Confirmed with Link: Edmonton trades for Trent Frederic and Max Jones and rights to Petr Hauser for Shane Lachance, Max Wanner, St. Louis' 2nd pick in `25, Edm 4th in `26

[iCanada]

Frederic was the leafs nightmare in the playoffs last year.

I like him if even just for that.

I do hope we're not done though.

 

[bone]

Well what happens to Skinner then? And then with Kane coming back? Trade Kane?

They can only play 2 of Skinner, Frederic, Savoie, Kapanen, Kane.

Skinner can't be waived, so who knows. I'm sure Edmonton would love to trade him, but there has to be a taker that wants him and is in the playoffs as he ain't accepting any trade to a lottery team.

 

[guymez]

At this point, what's done is done, so I'm looking forward to seeing if they can unlock him similarly to how they unlocked Maroon years ago. Hopefully two months from now we aren't talking about the acquisition costs anymore. Hopefully this hasn't impacted their ability to look at a few other needs that still are out there.

Thats just it right?
I really like the phrase "unlock". There is a lot to consider here and I dont see the justification of putting a completely negative spin on this deal especially with the retention.

 

[bone]

Frederic was the leafs nightmare in the playoffs last year.

I like him if even just for that.

I do hope we're not done though.

You do realize almost any player at full playoff intensity has generally been a nightmare for the Leafs with the current core.

Thats just it right?
I really like the phrase "unlock". There is a lot to consider here and I dont see the justification of putting a completely negative spin on this deal especially with the retention.

For sure. For today I'll bitch about acquisition costs, but once he arrives in town all that matters is how he plays.

 

[Spawn]

A 2nd + 4th + 2 prospects for an injured UFA 3rd/4th liner who might be out until the playoffs?

Lmao

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Now tell us who took over your account?

Believe me, I've got the "Management sucks" post locked and loaded.

Also fire Dustin Schwartz.

 

[Tom Brady]

I don't hate this trade but I feel like Wanner was a throw in, a 2nd round pick should've been enough for Frederic. Bruins fans like the return.

 

[WhiskeyEE]

Frederic was the leafs nightmare in the playoffs last year.

I like him if even just for that.

I do hope we're not done though.

What would be the point of the 2nd retention if they are done making deals? I think there's no way they're done. This seems like a smaller deadline move although I could be wrong.

 

[McBeastMode]

 

[iCanada]

I don't hate this trade but I feel like Wanner was a throw in, a 2nd round pick should've been enough for Frederic. Bruins fans like the return.

I'll say that honestly, I think the organization was punting Wanner for the behaviours that led to his year long chl ban.

I'll leave it at that.

 

[Drivesaitl]

If this is true then isn’t this a useless trade? What am I missing here?

You're missing the blind optimism usually found around here any time theres a trade. Its been a recurring injury as well for Frederik this season so not sure if he even plays. For sure theres no certainty one way or the other. Just people picking best possible synopsis by default.

 

[guymez]

What would be the point of the 2nd retention if they are done making deals? I think there's no way they're done. This seems like a smaller deadline move although I could be wrong.

Thats my read on this too. No need for the 2nd retention unless there is more coming.
I am expecting a busy couple of days and based on the deals today this team will likely have a different look to it for the playoffs.

 

[Bumblebee Man]

The last thing I will say about this.

Is it screams the same issue our pro scouts and management have had for a long time.

They saw a player good once, haven’t paid attention for a while and see the player as the guy they remember, not the one they currently are.

It has effected us getting players who have fallen off a cliff, or it causes us to spend to much based on how a player used to be.

I think Frederic was great last year and liked him a lot but the current version isn’t that guy and I’m hoping he can bounce back.


You don’t buy low at the deadline. You rent guys who are playing well. Buying low is smart in the off season.

Janmark, Brown and Henrique were key roles in the playoffs last year.

 

[CycloneSweep]

so best case 12 games before playoffs, worst case 8.

 

[McBeastMode]

Tough to find out any info about Frederics skating.

Frederic’s not a speed demon. Drafted 29th overall in 2016, his scouting reports—like those from EliteProspects—highlight a “heavy, physical game” over finesse. He’s got decent straight-line speed but lacks the agility or edgework of a top skater—think more bulldozer than figure skater. His 12 goals and seven assists in 58 games this year (before the injury) come from net-front presence, not dazzling rushes.

 

[Oilers88]

Frederic was the leafs nightmare in the playoffs last year.

I like him if even just for that.

I do hope we're not done though.

They could have fit Frederic in at $1.15 when he comes off LTIR by sending down Kapanen. The double retention creates some cap space for us- I can't see them doing that for no reason. I would bet they add a defenceman, the question is how big is the target.

Someone who is better with the cap can correct me if I'm wrong, but It looks like they're $181k over the cap right now and are in LTIR. When Kane and Frederic come back, they would send down 2 players (I'm guessing Savoie and Kapanen), which would put them $1.705 under the cap. If they add a dman they would also presumably send Stecher down, which gives them just under $2.5 in cap space. With retention it seems like they can make a decent sized splash if they are so inclined.

 

[guymez]

Any word on what the injury is? I know teams like to keep that sort of thing under wraps but I hope it wasnt a nasty high ankle sprain.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Janmark, Brown and Henrique were key roles in the playoffs last year.

They did, they also got caved in their match ups.

 

[Bumblebee Man]

You're missing the blind optimism usually found around here any time theres a trade. Its been a recurring injury as well for Frederik this season so not sure if he even plays. For sure theres no certainty one way or the other. Just people picking best possible synopsis by default.

Hmmm. So you think they traded for Frederic without doing an extensive look into his injury or timeline?
I'd say picking the worst possible synopsis is what's actually happening

 

[CycloneSweep]

Any word on what the injury is? I know teams like to keep that sort of thing under wraps but I hope it wasnt a nasty high ankle sprain.

All that was said is he laid a hit against McCabe, messed up and went into the boards and then had his ankle taped up and then into a walking boot.

 

[guymez]

Frederic’s not a speed demon. Drafted 29th overall in 2016, his scouting reports—like those from EliteProspects—highlight a “heavy, physical game” over finesse. He’s got decent straight-line speed but lacks the agility or edgework of a top skater—think more bulldozer than figure skater. His 12 goals and seven assists in 58 games this year (before the injury) come from net-front presence, not dazzling rushes.

If his straight line speed is NHL average or better then I am fine with that.
He can keep up on the rush and then be a major pain in the ass (a player who is very hard to move) in front of the net.
I like it.

 

[MessierThanThou]

The last thing I will say about this.

Is it screams the same issue our pro scouts and management have had for a long time.

They saw a player good once, haven’t paid attention for a while and see the player as the guy they remember, not the one they currently are.

It has effected us getting players who have fallen off a cliff, or it causes us to spend to much based on how a player used to be.

I think Frederic was great last year and liked him a lot but the current version isn’t that guy and I’m hoping he can bounce back.


You don’t buy low at the deadline. You rent guys who are playing well. Buying low is smart in the off season.

Also, past performance was literally the only argument anyone had for keeping Skinner and avoiding a retained Gibson...who I doubt is still available with Anaheim starting to soar.

 

[CycloneSweep]

Hmmm. So you think they traded for Frederic without doing an extensive look into his injury or timeline?
I'd say picking the worst possible synopsis is what's actually happening

This is an org that once signed a player they weren’t allowed to, traded for a young player that no one had watched for a couple years. This org does weird stuff all the time, so, maybe?

 

[Spawn]

Number of forwards on this roster who produce less than Frederic’s 0.26ppg this season:

………

This while receiving more ES toi than anyone in our bottom 6.

But at least he hits!!!1!!!111

 

[Drivesaitl]

Playoffs is the Leafs nightmare every season.

I like him if even just for that.

I do hope we're not done though.

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