Prospect Info: Eduard Sale - Forward (Round 1, Pick #20 - 2023 Draft)

[Gniwder]

That's the exact thing teams were supposedly worried about. On the Athletic Pod the prospect writers said that a scout wondered if Sale liked hockey. That's a scary question. He won't get anywhere without passion.

I personally won't call him poor man's Mantha though, he's right up there in talent in my book.

Mantha has size and skating, and by size I don't mean just height, 6'5" 234 lbs. That's a big boy, and he likes to break his own fist on other people's faces. And he can skate when he wants to.

But holy cow, I know stoners with more motivation than he has. Barely puts in an effort since he got his big contract, and it's an absolute shame because he could literally be a top 10 player in this league if he had half the motivation that Matty has.

At 20th any prospect on the board is going to have some significant flaw.

Yes I realize that, I've been following hockey for more than 4 decades. I don't think there were any prospects that looked better at #20, so in no ways was I implying that Francis screwed up. There weren't even any defensemen with any upside either. Guys like Bonk are available in free agency or trade all the time, his upside is second pair stay at home, and they trade for a second round pick (Graves for example).


I'm just disappointed about Moore getting picked just one pick before the Kraken. That's the frustration you are sensing, nothing more. I have generally like the way Francis drafts, ED aside.

 

[majormajor]

On compete level ... he was an underage kid, who is visibly not yet developed in his upper body, playing against men in the Czech pro league.

Obviously, who knows at this point, but I'd be super surprised if he was out physical-ing people given that situation. (Reality is not like the commercial of the pee-wee leaguer, supposedly Stamkos' kid, crushing the full grown man into the boards.)

Sale had a lot of no shows internationally too (U20 and U18), mixed in with games where he was the best player. I was forgiving of the results in the Czech league and had him top ten earlier in the year, it was the inconsistent play internationally that made me sour on him a bit.

 

[GettingYourMoms]

Mantha has size and skating, and by size I don't mean just height, 6'5" 234 lbs. That's a big boy, and he likes to break his own fist on other people's faces. And he can skate when he wants to.

But holy cow, I know stoners with more motivation than he has. Barely puts in an effort since he got his big contract, and it's an absolute shame because he could literally be a top 10 player in this league if he had half the motivation that Matty has.




Yes I realize that, I've been following hockey for more than 4 decades. I don't think there were any prospects that looked better at #20, so in no ways was I implying that Francis screwed up. There weren't even any defensemen with any upside either. Guys like Bonk are available in free agency or trade all the time, his upside is second pair stay at home, and they trade for a second round pick (Graves for example).


I'm just disappointed about Moore getting picked just one pick before the Kraken. That's the frustration you are sensing, nothing more. I have generally like the way Francis drafts, ED aside.

Only thing Mantha has ever broken was his fingers, dude had frail hands.

 

[Gniwder]

Only thing Mantha has ever broken was his fingers, dude had frail hands.

Isn't that what I said? "he likes to break his own fist on other people's faces", lol.

Bit of a thread drift, but here's the video.

 

[The Marquis]

Anybody know how Barrie is for development?

 

[kihei]

I just noticed that Sale was picked at #7 in Craig Button's final ranking.

 

[The Marquis]

You all, I think we need to recognize that this kid may have rolled a 1 or 2 in charisma. I’m actually pretty positive that’s the case.

 

[rsteen]

You all, I think we need to recognize that this kid may have rolled a 1 or 2 in charisma. I’m actually pretty positive that’s the case.

Isn't that why Wright is a Kraken?

 

[The Marquis]

Isn't that why Wright is a Kraken?

Wright didn't roll super high, but he rolled high enough to hide it.

 

[Sad People]

 

[Fistfullofbeer]

Wright didn't roll super high, but he rolled high enough to hide it.

That's bad if you roll a D20.

 

[The Marquis]

That's bad if you roll a D20.

After his interview today I’m thinking Wright has actually been hiding how high he rolled, but in the opposite way. Kid has some charisma.

 

[RainyCityHockey]

You all, I think we need to recognize that this kid may have rolled a 1 or 2 in charisma. I’m actually pretty positive that’s the case.

I think it has more to do with being a european prospect and not north amercian.

They don't school this kids as much in PR and media stuff and because of that you actually get some kind of answers that don't feel scripted.

 

[The Marquis]

I think it has more to do with being a european prospect and not north amercian.

They don't school this kids as much in PR and media stuff and because of that you actually get some kind of answers that don't feel scripted.

His personality is starting to come out now in camp interviews. He definitely struggles with English at this point, but he’ll be living in Canada and learning how not to say the first a in Pasta, so there’s that.

 

[RayMartyniukTotems]

Anyone know who drafted E Sale in the CHL Import draft?

Forget it no one seemed to have drafted the youngster E Sale...Guess he'll play in Czechia again with the men

 

[Gniwder]

Anyone know who drafted E Sale in the CHL Import draft?

Forget it no one seemed to have drafted the youngster E Sale...Guess he'll play in Czechia again with the men

Barrie Colts OHL, #29 OA, last July. That is where he is expected to play.

 

[RayMartyniukTotems]

Barrie Colts OHL, #29 OA, last July. That is where he is expected to play.

Barrie Colts eh? Well Good Luck to the young Winger wishing for a 40-45 goal campaign next year and 55-60 the season after if he's playing Juniors in Canada

 

[GettingYourMoms]

If this guy has anything less than 120 point season in OHL, it is going to be at least from my perspective huge disappointment.

 

[Kat Predator]

If this guy has anything less than 120 point season in OHL, it is going to be at least from my perspective huge disappointment.

The OHL league leader in points in 22-23 had 111.

Maybe don't set so low a bar? Anything less than 250 should be a disappointment.

 

[GettingYourMoms]

The OHL league leader in points in 22-23 had 111.

Maybe don't set so low a bar? Anything less than 250 should be a disappointment.

Please be realistic, i am being serious...

 

[Kat Predator]

Please be realistic, i am being serious...

And I was being sarcastic. (note -> )

PS: If you want to be disappointed if he isn't the top scorer in the OHL next season, I'm perfectly ok with that.

 

[Fistfullofbeer]

Please be realistic, i am being serious...

Is it realistic to expect a European player to hit 120 points in their first season in NA? You may be setting yourself up for disappointment with a target like that.

 

[RainyCityHockey]

Is it realistic to expect a European player to hit 120 points in their first season in NA? You may be setting yourself up for disappointment with a target like that.

I think it must be.

I've heard that Sale's goal was about 264 points next season and heard his comment was supposed to be "f*ck it, I'll do it"....or something along the lines of that....

 

[GettingYourMoms]

Hahaha Seattle fans are SOOOO funny. I just wanted to start serious conversation but nooooo...

 

[luapejrug]

Hahaha Seattle fans are SOOOO funny. I just wanted to start serious conversation but nooooo...

Then in all seriousness, assuming that you've been following him this season, what makes you think he can put up 120 points in the O? I know he has the skill to be a top player, but those are also very high expectations and I think Seattle fans are weary to put huge expectations on players seeing whats been going on with Shane Wright this year.