Player Discussion Elias Pettersson - Please, Be Civil

racerjoe

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Jun 3, 2012
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Saying someone fabricated something is calling them a liar and is a personal attack.

If he asked for a source, I didn't have one. That's fair. It's fair to take the comment with a grain of salt. It's fair to suggest that maybe I've mis-remembered part of it. It is not cool to just call someone a liar.



No, it doesn't.

He clearly wasn't signing here unless the team improved. He was laying the groundwork for a trade in the summer of 2023. I didn't like his attitude, but that that didn't mean that we didn't have to 'play ball' with him, essentially.




Again, the problem with this is that we've seen the same thing from him before in multiple different seasons.

If a poor stretch happened to Quinn Hughes next year after years of consistently outstanding play, he'd get a lot of rope. But Pettersson is the boy who cried wolf at this stage. 2021 and 2024 looked basically identical from him.

I think this has proven to be false.

Hughes would absolutely deserve a lot of rope, mvp like season this year. However he has previously had some inconsistencies. Pettersson had according to your math 3 straight good seasons, where he was strong (rough start to contract year than finished strong all the way until January). Besides Hughes in that time Miller has been much more inconsistent, and you did talk about it earlier when it was happening. Specifically I remember around when he was getting the bad rep for yelling at teammates. Now he had a rough start to the season and he gets more rope then Pettersson.

Now I say this not to say those players deserve more criticism, but to point out they get more rope, and have been as inconstant at times.

No one is perfect, Pettersson certainly has not been, but he deserves better than we have been treating him here, demanding he be traded and such. I can admit he hasn’t been good, I just think there is more to it than a malcontent player.
 

Billy Kvcmu

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Even when he's clearly working hard and having a decent game, he doesn't have his top end speed and he doesn't have his shot, and anyone who can't see it at this point is deliberately, wilfully, and in bad faith blind.
Either he’s playing to through something or he’s never gonna recover from it
 

ChuckNorris4Cup

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I read some posters were looking for stats for Pettersson in his earlier slump this season and arguments about how he wasn't slower or something a long those lines. I read this stat earlier in the season, as for those numbers now I'm not sure, but this was after the first 9 games of the season, but enjoying the conversations between a couple posters here.:popcorn:

Last season, Pettersson clocked a season-high skating speed of 22.4 miles per hour and registered 111 bursts over 20 mph including three over 22 mph. His hardest shot was 97.67 miles per hour, with 15 of them topping 90 mph mark. Compare that to the first nine games of this season when Pettersson's top skating speed was measured at 21.7 mph and his hardest shot has been 82.9 mph - the only shot over 80 so far this -
 

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