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Player Discussion Emil Heineman

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Dagistitsyn said:
and what did Slafkovsky do when he was playing against 4th line players?
He was atrocious, lost. The only time he's looked good was for second half of a write off season in meaningless games playing with Suzuki, and now he's struggling with him too. Which is fine, he's only 20. I get it. All I said is as of right now, Heineman is better in every aspect, which is unlucky because most teams get an immediate star at first overall. We got a project. It's not even up for debate. You guys completely missed the point I was making because you're all over protective of a first overall pick who is underperforming and is soon to be making 7.6 million a year. I never said he couldn't turn it around.

Slafkovskys early career so far has been a tale of two completely different players, and he's looked lost far more than he's looked good.

Heineman IS playing against 3rd liners but he has looked good doing it. His shot is lethal and he's not afraid to use it whenever he gets a chance, he's hustling out there, fast, finishing every hit. His line eats huge minutes in the o-zone.

Slaf isn't using his shot, is slow, usually a step behind the play.

Unhinged is blindly disagreeing with someone because he was a first overall pick.

A poster stating we had a weak draft year to get the first overall pick when we clearly have a struggling "project" of a prospect while other teams get star / even franchise players is unhinged to you? Lol ok.
Or a poster simply pointing out another prospect has a more complete game right now? Whatever. I never said Heineman was going to have a better career. I said right now, Heineman is the more complete overall player, and that's the sad reality. Yes he's a few years older - I acknowledged that and said hopefully Slafkovsky can continue to develop into whatever it is you guys see in him. He is getting decent assist numbers this year which is good to see, but it doesn't tell the whole story. Compared to someone like Celebrini / Bedard / Hughes / Hischier / Matthews / McDavid / MacKinnons of the first over all category, we were unlucky. If I'm unhinged for seeing that, so be it lol.
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The idea most 1st OA's are stars, and we got a underperforming project just doesn't have any basis in reality. If the last few years had shown us anything, it's that Slaf's trajectory is the norm for 1st OA players, not the exception. These are the 1st OA's IN THEIR 3RD YEAR, since McDavid and Matthews were picked in '15 and '16:
- Hischier 36 in 58
- Dahlin 23 in 56
- Hughes 56 in 49 (but 31 in 56 in his 2nd)
- Laff 39 in 81
- Power 22 in 43 up to now...
Even MacKinnon had 52 and 53pts in his 3rd and 4th season, but last year almost tripled those numbers. Besides certain exceptions, 2nd and 3rd year is too early to tell what type of numbers we can expect from a player in his prime. Since 2016, which 1st OA has been a star from the start, or even in his 2nd season? Berard is on pace for 72 pts in his 2nd season, and he's supposed to be a generational player. Maybe Celebrini??
Slaf actually compares well to these numbers. He's not playing with as much confidence as last year's 2nd half, but he's still on pace for 46-48pts over 82 games. But for some, anything less than a whole season producing at the same pace as his hottest streak last year, is a disappointment. The number one thing most young stars struggle with is consistency.
I'm not saying he'll wind up being a 100 pts guy, but the statement that he's a project and other 1st OA's are stars is simply not supported statistically.
As for comparing him with Heineman... You must REALLY not like Slaf. The idea that Heineman is doing better because he's better on the 4th or because Slaf struggled when he was playing on the 4th is just wild...
Slaf is not that type of player, and if he's on the 4th, it's because things aren't great at the moment. You can't expect him to become a new player because he's on the 4th for a few games. Have Emil play on the first for the remainder of the season and see how well he does. If he's playing better than Slaf, perhaps we should! Establishing yourself as a good 1st line NHL player, at 20, or any age for that matter, is much, much harder than becoming a good 4th line player.
 
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Get well soon Mr. Heineman!
 
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As pedestrian stay safe on the road guys.

Drivers don't know to drive in Montreal. Drivers don't respect pedestrians.

Drivers are taking their driving license from SAQ. Drivers aren't taking driving license from SAAQ.
 
Pretty sure Emil could use that motto....''The only f***ing thing that can slow me down is a f***ing car''

Take care Emil. And punish the people when you'll be back.
 
I want Beck to be called up since he more or less play the same type of game as Heineman but for some reason i think it's gonna be Harvey-Pinard or ABB
 
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