Value of: Ekholm
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We don't need luck. You're asking for more than what a similar d-man got, and you're the one dellusionnal thinking you can get more on the eve of an ED where lots of team will prefer to keep their younger / cheaper guy signed long term vs a futur UFA to be in Ekholm.
Muzzin got a 1st + 2 B/B- prospects, you'r enot getting more, especially considering the team acquiring him will also need to protect him from SEA (and therefore lose one of their other players)
1st + 2 B prospects + Losing another Dman to SEA = WAYYYYY too much for a d-man of Ekholm's caliber. He's no Jeff Prety brother, he's a 2nd pairing D on a contender.
"We" don't want him traded, and have no influence on his actual value. If he's traded, it'll will likely be to a contender needing that boost for a playoff run. You're delusional if you believe any of our "thoughts" have any actual impact on anything. It's a message board.
It's not a thought, it's plain and simple, Market Value for d-man of Ekholm's caliber was set with Muzzin.
NOW, with the fact NSH prospects pool is one of the worst in the NHL, AND the fact they aren't bad enough to finish in the bottom 5 of the standings, they'll likelly stay in the gutter for another 4-5years easilly, A d-man like Ekholm won't resign there knowing he'll likelly retire befre seeing NSh behing anywhere close to contention again (same as Muzzin)
1- You need to find a contender who needs Ekholm
2- You need to find a contender who doesn't have 3 better d-man then Ekholm (so said team would be more likelly to protect him)
3- You need to find a cntender that wouldn't mind losing one of their other d-man to Seattle after acquiring Ekholm
4- You need to find a contender wou'd rather take Ekholm, than Dumba or Greenway from MIN (cause one of these guys will nee to be traded also before the ED)
All of these factors diminishes Ekholm's value, cause the number of taker decreases.
Remind me again, why would a GM overpay for him then? Answer : They won't, you'll either lose him for nothing in 1.5years, or lose him now, for whatever the acquiring team is ok give for him. You may very well not like the return you'll get fr him. Fact is, SEA coming in at the end of the season pushes Ekholm's value down the drain for a lot of team that would rather protect a d-man who's a bit worse (say Chiarot) but who's signed for longer
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If Ekholm was a top pairing D-man, he'd be worth what Preds fans are asking for. But he isn't.
So you’re saying that there are 31 better left handed defensemans better than ekholm? So by your logic malkin, Tavares and Draisaitl are not number 1 centers. Just because he’s playing behind a Norris caliber defenseman doesn’t mean he’s not a top pair guy.
Zhamnov5GoalGame
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I'd be surprised if the Jets were willing to move a 1st after recent trade deadline moves. The Seattle expansion also weighs heavily on any decisions. The extra year on the contract means that Ekholm needs to fit into the teams draft protection plans.
Plus I have no idea what propsects the team would be willing to move and how those do or don't match up against other prospective trade partners.
Plus I have no idea what propsects the team would be willing to move and how those do or don't match up against other prospective trade partners.
Fine, Ekholm's not a top pairing defenseman. But he IS a 40 point 2nd pairing defenseman who only makes 3.75 and can play on the top pairing...
I'm pretty certain he played right side with Josi when Ellis was injured a year or two ago, and didn't look out of place. Given that I don't think there's many teams he wouldn't be a top pairing guy on tbh. Probably 10 or less. So underrated
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There are what, 62 "top pairing" defensemen in the NHL? Ekholm is easily a top-pairing defenseman. Heck, he was #10 in Norris voting a couple years ago. He just happens to play behind a guy on LD who is one of the best in the league.
Agreed.
His value is similar to what Muzzin got, and therefore, Preds fans asking for more than a 1st + 2 B / B- prospects are out of their minds. He won,t get much, ESPECIALLy with SEA coming this summer. GM's have to factor in who they'll lose to SEA when acquiring Ekholm, whitout knowing if they'll be able to sign him back.
Myers got 6X6, Ekholm won't sign for anything less. The # of teams that can giv him that are slim to none
And Ekholm has reached 40pts ONCE in his career. He's a 30-35pts dman in average.
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Draiskull
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who cares about points from Dmen. A team would add him to become more solid defensively against top lines of competition and not to get production.
He had 33 in 68 last year too. And he plays on the 2nd pairing, give him top pairing minutes and 1st PP minutes he'll score 40 more. He's behind the Norris winner.
Has he done it yet?
Cause GM'S aren't going to gamble on the POSSIBILITY that a 30YO Dman suddently starts getting 40-50pts a season.
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