Confirmed with Link: Edmonton trades for Trent Frederic and Max Jones and rights to Petr Hauser for Shane Lachance, Max Wanner, St. Louis' 2nd pick in `25, Edm 4th in `26

[aspin3]

Sure. Bigger, physical players with scoring touch generally have a high demand at the deadline, and it's the type of player the Oilers need.

The 2nd, 4th, and Lechance have about a 1% chance of being anything of relevance cumulatively.

That is SOOOO far from accurate. Lachance himself has a much higher percentage than that. As for a mid-second round pick. ....also much higher than that.

Scroll down the second round....how many blanks do you see that havent played any NHL games?

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[K1984]

That's what they said about Andreychuk

Lol now he's Andreychuk

 

[guymez]

That is SOOOO far from accurate. Lachance himself has a much higher percentage than that. As for a mid-second round pick. ....also much higher than that.

So 5 times more...like 5%?

 

[K1984]

That is SOOOO far from accurate. Lachance himself has a much higher percentage than that. As for a mid-second round pick. ....also much higher than that.

I'll let you go ahead and get caught up on how many 2nd rounders end up as impactful players in the NHL.

Lachance is much, much, much more likely to never play a minute in the NHL than he is to ever be an impactful player. By a significant margin.

 

[North]

That's what they said about Andreychuk

Okay if you have to look that far back your point sucks.

 

[Jumptheshark]

Sure. Bigger, physical players with scoring touch generally have a high demand at the deadline, and it's the type of player the Oilers need.

The 2nd, 4th, and Lechance have about a 1% chance of being anything of relevance cumulatively.

The 4th yes, But the 2nd has a 50% of making the NHL and Lechance is a guy that is a massive wild card. Many who have seen him play say he is in the nhl within 24 months

 

[McSuper]

I like fredric, I actually think he is exactly what the oilers need in the bottom 6.... that being said I think this is an overpay for him when hes a UFA and injured. Not impressed with this trade at all, oilers have one draft pick in 2025, and we lost 2 top 10 prospects... going all in when the team looks slow and old and with the goalie situation unresolved... just not good.

Oilers are pulling a Vegas and will stash him on Kane on ltir until the playoffs to open up cap space . I think we add a D and goalie.

 

[K1984]

The 4th yes, But the 2nd has a 50% of making the NHL and Lechance is a guy that is a massive wild card. Many who have seen him play say he is in the nhl within 24 months

I don't think just making the NHL is a bar that matters. Usually there are around 2-4 players that are anything above pure replacement level at best that go in the 2nd round. The rest can just be signed for league minimum or traded for a low round pick.

Many have also said he can't skate, and wasn't inclined to sign here.

 

[Soundwave]

Oilers are pulling a Vegas and will stash him on Kane on ltir until the playoffs to open up cap space . I think we add a D and goalie.

Not sure if that's really great though, Frederic probably really could use some regular season games here to get acclimated with entirely new teammates.

 

[ManofSteel55]

Not sure if that's really great though, Frederic probably really could use some regular season games here to get acclimated with entirely new teammates.

Yeah, I'm fine with Kane on LTIR, but Frederic needs to get a few games in to learn our system and his teammates. Plus, John Shannon said only a 2-3 weeks longer until he is healthy, most likely.

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

"Sounds expensive"

Lot riding on a hurt, American UFA to be and a throw-in AHL/NHL tweener. I liked Zack Jones three plus years ago as a maybe buy low wrecking ball. Oil will need a healthy Frederic and team that can stabilize into a deep run. This deal is a win if that happens and if the guy can be re-signed.

Oil prospect pool is now only a concept. With big cap jumps coming this franchise is going to have to flex its buying power to build around the super elite core.

 

[OfCorsiDid]

Rocking that Adam Henrique statline.

We overpaid IMO but the size!!!! types get what they want I guess.

Not sure if anyone pointed this out but Frederic has the lowest PDO on the B’s.

If there ever was a candidate for a bounce back on a new team after getting healthy this is probably the guy.

It’s a smart move imo. He’s a pending UFA too so there’s an out for us if he doesn’t work.

 

[oXo Cube]

So we've traded for 3 hurt players this year and so far only one as played 3 games then got rehurt. Not good.

Semi related to this but what's up with that Regula dude?

He get Klefbom'd?

 

[unicornBLOOD]

That is SOOOO far from accurate. Lachance himself has a much higher percentage than that. As for a mid-second round pick. ....also much higher than that.

Scroll down the second round....how many blanks do you see that havent played any NHL games?

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www.eliteprospects.com

but if Lacchance wasn't going to sign with us, which all reports point towards that, what can you do? he's an American college kid, we've been burned buy them before. Remember Marino? what did they get for him, a 4th or 5th, no much. this was the cost, you want to add someone, you have to pay.

 

[brentashton]

"Sounds expensive"

Lot riding on a hurt, American UFA to be and a throw-in AHL/NHL tweener. I liked Zack Jones three plus years ago as a maybe buy low wrecking ball. Oil will need a healthy Frederic and team that can stabilize into a deep run. This deal is a win if that happens and if the guy can be re-signed.

Oil prospect pool is now only a concept. With big cap jumps coming this franchise is going to have to flex its buying power to build around the super elite core.

You aren’t wrong. The cupboard is bare for the foreseeable future.

The benefit to the cap rising so rapidly and by the large amount, there will be fewer teams spending right to the cap because of cash flow and other business reasons. Having a flush owner willing to spend all of the annual cap will give the Oiler’s an advantage over an estimated 1/3 of the league, by being able to be involved in more UFA transactions than these others.

Its not the best way to build an organization (the Oilers need to shore up their pro scouting dept to make these UFA adds meaningful) but at least they should still be able to compete for an above average roster into McDrai’s later contract stages.

 

[aspin3]

I don't think just making the NHL is a bar that matters. Usually there are around 2-4 players that are anything above pure replacement level at best that go in the 2nd round. The rest can just be signed for league minimum or traded for a low round pick.

Many have also said he can't skate, and wasn't inclined to sign here.

The stating he wasnt going to sign here is not even a rumour let alone substantiated. As for league minimum players....outsidef ELC players which we will never have because we trade all our prospects and draft picks, very few make league minimum that are more than a 15th forward. If it was that easy to get someone that can hit or skate we would have done it long ago.

 

[belair]

If Fredric signs with us that is great and the value of the trade is good. If he does not we traded two of our better prospects including LaChance who is a surefire NHL player, the compensation we got for Broberg, and a 4th for Petr Hauser and Max Jones. To top it off...worst case scenario is Fredric signs in St. Louis and we have the Blues pilllaging us again.....taking Broberg, Holloway, Fredric for basically nothing (except Fischer) because we gave away what we got for broberg

Have you ever seen that guy skate?

 

[aspin3]

but if Lacchance wasn't going to sign with us, which all reports point towards that, what can you do? he's an American college kid, we've been burned buy them before. Remember Marino? what did they get for him, a 4th or 5th, no much. this was the cost, you want to add someone, you have to pay.

What are these "all reports" the first that has ever been brought up which is just throwingg stuff against the wall is today. Show me anything before today where it stated it and he was not a UFA this summer anyway. As Servalli pointed out the comparable cost for Fredric is a 2nd round. We gave a 2nd, a 4th, our third best prospect, a promisning defensive prospect for Fredric and an AHL and a 6th round prospect.

Have you ever seen that guy skate?

Yep. Does great against men in college. Many big guys with hands have carved out a path in the NHl that were not great skaters....something that can be worked on as well. Captain of one of the best college programs in the US as a sophmore and a point of game player.

 

[aspin3]

"Sounds expensive"

Lot riding on a hurt, American UFA to be and a throw-in AHL/NHL tweener. I liked Zack Jones three plus years ago as a maybe buy low wrecking ball. Oil will need a healthy Frederic and team that can stabilize into a deep run. This deal is a win if that happens and if the guy can be re-signed.

Oil prospect pool is now only a concept. With big cap jumps coming this franchise is going to have to flex its buying power to build around the super elite core.

The irony is they made a big deal of creating a robust development program to develop.......no one.

 

[Jumptheshark]

I don't think just making the NHL is a bar that matters. Usually there are around 2-4 players that are anything above pure replacement level at best that go in the 2nd round. The rest can just be signed for league minimum or traded for a low round pick.

Many have also said he can't skate, and wasn't inclined to sign here.

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4 random drafts. Look at the 2nd round a later.

The % of players making the league are mostly based upon when the league was a 21 team league, we are now at 32 so the % of the players in the 2nd and 3rd round have now increased

 

[belair]

What are these "all reports" the first that has ever been brought up which is just throwingg stuff against the wall is today. Show me anything before today where it stated it and he was not a UFA this summer anyway. As Servalli pointed out the comparable cost for Fredric is a 2nd round. We gave a 2nd, a 4th, our third best prospect, a promisning defensive prospect for Fredric and an AHL and a 6th round prospect.


Yep. Does great against men in college. Many big guys with hands have carved out a path in the NHl that were not great skaters....something that can be worked on as well. Captain of one of the best college programs in the US as a sophmore and a point of game player.

A point per game? No, not quite.

He's had a good year on a fairly decent program where he's had the ability to compliment some pretty good prospects.

I was high on him and Wanner as prospects, but realistically these are deep cuts that were a good two or three seasons prior to even getting a sniff of NHL time.

I liked Frederic as a target earlier this season and think that he's a great option to fill that Foegele role for us over the next few seasons. And his down year statistically might make it easier to get his cap number down.

 

[aspin3]

A point per game? No, not quite.

He's had a good year on a fairly decent program where he's had the ability to compliment some pretty good prospects.

I was high on him and Wanner as prospects, but realistically these are deep cuts that were a good two or three seasons prior to even getting a sniff of NHL time.

I liked Frederic as a target earlier this season and think that he's a great option to fill that Foegele role for us over the next few seasons. And his down year statistically might make it easier to get his cap number down.

I hope you do see the irony though of paying what we did for Fredric and IF we can sign him it will be for more than we could have matched Holloway for and would still have Lachance, and a second and Wanner and a 4th.

 

[Boner Pills]

Can't wait for Frederic to finish a few checks and Knobber to pull him aside and tell him, "we don't do that here."

jk. I like Knob but this team plays a pretty pansy-ass go-into-the-corner-with-eggs-in-your-pants brand of soft hockey.

Yep, Staples article on this trade says Oilers are dead last in hits this season, down 40% from last, and lowest in 18yrs.

 

[Spawn]

What are these "all reports" the first that has ever been brought up which is just throwingg stuff against the wall is today.

Yep, the instant he gets traded it’s time to start making stuff up. It’s like when we traded away Kesselring and people said it was because he didn’t want to play here and wouldn’t sign (that one was especially stupid because he was already under contract with Edmonton).

Lachance paid his own way to 3 development camps for the Oilers. There’s never been any indication he wouldn’t sign here that I’ve seen.

 

[McDNicks17]

I don't mind it. I'm lower than most on Wanner and Lachance though.

Wanner has always kind of been a nothing prospect to me. If his name was Maxim Wanné and he played in the QMJHL, no one would even know his name. His hype was entirely manufactured by Stauffer talking up anyone who plays in the WHL.

Lachance has always struck me as an Alex Chiasson-esque tweener. Not quite enough skill to play in the top6. Not quite enough tools to play in the bottom 6. He's kind of like Chiasson where he scores a lot on the PP, but it's rare you'll see any 3rd/4th liner on an NHL PP. I don't think he's much of a loss.


Hopefully they don't fool around and play Frederic on McDavid's wing.