Proposal: Ehlers to Buffalo

[freester]

Krebs and Jokiharu for a non extended Ehlers.
What other reasonable add from Buffalo is needed?

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[Jacob582]

Krebs and Jokiharu for a non extended Ehlers.
What other reasonable add from Buffalo is needed?

A first round draft pick.

 

[johnnybbadd]

Sabres don’t need him. They have similar young players that they have to pay in a year like Quinn and Peterka. Plus they want Kulich to make the jump soon.

 

[BLNY]

Krebs and Jokiharu for a non extended Ehlers.
What other reasonable add from Buffalo is needed?

Don't think this one is going to entice the Jets too much.

 

[Weltschmerz]

Would guess the price doesn't change if unextended. Peg would rather use him as own rental (if they really can't get him to sign) than take an offer that makes the team worse.

 

[Dr Quincy]

Krebs and Jokiharu for a non extended Ehlers.
What other reasonable add from Buffalo is needed?

I'd say take out Krebs and add something better than either one of them.

 

[freester]

Sabres don’t need him. They have similar young players that they have to pay in a year like Quinn and Peterka. Plus they want Kulich to make the jump soon.

Sabres definitely need a top 6 winger now. Kulich is not ready for that.

 

[Chan790]

Krebs and Jokiharu for a non extended Ehlers.
What other reasonable add from Buffalo is needed?

The Sabres just re-signed Joker, I doubt the Sabres FO considers him available. I don't think Krebs has half the value Sabres fans hope he does.

 

[Hasekperreault23]

Sabres definitely need a top 6 winger now. Kulich is not ready for that.

Benson,Quinn,Peterka,Tuch..

 

[freester]

Benson,Quinn,Peterka,Tuch..

Benson belongs on the 3rd line

 

[HogtownSabresfan]

Sabres don’t need him. They have similar young players that they have to pay in a year like Quinn and Peterka. Plus they want Kulich to make the jump soon.

You do if you boost your odds of making the playoffs. I don't see how Sabres are even 50/50 now. Maybe close.

Just a question of how much you pay for one year. They have already started putting their money in the pot for 2024-25 with a buyout of Skinner, trading Savoie for McLeod. Those moves are almost entirely about this year.

If you are already betting so much on trying to make it one year (yeah, it's mostly dumb), should you go all in? I would throw Rosen into that deal but not much more. We could sign someone to add depth for losing Jokiharju. Krebs is a crapshoot, but his window is narrowing.

Ehlers has a modified NTC so it the Sabres blow up again, you trade him at deadline for a late 1st likely and get some assets back.

The desperation to make the playoffs seems real. I wouldn't rule anything out.

 

[Hasekperreault23]

Benson belongs on the 3rd line

Why is that? You have Zucker and Greenway.Benson needs to play with more offensive players to bring out his high offensive potential and elevates the other two players on that line

 

[Sabre the Win]

Benson belongs on the 3rd line

Benson was 18 playing in the NHL last year so to say he's a 3rd liner is disingenuous, could he be there this year yes but to think he can't build off a 30 point season at 18 is ridiculous.

 

[Tasteless Beaver]

Krebs and Jokiharu for a non extended Ehlers.
What other reasonable add from Buffalo is needed?

A bust and an overpaid bottom pairing defenseman on a one year contract, wow where do we sign?

 

[Meichel Kane]

A bust and an overpaid bottom pairing defenseman on a one year contract, wow where do we sign?

I imagine it's all digital now.

 

[dkollidas]

I believe a realistic expectation for an unextended Ehlers would be:

A) 2025 1st round pick
+
B) Krebs or Jokiharju
+
C) a lesser prospect like Kisakov, Poltapov, or a 2nd round pick.

 

[tsujimoto74]

I believe a realistic expectation for an unextended Ehlers would be:

A) 2025 1st round pick
+
B) Krebs or Jokiharju
+
C) a lesser prospect like Kisakov, Poltapov, or a 2nd round pick.

That kind of return makes sense from a team that’s confident they’re making the playoffs. Buffalo’s 1st really shouldn’t be on the table unless we’re getting a player with term.

 

[dkollidas]

That kind of return makes sense from a team that’s confident they’re making the playoffs. Buffalo’s 1st really shouldn’t be on the table unless we’re getting a player with term.

I agree to an extent but at the same time their prospect pool is very solid.

If you’re going to go for it, this is the type of deal i think it’ll take to get a good team like Winnipeg to deal Ehlers.

 

[Adam da bomb]

I believe a realistic expectation for an unextended Ehlers would be:

A) 2025 1st round pick
+
B) Krebs or Jokiharju
+
C) a lesser prospect like Kisakov, Poltapov, or a 2nd round pick.

As a jets fan, unless that 1st is high not great, neither kebs or joker impress me much.

 

[dgibb10]

I believe a realistic expectation for an unextended Ehlers would be:

A) 2025 1st round pick
+
B) Krebs or Jokiharju
+
C) a lesser prospect like Kisakov, Poltapov, or a 2nd round pick.

For a 6 mill rental winger?

Think more in line with the Tyler Toffoli price last offseason

 

[FlappyGiraffe]

For a 6 mill rental winger?

Think more in line with the Tyler Toffoli price last offseason

I've had the pleasure of watching both of those guys on the same team last season.

Ehlers >>>> Toffoli, there's a reason he's been a journeyman 30 goal scorer

 

[Dirty Dog]

Krebs, Joker, and a 2nd is the new Ryder & Co

 

[dgibb10]

I've had the pleasure of watching both of those guys on the same team last season.

Ehlers >>>> Toffoli, there's a reason he's been a journeyman 30 goal scorer

Toffoli in 22-23: 34 goals and 73 points.

Ehlers has career highs of 29 goals and 64 points.

And also makes 33% more money than toffoli did.

 

[FlappyGiraffe]

Toffoli in 22-23: 34 goals and 73 points.

Ehlers has career highs of 29 goals and 64 points.

And also makes 33% more money than toffoli did.

Again, I've had the pleasure of watching both of those guys on the same team last season.

To me (and I imagine Chevaldayoff) Ehlers >>> Toffoli, despite what your hockeydb scouting says

 

[dgibb10]

Again, I've had the pleasure of watching both of those guys on the same team last season.

To me (and I imagine Chevaldayoff) Ehlers >>> Toffoli, despite what your hockeydb scouting says

Yep, and he makes 1.5 mill more to offset that. Lower your expectations on what a 60 point rental winger making 6 mill returns