Player Discussion Elias Pettersson - Please, Be Civil

Hodgy

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It would be great if posters stopped making these broad generalizations about what a segment of other posters think regarding Pettersson as these generalizations are almost never accurate and just lead to further polarization and emotionally charged posts. And if you want to call out a particular poster for his or her thoughts, then quote that poster verbatim or at least give a fair and accurate summary of their thoughts.
 

Jyrki21

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It would be great if posters stopped making these broad generalizations about what a segment of other posters think regarding Pettersson as these generalizations are almost never accurate and just lead to further polarization and emotionally charged posts. And if you want to call out a particular poster for his or her thoughts, then quote that poster verbatim or at least give a fair and accurate summary of their thoughts.
I'm so tired of posters from the Kootenays always thinking that Pettersson wears #41.
 

sting101

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It would be great if posters stopped making these broad generalizations about what a segment of other posters think regarding Pettersson as these generalizations are almost never accurate and just lead to further polarization and emotionally charged posts. And if you want to call out a particular poster for his or her thoughts, then quote that poster verbatim or at least give a fair and accurate summary of their thoughts.
A thousand likes to this.

Literally started a avalanche of defensive and offensive posts by just breaking down how pissed off i was with him and Boeser Sunday. Had nothing to do with anything else other than a recognition of how mercurial he is and how that's frustrating and somewhat alarming given he should be a leader and that game was the opposite

If most of the team shows up and guys making big money getting PPs and offensive starts have poor games they are gonna hear about it. Everybody gets analyzed through a lens of what their role and responsibility to the team is.

Was excellent last game and has stepped up since Miller went out.

Gotta feeling if he can stay healthy through the break and the 4 nations that the stretch this year will be a much more mature consistent stone cold killa. Will do him a lot of good to play for Sweden and feel more like a superstar with his peers after how his contract injury summer and start had messed with his head
 

crowfish

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Since Nov 9th when he had his 1st multi-point game of the season:

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1.4 pts per game. I will enjoy thoroughly watching all the absolute trash takes about this player continue to age like milk. The best part is he probably isn't even 100% healthy yet.
 

beachcomber

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Since Nov 9th when he had his 1st multi-point game of the season:

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1.4 pts per game. I will enjoy thoroughly watching all the absolute trash takes about this player continue to age like milk. The best part is he probably isn't even 100% healthy yet.
All well and good against inferior opponents. Continue this for the rest of the season and through the playoffs when it really counts.
 
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VanJack

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I'm beginning to wonder if Pettersson eventually heads out of town the same way Bure did. I mean the ridiculous and relentless scrutiny of players in this market is beyond alarming.

Almost from the day he signed that contract the reporting and speculation about this player has been 'over the top'. And even Tocchet, who's been mostly patient with the local media guys, is starting to show his irritation.

Bure seemed a lot happier in South Florida than he ever was in Vancouver. Sometimes a 'vacuum market' like that is what some players need.
 
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Anthem

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Since Nov 9th when he had his 1st multi-point game of the season:

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1.4 pts per game. I will enjoy thoroughly watching all the absolute trash takes about this player continue to age like milk. The best part is he probably isn't even 100% healthy yet.
Cool, now break it down to vs playoff teams and non playoff teams.

Curious if he's actually getting completely destroyed by every halfway competent group that comes through or it just seems that way.

I know people have been complaiing about it since last year.

I'm beginning to wonder if Pettersson eventually heads out of town the same way Bure did. I mean the ridiculous and relentless scrutiny of players in this market is beyond alarming.

Almost from the day he signed that contract the reporting and speculation about this player has been 'over the top'. And even Tocchet, who's been mostly patient with the local media guys, is starting to show his irritation.

Bure seemed a lot happier in South Florida than he ever was in Vancouver. Sometimes a 'vacuum market' like that is what some players need.
It's been completely calm and reasonable considering the way he disappeared last playoffs.

He shouldn't ever hear the end of that. Not until he puts up a dominating performance. He was that pathetic last year.
 

BluesyShoes

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Since Nov 9th when he had his 1st multi-point game of the season:

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1.4 pts per game. I will enjoy thoroughly watching all the absolute trash takes about this player continue to age like milk. The best part is he probably isn't even 100% healthy yet.

I think there is still something up with his skating, whether it be health related or just habits.

One play against a top player like Point isn't the be all end all, but Petey doesn't look all that tired and he gets absolutely smoked in a race where Petey had a bit of a head start and the inside lane.

The skating looks really labored there, and that was on Sunday.
 

sandwichbird2023

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That one-timer on the PP last night that rang off the crossbar, brought back memory of "prime" Petey. When he shoots it like that the goalie has no chance, all he can do is pray that the shot either hits him or misses the net.

Bits and parts of his game are slowly coming back, but his skating is still so laboured and slow! It's so frustrating to me, I can't even imagine how frustrating it is for him.

Having said all that, while I'm glad he has picked it up a bit lately, this team really needs him to consistently be an impact player. Can't be padding his stats against the Wings and Sabres, but completely disappearing against the Lightning. Hughes and the goalies can't be the only ones dragging this team around, not when we currently have 5 guys on the blueline playing like a #5 or worse. C'mon Petey, we need you!
 

MarkusNaslund19

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"Cool, now break it down to vs playoff teams and non playoff teams"

Lol go look at McDavid's November numbers versus playoff teams if you think this is a thing worth carrying about

Petey got 2 versus Minnesota, maybe Petey's better. 😎
It's just ego-driven, emotionally mercurial people moving the goalposts because they can't tolerate their hot takes aging poorly.

So instead of, 'yeah I overreacted, his slump really bothered me'. It becomes, "Oh yeah? Well what about how he performs against the Avalanche on a Tuesday in April instead of the Wild in December".

At which point it's just...yaawwwwn.
 

Anthem

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I think there is still something up with his skating, whether it be health related or just habits.

One play against a top player like Point isn't the be all end all, but Petey doesn't look all that tired and he gets absolutely smoked in a race where Petey had a bit of a head start and the inside lane.

The skating looks really labored there, and that was on Sunday.
Point is one of the fastest guys in the league.

I think Pettersson just isn't at his usual conditioning level because fixing his knee was his offseason priority.

He's getting there but sometimes it's gonna show.
 
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lawrence

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After a brutal slow start, literally started this season the same way he played the last 3 months he has 22 points in 18 games.

He’s starting to pick things up
 

Wisp

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It's just ego-driven, emotionally mercurial people moving the goalposts because they can't tolerate their hot takes aging poorly.

So instead of, 'yeah I overreacted, his slump really bothered me'. It becomes, "Oh yeah? Well what about how he performs against the Avalanche on a Tuesday in April instead of the Wild in December".

At which point it's just...yaawwwwn.
Also wrong because he just added 2 more points vs playoff teams with the Rangers win tonight lol.
 

mriswith

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I think there is still something up with his skating, whether it be health related or just habits.

One play against a top player like Point isn't the be all end all, but Petey doesn't look all that tired and he gets absolutely smoked in a race where Petey had a bit of a head start and the inside lane.

The skating looks really labored there, and that was on Sunday.
If only he had wanted to try harder to stop Point, it's 100% all in his head, he just isn't putting in the effort or moving his legs enough on that play :sarcasm:

Anthem said:
But why would you expect him to peform at elite levels when his training was disrupted?

If a player loses signifigant offseason time to dealing with injury then I would expect them to be slower, less intense, not playing like they are feeling it, etc... for the first chunk of the season.
I don't expect elite performance. I even said I don't expect his current point production to stay at this level until his skating and shot is back. When I see his top end speed and his slapper back multiple times a game, then I'll expect the world from him again.

While I hope you are right that it's just his offseason training, you don't lose your shot from that. I also don't think you lose as much of your top end speed as he has from a shoddy offseason.

But fine, you're right. He's still hurt. Months off did nothing. it's hopeless and they should immediately trade him because tendonitis has completely and permanently destroyed the ability of a 25 year old. Lets all embrace this insane idea that's based on absolutely nothing except our own obsession with giving the guy a permanent excuse.
Literally none of this is what I think other than I think he's still hurt. You can argue with me without making things up right? If not then I won't continue a conversation here.

Because it's not a great post, it's baseless speculation as an excuse to coddle the guy.
It was a great post and it was literally the opposite of baseless speculation. It's literally in game observations of how he's playing including a timestamp. But I don't expect anyone on this entire board who disagrees to actually respond in good faith to @ohnoeszz post for exactly that reason.
 
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JT Milker

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Pardon my english.

It's a metaphor, Im referring to that Petey isnt 100%, the footwork still isnt where it should be.
There is no citation to be provided, it's bascially my own observation and speculation.
Pardon denied.
 

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