Player Discussion: Ehlers

[WaveRaven]

Let's get one thing straight here. The deadline and a pick with a B prospect was not the only path to trading Ehlers.

Mc G and Ehlers might have produced a pretty good return last off season. Hell I would have traded him after getting wingers for PLD.

What a waste of an asset that wasn't willing to commit to the organization.

 

[surixon]

Let's get one thing straight here. The deadline and a pick with a B prospect was not the only path to trading Ehlers.

Mc G and Ehlers might have produced a pretty good return last off season. Hell I would have traded him after getting wingers for PLD.

What a waste of an asset that wasn't willing to commit to the organization.

If there was a deal like that out there I'm sure Chevy would have jumped on it as he did with Trouba and PLD.

My guess is nothing like that was offered.

 

[WaveRaven]

If there was a deal like that out there I'm sure Chevy would have jumped on it as he did with Trouba and PLD.

My guess is nothing like that was offered.

You think they actually tried packaging Ehlers ? I don't. I believe they never really wanted to trade him hoping he'd change his mind.

 

[cbcwpg]

You think they actually tried packaging Ehlers ? I don't. I believe they never really wanted to trade him hoping he'd change his mind.

Daily Faceoff broke news as well that Winnipeg nearly traded Ehlers to Carolina at the trade deadline for a package featuring Martin Necas.

The trade is reported to have collapsed over issues surrounding whether or not Necas was going to sign a long-term contract in Winnipeg.

 

[Daximus]

Daily Faceoff broke news as well that Winnipeg nearly traded Ehlers to Carolina at the trade deadline for a package featuring Martin Necas.

The trade is reported to have collapsed over issues surrounding whether or not Necas was going to sign a long-term contract in Winnipeg.

Yeah 9 times out of 10 when a deal falls apart it generally has to do with the acquiring players not wanting to sign here more than anything else. It sucks because we are always rumoured to be in on a lot of guys over the years but getting them to commit without being here is tough.

 

[surixon]

You think they actually tried packaging Ehlers ? I don't. I believe they never really wanted to trade him hoping he'd change his mind.

As mentioned there are numerous reports on a Fly for Necas deal that fell through due to Necas having no interest in signing here.

They tried to also package him up for Pesce years ago.

The org has tried to deal him multiple times but it seems his trade value doesn't seem to be as high as some of his fans would think.

 

[Daximus]

As mentioned there are numerous reports on a Fly for Necas deal that fell through due to Necas having no interest in signing here.

They tried to also package him up for Pesce years ago.

The org has tried to deal him multiple times but it seems his trade value doesn't seem to be as high as some of his fans would think.

His playoff play was pretty bad up until this past season. Likely had something to do with it.

 

[Buffdog]

Let's get one thing straight here. The deadline and a pick with a B prospect was not the only path to trading Ehlers.

Mc G and Ehlers might have produced a pretty good return last off season. Hell I would have traded him after getting wingers for PLD.

What a waste of an asset that wasn't willing to commit to the organization.

You have no idea what was and wasn't available for Ehlers alone, or Ehlers and Rutger. You're making your point based on an assumption that something decent was on the table without any proof of that actually being true, or any proof of Chevy not attempting that

Chevy knows his shit. The reason the Jets went into last season with Nik unsigned was because that was, in Chevy's opinion, the best option

He could have dealt him for Necas by the sounds of it, but maybe didn't want PLD v2.0 - a player here against their will with no intent on extending

 

[scelaton]

He said a lot of things, said Winnipeg and the boys were like family but who up and leaves their family, I mean look I get it, this is a job for them and the Peg is not the most ideal destination but just wish they didn't talk so much BS even though this is what they are trained to say in front of media etc.

Lots of people have to leave their family to fully realize their potential.
I honestly think he handled the PR part of it as well as he possibly could have.

 

[CanMerc]

I have a new thought….maybe Edmonton will dump Kane and grab Ehlers to play with McDavid

 

[gojetsgo]

I have a new thought….maybe Edmonton will dump Kane and grab Ehlers to play with McDavid

they don't have the cap space and I don't even think ehlers is the type of player they would want to play with mcdavid

 

[CanMerc]

they don't have the cap space and I don't even think ehlers is the type of player they would want to play with mcdavid

I don’t know…they could be a dangerous combo

 

[gojetsgo]

I don’t know…they could be a dangerous combo

both mcdavid and ehlers like to carry the puck with speed, mcdavid would be best with a winger like connor who is elite at finding the open ice, ehlers would become redundant on a line with mcdavid because mcdavid does everything he does as a much higher level + they don't have the cap space

 

[surixon]

both mcdavid and ehlers like to carry the puck with speed, mcdavid would be best with a winger like connor who is elite at finding the open ice, ehlers would become redundant on a line with mcdavid because mcdavid does everything he does as a much higher level + they don't have the cap space

Yup too much redundancy in their games.

 

[Gm0ney]

Ehlers might find a situation that offers him all he desires, but it's hard to get it all. For one thing, there aren't that many real contenders that can guarantee Ehlers top-line billing and also a high cap hit. He and his agent probably know that he might need to compromise, but he might just be ready to move on from Winnipeg. The grass might not be greener, but it might just be a change he's looking for.

I think one aspect we're not discussing is the possibility that Chevy might be more lukewarm about committing to Ehlers than he lets on, and than many fans would prefer.

I think some enterprising team on the upswing might find a Line 1/PP1 spot for a guy who's consistently led the Jets in p/60 at ES and 5v5 over the last few seasons and led the league in primary assists (and the Jets in p/60) on the powerplay. I bet there are maybe 30-31 teams that could squeeze him into their Top 5 in forward TOI, at least...

 

[Heldig]

There has been some chatter that Utah might pursue him. Other than a 2C, a scoring winger is the biggest need.

 

[gojetsgo]

There has been some chatter that Utah might pursue him. Other than a 2C, a scoring winger is the biggest need.

there is a rumor out there that utah is looking to move the #4 overall pick for a top 6 player with size

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Nik would be a fool not to see what other teams may offer, all things being equal in terms of money does he come back or does he move on, I guess it all depends if a team and place that he would like to go to gives him a competitive offer.

Chevy is not going to sit around with his finger up his bum waiting for Ehlers to scope out the market.

When was the last time you heard of a player going to market July 1 and ending up signing with his original team?

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Exactly, Chevy should now be operating on the assumption he's gone and move to plan B. If things fall apart in plan B and Ehlers circles back then fine. But he can't be content as Ehelers fall back option and sit on his hands waiting.

Time to try and get something for his rights.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

They don't seem like the type of ownership that backs up the Brinks truck for anyone. Both Rantanen and Guentzel experienced some time there and knew they didn't want to be there long term

I doubt they offer Nik more than Aho, who makes 9.XM

That said, I think I heard that they're prepared to offer Marner 14M (although I doubt he signs there)

Whatever happens, they need SOMETHING to get them over the next hurdle

That Aho contract was signed 2 years ago. Whole different environment now.

 

[bustamente]

He said a lot of things, said Winnipeg and the boys were like family but who up and leaves their family, I mean look I get it, this is a job for them and the Peg is not the most ideal destination but just wish they didn't talk so much BS even though this is what they are trained to say in front of media etc.

Fans always slurp it up when a player tells them how they love the team and city , he did what he felt he needed to do and disappeared as soon as the season was over by going to the worlds with no questions asked about his future here

 

[roccerfeller]

Yeah, I felt the writing was on the wall for him the minute he booked it out of here not talking to anyone at the end of the year.

Admittedly I interpreted it as “oh nice he didn’t say bye to the great fans he called out a few days earlier maybe this is a prelude to an extension and news that he will keep playing in front of these great fans”

 

[slurpee addict]

I like Ehlers. I also trust Chevy to do the right thing in the right way. In that regard, there is no way Nik is worth anything over 8 Million AAV. I would suggest 7.5 is about right, but he will certainly get more than 8 or 8.5 on the open market. I also don't subscribe to this view that we are losing an asset by not trading him at the deadline or in advance of 1 July (negotiating rights). Whatever happens - we should be viewing him as a monetary amount. If we sign him or don't, that value is always going to be 7.5 - 9 ish Million of $$ for a player. So if it isn't him, we re-purpose that money towards someone else. Yeah it's tough to find guys wanting to play in Winnipeg and guys with his skill level. But for all his flash he still isn't a perfect player (misses time and doesn't really deliver in the Playoffs). We need skill in the top six, but we definitely also need more size and grit in that top six. So here's another opportunity for Chevy to make some lemonade.

 

[Jets 31]

I think Chevy has a good offer on the table for Ehlers but Ehlers wants to check out what he can get as a free agent. Chevy may have tried to trade Ehlers but the deal fell through and he decided to keep Ehlers for the playoffs because we wouldn't have gotten as good a player at the deadline. You can look at it as a wasted asset or you can look at it as we didn't trade anything away to keep Ehlers for the playoffs.

 

[Whileee]

Daily Faceoff broke news as well that Winnipeg nearly traded Ehlers to Carolina at the trade deadline for a package featuring Martin Necas.

The trade is reported to have collapsed over issues surrounding whether or not Necas was going to sign a long-term contract in Winnipeg.

Necas was traded well before the TDL. Necas has another year on his contract, so he would have been much higher value than Ehlers. My guess is that the Jets would have had to give up another top future to acquire Necas and that they were preserving their options to try to acquire a 2C instead.