Player Discussion Elias Lindholm

[Dicky113]

Elias Lindholm gets brutally honest about start to Bruins career

Elias Lindholm gets brutally honest about start to Bruins career

Bruins center Elias Lindholm is not giving the Bruins what they paid for last summer. And he knows it.

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If there’s one thing you can say about Bruins center Elias Lindholm, it’s that he’s honest. Painfully so, in fact, with things not going his way (or the Bruins’ way for that matter) approaching the quarter mark of the 2024-25 campaign.

“I think overall, for myself, I just haven’t been good enough,” Lindholm, who signed a seven-year, $54.25 million contract last July to be Boston’s new No. 1 center, said following Sunday’s practice at Warrior Ice Arena. “Wouldn’t put the blame on something else other than myself. I gotta be better.”

Yeah but his contract is guaranteed so so what? Give the money back and maybe I’ll believe he gives a shit.

 

[Hookslide]

Yeah but his contract is guaranteed so so what? Give the money back and maybe I’ll believe he gives a shit.

Now you just made a statement, and if he actually did it would much bigger statement, one can only dream.

 

[EverettMike]

"I gotta be better,” he said, "But not immediately or anything."

 

[VanIsle]

17 game goalless streak and 4 assista in that stretch.

 

[Hookslide]

17 game goalless streak and 4 assista in that stretch.

2 mil an assist for 17 games, about right, thank you Donnie, Monty thanks you also as he hits the unemployment line.

 

[BigGoalBrad]

He's another Coyle.

 

[ON3M4N]

The points haven't been there for Lindholm, but the points haven't really been there for most of the guys on the team. The thing that I can appreciate though is he's hasn't abandoned his defensive game to try and get the offense going. Right now among Bruins players her ranks 3rd in blocked shots and he's tied for 5th with McAvoy for hits. He's also winning 52% of his face-offs while being asked to take roughly 1/3 of the team draws.

 

[LSCII]

For a forward who gets ample time 5 on 5, PP and PK, I'd expect better than an 8 goal pace for 7.75 million. His points-per-game is on par generally speaking, but an 8 goal pace is 4th liner level stuff.

Who is he playing with though? They plugged the hole at center with him and then created a hole at wing by letting JDB go and using the money to overpay a bottom pairing depth defenseman.

 

[BruinDust]

Who is he playing with though? They plugged the hole at center with him and then created a hole at wing by letting JDB go and using the money to overpay a bottom pairing depth defenseman.

He's a complimentary player. But he's had either Pasta or Marchand on one of his wings since he got here. Both at times. Also been a fixture on PP unit 1 since Game 1. Hasn't moved.

If they had a hole at center, he was never the guy who was going to plug it.

I don't even care they let Debrusk go. But that money they spent on Elias and Zadorov should of been spent on legitimate scoring forwards. If none were available, then wait.

If Elias was their fantasy dream then they should of signed him and traded Coyle, redundant to have both in a cap system. Then Coyle's his money on scoring.

But you and I know full well they viewed Elias Lindholm as a legitimate No.1 scoring center who was going to produce here in their system. They saw his fluke 40 goal season and in their arrogance believed he'd replicate that here. Just another massive miscalculation by this front office and pro scouting group.

 

[loosemoose]

Marchand-Lindholm-Pasta should be the line. Lindholm can't carry a line, he needs help to be able to perform. Statistically, they have shown some promise when they've been together.

The rest of their forward group is going to be horrendeous, but having at least one line would provide some entertainment value.

 

[BruinDust]

Marchand-Lindholm-Pasta should be the line. Lindholm can't carry a line, he needs help to be able to perform. Statistically, they have shown some promise when they've been together.

The rest of their forward group is going to be horrendeous, but having at least one line would provide some entertainment value.

Realistically speaking its probably the only way they'll get enough production out of Lindholm to even come close to what they are paying him.

Even then, I'm not terribly optimistic given they have already tried that and it didn't exactly blow the doors off.

 

[FrankerC]

We definitely got the Carolina Hurricane Elias Lindholm and not the Calgary Flame one. Expect 15 goals and 40ish points a season at 7.75m a year.

 

[Colt.45Orr]

Marchand was still useless when they ran the M-L-P line

 

[mflo77]

the faster the Bruins realize that E Lindholm is not a legit C, but rather a RW, the faster they can get back on track.

 

[UncleRico]

I disagree- he makes a ton of good decisions out there, and he does play hard. He goes after pucks, digs along the boards, will throw some hits. The problem, like most of the guys, to me, is not the effort, but that his offensive game is in a black hole. Right along with Coyle, Geekie, Frederic, Zacha, and even Brad and Pasta are not playing particularly well on that side of the puck.

I agree to some extent but he’s getting paid a lot of money and needs to produce and drive play. He’s simply not.

These first 3 years are the years that are suppose to be his good years until that contract gets ugly with age. Certainly not getting what we are paying for with Elias

 

[Dr Hook]

I agree to some extent but he’s getting paid a lot of money and needs to produce and drive play. He’s simply not.

These first 3 years are the years that are suppose to be his good years until that contract gets ugly with age. Certainly not getting what we are paying for with Elias

You’ll get no argument from me that he needs to do more offensively.

 

[Helsinki city boy]

He's another Coyle.

Well thats not a surprise. Had his career season as playing between 2 franchise wingers and after that nothing close to.
Saw him last year in Canucks and thought that he might be ok for 2nd line with 6,5 m deal, but to be honest never ever thought he would be no 1 again. I think Sweeney made big mistake going after Lindholm instead of putting all in for Stamkos.

 

[Kalus]

He turns 30 in a month. His $7.75M cap hit is on the books through his age 37 season. He is going to get progressively worse as he regresses with age through the length of this contract. Why did I get so much blowback on here when I said this was a bad contract when it was signed?

 

[goldenblack]

He's one I'm less worried about. Maybe that's naive. I think he's going to find his game.

 

[ae530]

He's another Coyle.

Both of these guys need to go . Can’t leave soon enough

 

[Hookslide]

Both of these guys need to go . Can’t leave soon enough

Coyle he is not, but get use to him for 7 more years, That is another reason why Sweeney should have shared a cab with Monty, out of town.

 

[NDiesel]

I'm not worried, whole team has looked like shit, hard to place too much blame on a new guy learning the system, who lost out on some key time due to offseason injuries.

 

[Over the volcano]

He's one I'm less worried about. Maybe that's naive. I think he's going to find his game.

Missed most of camp, new team, coaching failure. I think when it all shakes out he'll be a good 1b/2 center for them. I am surprised by the physicality he's brought though. Wasn't expecting it from him

 

[BruinDust]

He turns 30 in a month. His $7.75M cap hit is on the books through his age 37 season. He is going to get progressively worse as he regresses with age through the length of this contract. Why did I get so much blowback on here when I said this was a bad contract when it was signed?

There is a notion on HF Boards (not just here) that more players continue their strong performance now into a more advanced age than in the past.

While that may be true if comparing players to guys from the 70s or 80s, but the numbers say there are less and less players still remaining in the league into the ages of 36/37/38/39/40 than ever before. There isn't a single 40-year old in the NHL this year. Using Puck Pedia, there are 4 skaters age 39 (including OV), just one who is 38 (Malkin), and 9 guys age 37 (including Crosby).

And that's here in 2024. What will it be like in 2030? Probably less. It doesn't project well for Lindholm over the life of that contract looking at league-wide trends.

 

[Kalus]

There is a notion on HF Boards (not just here) that more players continue their strong performance now into a more advanced age than in the past.

While that may be true if comparing players to guys from the 70s or 80s, but the numbers say there are less and less players still remaining in the league into the ages of 36/37/38/39/40 than ever before. There isn't a single 40-year old in the NHL this year. Using Puck Pedia, there are 4 skaters age 39 (including OV), just one who is 38 (Malkin), and 9 guys age 37 (including Crosby).

And that's here in 2024. What will it be like in 2030? Probably less. It doesn't project well for Lindholm over the life of that contract looking at league-wide trends.

“Rob Vollman summarizes this quite well in his book Stat Shot: The Ultimate Guide to Hockey Analytics: “Most players hit their peak age by age 24 or 25 then decline gradually until age 30, at which point their performance can begin to tumble more noticeably with the risk of absolute collapse by age 34 or 35.”

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