Duke74
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That's the dream scenario!
Pre-Game Talk: Edmonton vs Vegas
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Duke74
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Yeah, I'm getting so tired of it. Next year, we should shut him down for the entire regular season, get the LTIR to snab $14 million of players, and get a fresh Leon for the playoffs.
TopShelfGloveSide
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He’s 4-0 in the playoffs. Outplayed a Vezina candidate. Locked it down every time the chips were all on the table.
Far from Picasso though I agree but still… the man wins hockey games.
Desharnais got blamed for what was perceived as some major mistakes in both the Vegas and LA series that year, but it was just him getting stuck out with Nurse after PK shifts. Most of them were just Nurse fumbling around and getting caught with possession, and handing off the puck to Desharnais(usually bad passes made in panic) and hanging him out to dry.
Players move on, but there is one constant with the Oiler's defense in the playoffs over the last 5 years - Nurse is a liability both to his team and whatever defenseman unfortunate enough to be partnered with him.
KCC
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I'm going to be in the minority here, but after playing LA, I think the Kings series will end up being more challenging than the LV series for the Oilers, when all is said and done.
Vegas is a very slow team and has an especially slow defensive lineup. The Oilers have been the fastest team in the playoffs overall and can use that speed to take advantage of Vegas' slow defense, especially guys like McNabb and Hague. They can kill Vegas in transition and generate a lot of offense there. And they're going to need to, because once you set up in Vegas's zone, they just clog up the centre of the ice and block everything that comes within a 20 foot radius of the net.
Vegas is a very slow team and has an especially slow defensive lineup. The Oilers have been the fastest team in the playoffs overall and can use that speed to take advantage of Vegas' slow defense, especially guys like McNabb and Hague. They can kill Vegas in transition and generate a lot of offense there. And they're going to need to, because once you set up in Vegas's zone, they just clog up the centre of the ice and block everything that comes within a 20 foot radius of the net.
bone
5-14-6-1
I remember pretty vividly him f***ing up pretty badly at least twice in Game 1 leading directly to goals on the first shift after a goal for. Seeing the numbers for the rest of the series, I must have blocked him out to not notice that he was basically perfect from there on out. Interesting.
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bone
5-14-6-1
Interesting. Thought I'd look them up on NHL Edge and sure enough, they aren't an overly fast team, but LA wasn't really either, but generally quicker than Vegas.
NHL EDGE Puck and Player Tracking Statistics - Comparisons
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KeithIsActuallyBad
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Nurse has to be sheltered. Bouchard can’t be out with him, ever.
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bone
5-14-6-1
Doing the Edge comparison between Edmonton. Sure looks like speed is a big swing Edmonton's way, but goals and shooting percentage better with Vegas.
Vegas seems to be good at getting a higher number of shot from inside the circle inside the lane to the net, especially on the left side. We'll need good forward support in the d-zone, particularly from the right wings.
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Vegas seems to be good at getting a higher number of shot from inside the circle inside the lane to the net, especially on the left side. We'll need good forward support in the d-zone, particularly from the right wings.
NHL EDGE Puck and Player Tracking Statistics - Comparisons
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Nurse desperately needs to stop making bad pinches towards the boards and leaving the middle of the ice wide open. It's been a significant factor in multiple of the goals against.Doing the Edge comparison between Edmonton. Sure looks like speed is a big swing Edmonton's way, but goals and shooting percentage better with Vegas.
Vegas seems to be good at getting a higher number of shot from inside the circle inside the lane to the net, especially on the left side. We'll need good forward support in the d-zone, particularly from the right wings.
NHL EDGE Puck and Player Tracking Statistics - Comparisons
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If he can clean that up, I do think it would move the needle. That, and gap control.
bone
5-14-6-1
My god were those two yesterday leading to breakaways were terrible. I can't imagine what the scribes would be writing about Bouchard if he did the same thing as Nurse did on those 2. The first maybe was a reasonable idea if Drai can get back in time, but then he didn't really do anything after challenging the carrier. The 2nd breakaway was one of the dumbest plays ever. Abandoned 2 players that were behind coverage on a tough play for his partner to complete.
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I’m more pissed about Pietrangelo only getting 1 game for the cheap slash on Draisaitl after the empty net goal which essentially took his goal scoring ability away for the rest of the series. Given the magnitude of the slash and the timing of when it happened should have been the end of the playoffs for Pietrangelo.
bone
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Actually we are set up pretty good for this.
Perry
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Frederic
Kane
Podkolzin
That's some serious beef and pretty high skill causing havoc and getting up in Hill's grill.
Gap control is a big one, and not just for Nurse. Other than in game 5, the Oilers D were giving LA's forwards far too much space on the rush, including Kempe, who is among the elite of the elite of shooters. I would argue that no one on Vegas can shoot in-stride like Kempe, but they still have guys who become immediate scoring threats the moment the D gives them more than a stick's length of space in the defensive zone. Karlsson, Eichel, Hertl will make Edmonton pay if they're given too much room.
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Just looking at Vegas series win vs Minny. Won every game by a goal (excluding one 19:59 ENG) and got the better of Minny on special teams in 3 of those games, and even in 1 (Vegas 1 SHG, Minny 1 PPG in that one).
Overall, Vegas 4 PPG, 2 SHG. Minny 3 PPG.
Minny got the better of them 5v5 in the series. No surprise Vegas got more PP ops, 18 to 13, but there's no excusing Minny going 3GF, 2GA on the PP. Special teams killed them as they lost 4 close games.
I don't worry too much about our PP getting things done, but obviously worry about an imbalance of opportunities. Getting back to our old ways on the PK can be huge in this series.
Overall, Vegas 4 PPG, 2 SHG. Minny 3 PPG.
Minny got the better of them 5v5 in the series. No surprise Vegas got more PP ops, 18 to 13, but there's no excusing Minny going 3GF, 2GA on the PP. Special teams killed them as they lost 4 close games.
I don't worry too much about our PP getting things done, but obviously worry about an imbalance of opportunities. Getting back to our old ways on the PK can be huge in this series.
Messrules11
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I had so much trepidation coming into the playoffs, mainly Skinner, I just knew he would shit the bed. Thank goodness Picks has taken the ball. Now let’s f***ing go!
Mcnofool6110
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And for today's roster:
Leon Draisaitl- Connor McDavid - Corey Perry
Evander Kane - Ryan Nugent-Hopkins - Zach Hyman
Trent Frederic - Adam Henrique - Connor Brown
Vasili Podkolzin - Mattias Janmark - Viktor Arvidsson
Darnell Nurse - Evan Bouchard
Jake Walman - John Klingberg
Brett Kulak - Ty Emberson
Calvin Pickard
Stuart Skinner
Inj: Mattias Ekholm
HM(S): Troy Stecher, Jeff Skinner
Vs
William Karlsson - Jack Eichel - Mark Stone
Brandon Saad - Tomas Hertl - Victor Olofsson
Ivan Barbashev - Nicholas Roy - Reilly Smith
Tanner Pearson - Brett Howden - Keegan Kolesar
Brayden McNabb - Shea Theodore
Noah Hanifin - Alex Pietroangelo
Nicholas Hague - Zach Whitecloud
Adin Hill
Ilya Samsonov
Inj: Pavel Dorofeyev (sat game 6)
HM(S): Cole Schwindt, Ben Hutton
I read that Monday the venue was booked so probably Tuesday at the earliest now, maybe Tuesday Thursday then to Edmonton for Saturday Monday? Back to Vegas Wednesday and we can finish them off at home on Friday night the weekend after next haha
