nuke on the roster. I see a slight retool with the Avs roster if they want to stay competitive, if not it’s just waiting to see what they have left in Landy and Nuke to determine future roster decisions.
Line 1 LW Lehkonen C MacKinnon RW Rantanen
Line 2 LW Landeskog ? C Mittelstadt RW Nichushkin ?
Line 3 LW ? C ? RW Kovalenko
Line 4 LW Wood C Colton RW O’Connor
1st Pair LD Toews RD Makar
2nd Pair LD Girard RD Manson
3rd Pair LD ? RD Malinski
Starter: Georgiev
Backup: Annunen ?
Scratches:
C Wagner
RW Foudy
7th Defensemen ?
8th Defensemen ?
HarrySPlinkett
Not a film critic
Yeah. Trade Rantanen, and tank with Makar and MacKinnon.
That way, in seven or eight years, you might have three players 80% as good as them.
go back to your Xbox.
It's not a case of the Avs being bad it's just that Dallas is so good from top to bottom of their lineup.
The Avs have some good peices soming as well.
Sky04
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Anyone who goes to Montreal ends up ruining their career. Terrible team, can't even something as easy as an 80 point scorer in over a decade
Don't know what's worse for Canada the Leafs being a playoff embarrassment or the Canadiens being just an embarrassment.
Not to mention it's just hard to go all the way. Lots of things have to go right. Of all the teams remaining none of them have won the cup since 1999.
Makar isn’t as good as people think he is. He racked up so many points vs a weak Nashville team in 2022
SlafCaufield
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Wasn’t even a bad series. Oettinger was phenomenal.
Dallas Colorado was always going to be tight. An extra bounce or two in our direction and we have a game 7 tomorrow. If we’d been smoked by Winnipeg this might make sense.
Dallas Colorado was always going to be tight. An extra bounce or two in our direction and we have a game 7 tomorrow. If we’d been smoked by Winnipeg this might make sense.
Joseppi
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You'd be a fool to think they're cooked. It's so hard to win in today's league, all it takes is a few bounces or a few key injuries and it can 100% swing a series.
They've still got the horses to win it all, just maybe not as easily as a couple years ago.
They've still got the horses to win it all, just maybe not as easily as a couple years ago.
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A lot of people were writing off the Penguins in the mid-2010s.
Colorado has a young and talented enough core to win the Cup again, and their captain's returning next year. Makar's 25 FFS. This isn't even close to burn it down territory.
Colorado has a young and talented enough core to win the Cup again, and their captain's returning next year. Makar's 25 FFS. This isn't even close to burn it down territory.
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How big of a factor was the Nichushkin incident in losing the series? Pretty bad timing. You're supposed to celebrate AFTER the playoffs not during.
HFpapi
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Mack/Makar/Rantanen/Toews is a hell of a core. Will be very easy to retool around that.
Nichuskin situation and losing Landy unexpectedly (I feel like he's done but hope I'm wrong) are huge blows to this core but on the flip side if they can void Val's deal and LTIR Landy they are rolling in cap space.
People can laugh all they want I really think they should go and get Crosby and I think it is very much doable.
Crosby doesn't want to finish his career with 4-5 consecutive years out of the playoffs. He's already missed it two straight and the Pens aren't exactly a team on the rise. If he can chase cups instead of bottom feed for the next 2-3 years I'm sure he'll reevaluate his dedicated to being a one team player.
Nichuskin situation and losing Landy unexpectedly (I feel like he's done but hope I'm wrong) are huge blows to this core but on the flip side if they can void Val's deal and LTIR Landy they are rolling in cap space.
People can laugh all they want I really think they should go and get Crosby and I think it is very much doable.
Crosby doesn't want to finish his career with 4-5 consecutive years out of the playoffs. He's already missed it two straight and the Pens aren't exactly a team on the rise. If he can chase cups instead of bottom feed for the next 2-3 years I'm sure he'll reevaluate his dedicated to being a one team player.
FDBluth
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Remember when the days were long
And rolled beneath a Denver sky
The Nordiques moved into our world
Spoiled we were with that first Cup
But "happily ever after" fails
And we've been poisoned by these 90's tales
The coaches dwell on small details
Oh, but I know a place where we can go
Still untouched by analytics
We'll sit and watch the clouds roll by
And the tall grass waves in the wind
You can buy yourself another pound
the women of the night are all around me
Makar gives us our best defense
But this is the end
This is the end of the Avalanche
O' beautiful, Landeskog
Now those knees are buckling
The Cap is chipping away at our core
For this former star that we call GM
Keyboard warriors often fail
And we've been poisoned by this 2022 tale
The lawyers clean up all details
Since Nicky said good bye.
Let's all grab another round
the women of the night are all around me
Get JJ off our next defense
But this is the end
This is the end of the Avalanche
Oh, who knows how long this will last
Now we've come so far, so fast
But somewhere back there in the Dallas
That losing feeling in each of us
I need to remember this
Miles Wood with yet another miss
And let me take a long last look
Before we say goodbye
Let's all grab another round
the women of the night are all around me
Get Caleb off our next defense
Could this be the end
Yes, This is the end of the Avalanche
And rolled beneath a Denver sky
The Nordiques moved into our world
Spoiled we were with that first Cup
But "happily ever after" fails
And we've been poisoned by these 90's tales
The coaches dwell on small details
Oh, but I know a place where we can go
Still untouched by analytics
We'll sit and watch the clouds roll by
And the tall grass waves in the wind
You can buy yourself another pound
the women of the night are all around me
Makar gives us our best defense
But this is the end
This is the end of the Avalanche
O' beautiful, Landeskog
Now those knees are buckling
The Cap is chipping away at our core
For this former star that we call GM
Keyboard warriors often fail
And we've been poisoned by this 2022 tale
The lawyers clean up all details
Since Nicky said good bye.
Let's all grab another round
the women of the night are all around me
Get JJ off our next defense
But this is the end
This is the end of the Avalanche
Oh, who knows how long this will last
Now we've come so far, so fast
But somewhere back there in the Dallas
That losing feeling in each of us
I need to remember this
Miles Wood with yet another miss
And let me take a long last look
Before we say goodbye
Let's all grab another round
the women of the night are all around me
Get Caleb off our next defense
Could this be the end
Yes, This is the end of the Avalanche
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