Proposal: Eichel to Rangers

[Flan the incredible]

Prototypical HFBoards thread.

first page of the comments, someone saying they wouldn't trade Krappo Kakko straight up

wow, all time proposal right there.

Prototypical HFBoards thread.

Someone reads a thread disagrees with another poster and completely ignores the salary cap, players lost from the trade and aftermath of losing more players due to the cap oh and the health of a player to try and make fun of that poster.

Wow, all time short sightedness right there.

Prototypical HFBoards thread.

 

[TheHelmet]

Wow, all time short sightedness right there.

Prototypical HFBoards thread.

It's good that you agree how embarrassing that proposal was.

 

[KingTech]

I think this is a very reasonable take. I definitely don't think those assets would be off-limits in a trade for Eichel. The Rangers aren't going to be able to think that they can just swap Strome for Eichel, add in a back up goalie Georgiyev, and maybe some futures like Kravtsov, Robertson, and think it's going to be anywhere near a viable offer. I don't think the Rangers would want to give up those assets you suggested, but if Eichel is on the table, they might.

Maybe LA beats this offer, as the post above suggests. I don't think the Rangers are gutting their core to bring in Eichel. LA may be thinking the same thing, which is why I'm not convinced any team beats that offer. Giving up a Fox or Shestyorkin or Zibanejad in a trade makes us worse or marginally better to the point where there's no real reason to make such a big deal. If the price isn't detrimental to the future of the franchise, I think they'll make a run. If a team beats that offer and Eichel will accept a trade there, the Rangers can walk away from the table, and keep what they have. They don't need Eichel, by any means.

Please stop bringing la into this hell. They don't need a 10 million dollar center coming off season ending surgery. Especially at the outlandish price ur trying to suggest. Please continue on ur attempt to get him on ur own without bring la into it.

Thanks la king fan since 76
King Tech

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Please stop bringing la into this hell. They don't need a 10 million dollar center coming off season ending surgery. Especially at the outlandish price ur trying to suggest. Please continue on ur attempt to get him on ur own without bring la into it.

Thanks la king fan since 76
King Tech

I didn't bring LA into this. The post above mine suggested LA could beat the Rangers offer.

 

[KingTech]

I didn't bring LA into this. The post above mine suggested LA could beat the Rangers offer.

i may have missed it either way La wants nothing to do with this thread especially at the prices suggested.

 

[BowieSabresFan]

The pointless thread that won't die....

 

[Flan the incredible]

It's good that you agree how embarrassing that proposal was.

Its good you agree it makes zero sense for the Rangers.

 

[Flan the incredible]

i may have missed it either way La wants nothing to do with this thread especially at the prices suggested.

So most Kings fans want nothing to do with Eichel at the suggested prices and most Ranger fans want nothing to do with Eichel at the suggested prices.......its almost like other teams fans are trying to make his value way more then any team wants or will probably give up. So weird

Honestly if he does get moved its going to crash this site for a week with all the I told you so's.

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

i may have missed it either way La wants nothing to do with this thread especially at the prices suggested.

Just out of curiosity, how long have you been a Kings fan?

 

[KingTech]

Just out of curiosity, how long have you been a Kings fan?

1976

 

[rangersfansince08]

Rangers should let another team overpay for Eichel. There's simply too much to like about what's currently cooking with the young guys.

They need to sign a defensive minded center like Danault and re-sign Zibanejad. They will also need the cap space for Fox, Lindgren, Shesterkin, and company down the line.

This. Don't mess what a good thing. Eichel's NMC kicks in after next season right? I think he ends up with the Bruins,

 

[Kublakhan]

The pointless thread that won't die....

Because everyone want's him but no one wants to pay the price.. Typical HF bullshit..

 

[krt88nc]

Please stop bringing la into this hell. They don't need a 10 million dollar center coming off season ending surgery. Especially at the outlandish price ur trying to suggest. Please continue on ur attempt to get him on ur own without bring la into it.

Thanks la king fan since 76
King Tech

He didn’t need surgery but oh well

 

[cwede]

He didn’t need surgery but oh well

 

[TGWL]

It was foolish if anybody thought he was going to wait and hope for the best that by the start of 2021-2022 season he'd be all healed. You kept hearing"should be ready" and "may not require surgery". Wishful thinking.

 

[ElLeetch]

He's broken, expensive, and has yet to fully live up to his potential. Yet people still think he's worth 3+ bluechip assets.

 

[Hasekperreault23]

He's broken, expensive, and has yet to fully live up to his potential. Yet people still think he's worth 3+ bluechip assets.

No question he is..surgery is minor,he hasn't lived up to expectations yet damn well I guess 100 plus points per year from here on in it is.. not being traded

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

He's broken, expensive, and has yet to fully live up to his potential. Yet people still think he's worth 3+ bluechip assets.

That’s 4-5 blue chip assets from what I’ve seen. My problem with him is that I believe he’s an undercover ginger.

 

[N.Y. Orangeman]

He's broken, expensive, and has yet to fully live up to his potential. Yet people still think he's worth 3+ bluechip assets.

And yet, you and your fellow Rags fans continue to lobby to acquire him for the new version of Halak, Ryder and a 2nd...

 

[bernmeister]

And yet, you and your fellow Rags fans continue to lobby to acquire him for the new version of Halak, Ryder and a 2nd...

Most of us do not want to acquire, b'c if no other reason, 10m is STRUCTURAL cap hit issue.

Also flip side, you continue to insist beyond the reasonable ask of min 4 1sts value, that it be done in currency you insist, which is unreasonable, as discussing and agreeing to value is one thing and the payment of that value is another.

Everybody repeat after me.
AS OF MAY 2021, NYR DO NOT HAVE SURPLUS BLUEST BLUE CHIP ELCS, ONLY ENOUGH FOR THEIR OWN NEEDS, HENCE SAME ARE NOT ON THE TABLE.
period.

Another good draft, we parlay proceeds of sale of Strome, Buch, Lindgren into good elc assets, THEN we may consider an indulgence.
Not before.

hopefully Eich is not traded, and if he is, it is to outta division for satisfactory return by team in position to go there, which Rangers are not.

 

[KingTech]

He didn’t need surgery but oh well

Hmm looks like he did but nice try thanks for playing

 

[MarkusKetterer]

Most of us do not want to acquire, b'c if no other reason, 10m is STRUCTURAL cap hit issue.

Also flip side, you continue to insist beyond the reasonable ask of min 4 1sts value, that it be done in currency you insist, which is unreasonable, as discussing and agreeing to value is one thing and the payment of that value is another.

Everybody repeat after me.
AS OF MAY 2021, NYR DO NOT HAVE SURPLUS BLUEST BLUE CHIP ELCS, ONLY ENOUGH FOR THEIR OWN NEEDS, HENCE SAME ARE NOT ON THE TABLE.
period.

Another good draft, we parlay proceeds of sale of Strome, Buch, Lindgren into good elc assets, THEN we may consider an indulgence.
Not before.

hopefully Eich is not traded, and if he is, it is to outta division for satisfactory return by team in position to go there, which Rangers are not.

You keep repeating this damn phrase. But there is never a surplus of “bluest blue chip ELC” guys.

What you really mean to say is “we don’t have a bunch of shitty prospects”.

Although I do agree with Eichel’s $10M contract would be a problem with future expiring contracts.

 

[Roo Returns]

Rangers don't need this guy. They already have a first line center with a history of injuries who is doesn't step it up against meaty teams and can resign him without giving up assets and still save $2 million over Eichel's cap hit.

What they need is a Ryan O'Reily type.

They need skill, they need 2-3 pissed off sandpaper vets who elevate their game against the nasty teams.

 

[bernmeister]

You keep repeating this damn phrase. But there is never a surplus of “bluest blue chip ELC” guys.

What you really mean to say is “we don’t have a bunch of shitty prospects”.

Although I do agree with Eichel’s $10M contract would be a problem with future expiring contracts.

bold = disagree
underline = bs, don't put words in my mouth.

The kings imo do not have across the board surplus of bluest blue chip elcs.
They do appear to have a surplus specifically to the area of pivots, with the rest of the positions a mixed bag.
Most LAK voices here do not want to trade potential of youth for Eich given; not taking a position there, just saying they do actually have the surplus if they wanted to go there.

The Rangers have many more areas -- except C, where the only guy is considered Barron -- that have ample elcs.
But ample here is adequate, not surplus.

We need to cannibalize Kravtsov from any possibility of a W to play a C.
We need Chytil for the other C.
We need Nils L for RD immediately and Schneider for RD beginning end of next season at earliest, he is Trouba replacement.

We have no other RDs of stature.
Kakko, Krav, LaF etc., bare all integral part of the roster.

After KA Miller
we have Robertson, needed for toughness
and Jones. We are not trading Jones, who was praised as another possible Fox, until we are sure what we have.

We could keep Lindgren, exiting elc->rfa, but it is better to keep everyone short term and move Lindy end of next season.

So we really DON'T have surplus.
Stand down and stop asking and stop misrepresenting.

 

[smoneil]

Because everyone want's him but no one wants to pay the price.. Typical HF bullshit..

A good 30% of the thread is actually fans explaining why they don't want him and Buffalo fans pitching a right little fit about it, actually.